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Re: accessible survey platforms

Sarah k Alawami
 

I personally like google. Now that I am familiar with form creation and adding videos to the forms if I want to, yeah I feel more in control and it's very much accessible.

On 25 Mar 2019, at 14:11, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Most seem to be going for Google, but I think Survey Monkey can be. its a a bit of a black art, I'm assuming you want to be able to make them accessibly as well as have us fill them out accessibly. The latter I think means keeping it simple and consistent and not tables all over the place to lose your way in.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 5:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] accessible survey platforms

hi all,

I am in search of an accessible survey platform to conduct my research. I recently discovered that Qualtrics isn't accessible, so does anyone here know of one which is? Specifically, is Ibexfarm or Surveymonkey more usable?

Best,

Enes



Re: playing you tube with NVDA

Andre Fisher
 

Visit this link for the keyboard shortcuts:

https://sites.google.com/a/umich.edu/u-m-google-170816/accessibility/google-keyboard-shortcuts---youtube

playing you tube with NVDA

Kerryn Gunness
 

HI all
are there commands for playing you tube videos using NVDA on windows?
like to pause, fast forward, rewine etc?
thanks

Re: web browsers

Kerryn Gunness
 

go to settings in google chrome
press alt then down arrow to settings and press enter
use down arrow or H to default
then use down arrow again make google chrome default button and press enter
see if this works

----- Original Message -----
From: "AKH AKH" <tvz@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 10:50 AM
Subject: [nvda] web browsers


I find NVDA works so well with Chrome, but I just can't get any links
in E-mails to default to Chrome. I've checked default settings in
Windows 10 and Chrome is the deafault, but the links default to The
Edge. Any ideas, please.


Andrew




Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

Kevin Cussick
 

correct, and just for giggles I tried it and with the one drive icon nothing happens.

On 25/03/2019 22:10, Gene wrote:
I'm extremely skeptical that that will do anything. Mouse tracking isn't what it sounds like. It doesn't cause the mouse to move or not to move when you use NVDA. It reads what is under the mouse as you move the mouse. That's all it does.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Travis Siegel
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray
just turn off mouse tracking, then that should solve your problem.
On 3/23/2019 2:23 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
Hello all,
NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).
To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.
So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as well.
P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.
Thanks much in advance!
______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev
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Re: Windows 10 Fast Start-up

Gene
 

I'm sure Brian will discuss this but I'll give my perspective.  Fast boot doesn't allow the system to reboot when you turn it off.  It's as though you always used hibernate or sleep instead of doing a full shut down or doing a full reboot. 
 
You should only use fast boot if you reboot your machine at intervals.  I'm not sure how long, perhaps a number of days, perhaps a week, you can experiment.  But just as you will get instability if you leave Windows running too long without a full boot or a full reboot, so to will you get instability by using quick boot and only that.  For the purposes we are discussing, it amounts to the same thing.
reboot on a schedule.  Reboot does do a full reboot. 
 
Also, if you install a program and you need to reboot the computer afterwords, don't use shutdown if you use fast boot.  Use the reboot command so you will get a full bootup.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 5:42 PM
To: NVDA
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 100 Fast Start-up

Brian, when I copied and pasted “windows fast start up displays power & sleep settings” into the search box after pressing the Windows key, it said “see web results.” Also, why would I want to uncheck a box that says “fast start-up” if I want a fast start-up. I’m using the latest version of Windows 10, so what am I missing?

 

 

 

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Re: Windows 10 Fast Start-up

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Brian, when I copied and pasted “windows fast start up displays power & sleep settings” into the search box after pressing the Windows key, it said “see web results.” Also, why would I want to uncheck a box that says “fast start-up” if I want a fast start-up. I’m using the latest version of Windows 10, so what am I missing?

 

 

 

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Re: Mouse Navigation

Arlene
 

I’ll just stick to Chrome. Thanks for the heads up

 

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From: Jaffar Sidek
Sent: March 25, 2019 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation

 

Microsoft Chrome coming up.

On 3/25/2019 1:29 PM, Gene wrote:

I don't know if Edge works better on some web pages.  Most people don't use Edge.  The number of people, I mean sighted people, who use it is so small that Microsoft is going to completely remake it, using Chrome code.  I'm not saying not to use it now, I'm saying that unless there are pages you can't use well now, unless you are just curious, there isn't any point since it is going to be redone.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 12:06 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation

 

Greg! Do many blind people use Edge?  I got a new win ten laptop.  I use google Chrome. I haven’t tried it. I’m willing to learn it. But I was told by other blind people not to use it. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Greg Rhodes
Sent: March 24, 2019 1:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mouse Navigation

 

I spend most of my computer time browsing with Microsoft Edge and working on documents and spreadsheets in MS Word and Excel 2016. I’m running the latest version of Windows 10. I need to use a screen reader for almost all of my work these days (magnification is no longer real useful for me).

 

Given my above uses, can someone give me a couple of examples of where mouse navigation (using the numpad) would be used? I’m trying to figure out if there would be any benefit in my learning mouse navigation commands. Thanks. Thanks.

 

Greg

 

 

 

Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

Gene
 

I'm extremely skeptical that that will do anything.  Mouse tracking isn't what it sounds like.  It doesn't cause the mouse to move or not to move when you use NVDA.  It reads what is under the mouse as you move the mouse.  That's all it does. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and icons in the system tray

just turn off mouse tracking, then that should solve your problem.

On 3/23/2019 2:23 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev




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Re: auto run file

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi All

There is a way of autorun from a thumb drive by using the below

Use a U3 smart drive (or similar). These USB drives have a built-in firmware that presents them as CD drive when they are inserted into a computer. These kinds of USB flash drives are not affected by the changes in Windows 7. Autorun will work as it was a CD. U3 smart drives are primarily used to run programs directly from the USB flash drive and are generally not used to install programs. If you only need to run a program locally, and don't need to install, a U3 smart drive can be an option. But if you need to install files or update settings in the operating system (for example in the Registry) a U3 smart drive can not be used. The basic idea of U3 technology is that when the drive is removed from the host computer, there should be no traces left in that computer.

Regards Adrian Pocock

On 22/03/2019 05:32, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Yes. But there are ways, and there are ways.  And as long as you run it on your own computer and put  yourself at risk and not others, then it will still work just as long as you know what you're doing.  Cheers!

On 3/22/2019 11:32 AM, Gene wrote:
Windows doesn't run autorun files automatically any longer from thumb drives as a security measure against malicious code running.  You can run Narrator, run NVDA, then close Narrator.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] auto run file

Hi Keryn.  Here is a sample of an Autorun.inf file.

Copy the below code:

[autorun]
;Open=NVDA.exe
ShellExecute=NVDA.exe
UseAutoPlay=1


Save the autorun.inf file onto the root of your USB drive.

Cheers!


On 3/22/2019 8:36 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi guys
 
is it possible to create an auto run file to place on a flash drive, so that the portable copy of NVDA will launch as soon as the flash drive is placed into the USB port?
if so how can it be done?
 
thanks
 
kerryn

Re: 2019.1 appears to be out

 

And, with myself being number 3 (on this topic) I full well expect that everyone will be offered 2019.1 when they fire up NVDA over the next several days.
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Re: 2019.1 appears to be out

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I just got it.

 

 

 

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:09 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] 2019.1 appears to be out

 

Since It has just downloaded to my machine.

Ahem...

Brian

 

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Re: accessible survey platforms

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Oh you can cock them up if you are not careful, our council do it regularly!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Bushman" <libertyroundtable@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible survey platforms


I don't know about creating the survey's access.
However, I do know that Surveymonkey survey's are easy to use and they speak well with NVDA and other screen readers when taking a survey.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 11:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible survey platforms

hi all,

I am in search of an accessible survey platform to conduct my research.
I recently discovered that Qualtrics isn't accessible, so does anyone here know of one which is? Specifically, is Ibexfarm or Surveymonkey more usable?

Best,

Enes

Re: accessible survey platforms

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Most seem to be going for Google, but I think Survey Monkey can be. its a a bit of a black art, I'm assuming you want to be able to make them accessibly as well as have us fill them out accessibly. The latter I think means keeping it simple and consistent and not tables all over the place to lose your way in.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 5:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] accessible survey platforms


hi all,

I am in search of an accessible survey platform to conduct my research. I recently discovered that Qualtrics isn't accessible, so does anyone here know of one which is? Specifically, is Ibexfarm or Surveymonkey more usable?

Best,

Enes


2019.1 appears to be out

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Since It has just downloaded to my machine.

Ahem...
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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

 

Now, as moderator, I am declaring this topic closed.  It will be locked immediately after this is posted.

If NVAccess were ever to decide to cross platforms that would be something they'd surely announce.  There is no significant market since Talkback on Android and VoiceOver on iOS are both good products under active development and available at no cost to the end user, unlike the situation had been under Windows when NVDA came into existence.  All that matters, a lot.

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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Sarah k Alawami
 



On 25 Mar 2019, at 9:40, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Android already has a screen reader.

Yes, and it's as buggy as ever. Get into a web page with a huge table? Lag and freeze. Ask the sighted perosn to do the same thing? No lag or freezing. Webview with talkback and android really suck big time hence NVDA might one day be a good option. What hapened to user choice if at all possible?

Take care

Re: NVDA and icons in the system tray

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

just turn off mouse tracking, then that should solve your problem.

On 3/23/2019 2:23 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:

Hello all,

NVDA seams to have problems activating some icons in the system tray, for example the one for OneDrive. At first I thought that it was not a NVDA specific issue but a global screen reader / accessibility one, but after testing with Narrator as well, it turns out that at least the problem with OneDrive's system tray icon is specific to NVDA (Narrator is not affected).

To reproduce the issue, I press Windows+B to go to the system tray. I use up/down arrow keys to move the focus to the OneDrive's icon (OneDrive must be running). Then I press the space key to simulate a single left click with the mouse. All those are Windows and not NVDA commands. With Narrator, this works as expected and the pop-up window for OneDrive appears. With NVDA however, nothing happens. A person which cannot see the screen would wonder why it is so - what is different. I have some vision left and can see what's going on. For some reason, when pressing Windows+B and the system focus gets moved to the system tray area, NVDA also moves the mouse cursor there and for some reason, that causes the failure of the execution of the command with the spacebar to simulate a single left mouse click. With Narrator and with no screen reader running, the mouse cursor does not get moved to the system tray when the system focus gets moved there and the command gets executed correctly and the OneDrive pop-up window appears as it should.

So, does anyone (specially the NVDA developers) know why NVDA moves the mouse cursor to the system tray area when the system focus gets moved there? Because apparently this causes problems with some icons in the system tray. And now that I think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if the appearance of the problematic so called "Network Flyout" pop-up window under Windows 7 is caused by this behavior as well.

P.S.: I'm not asking for help/assistance with workarounds to activate such "problematic" icons in the system tray - I know how to handle them, including with the "SysTrayList" add-on for NVDA. This is not the purpose of this message. I'm asking why NVDA is causing the explained above behavior of the mouse when pressing Windows+B.

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev




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Re: checkboxes in word forms

 

Enes,

            Is the form protected from editing?  (That is, set to "fill in forms" mode).  If it is you should get "checkbox unchecked" when you land on a checkbox and space or enter will typically work.

            Many people forget to put editing restrictions on after creating a form, and they won't work correctly as fillable forms unless that has been done.

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checkboxes in word forms

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi all,

Anyone have any ideas on how to check checkboxes in forms in word? NVDA+enter, enter, space, mouse click nothing works.