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Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Gene
 

If she didn't change it in the new version, object navigation should be on by default.  But if she changed it and didn't change it back, screen review will remain on and will cause problems. 
In her old 2013 version, object navigation and screen review weren't implemented in the same way and object review would automatically be reverted to if you move out of the window you had screen review on in.  But that isn't what happens now.
 
Gene

From: J.G
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Hello,

thanks for help. first of all, I must have updated it due to incompatibility between nvda report addon and nvda screen reader, because, she has got very, very old version of nvda. She told me, it was 2013.x.
I will try both your suggestions even I thought that object navigation is automatically activated. Also I will try to search for possible updates of office. Is there any setting in outlook which should be also changed for better performance?

again, thanks for all your help.

regards, Jožef


Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Sam Bushman
 

Yes you can, however, when you press k to go from link to link it just gets
stuck on graphic and can't find the link you want - you need to press k then
down arrow then k and down arrow and - ... etc. If you try to press read all
then stop it to find a link then you just get blank line after blank line.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

can you not use the normal web shortcuts in browse mode if you display it in
html?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Bushman" <libertyroundtable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


When you use read to end - then want to get a link to click on - how do
you
find the link - highlight it and then click on it.

You press esc or another key to stop the read to end - then you need to
arrow around to find the link to click on. I just get blank over and over.
Any other suggestions?





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 7:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016



Why are you down arrowing through the message? Do you have to do so for
some reason? If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman <mailto:libertyroundtable@...>

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016



Hi All,



I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you
can
download and install from office 365.



1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is
there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA.
I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does
this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the
message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't
crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam









Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

can you not use the normal web shortcuts in browse mode if you display it in html?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Bushman" <libertyroundtable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


When you use read to end - then want to get a link to click on - how do you
find the link - highlight it and then click on it.

You press esc or another key to stop the read to end - then you need to
arrow around to find the link to click on. I just get blank over and over.
Any other suggestions?





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 7:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016



Why are you down arrowing through the message? Do you have to do so for
some reason? If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman <mailto:libertyroundtable@...>

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016



Hi All,



I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you can
download and install from office 365.



1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is
there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA.
I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does
this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the
message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam








Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If you want to locate bits to cut and paste as I do all the time for scripts for readers the blank line can become just a little annoying!
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Why are you down arrowing through the message? Do you have to do so for some reason? If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Hi All,



I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.



1.. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
2.. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't crash.
Thanks so much for any input.

Sam


Re: playing music on this new laptop

Gene
 

Are the speakers USB speakers?  What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again? 
 
While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the

Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the  other speaker.  Only the right speaker plays the music.  He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker.  Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers.  This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

Gene
 

I don't think that is the problem.  The message said keys are announced in Notepad.  I think that keys will be announced, but with a pause after a key is pressed.  Try pressing a key, then wait to see what happens.  Wait a number of seconds, perhaps four or five.  If the keys are announced after a pause, my question is, what synthesizer are you using?  I see from your signature that you are using Mail for Windows 10.  We'll see if others have this problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

Try holding the nvda key and press 2 on the number row of keys. It should say speak typed characters on and then you're good to go.
Roger










On 5/1/2019 12:54 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon list; have a minor problem when I type a message nvda does not speak the keys to me as I type.  For example, in notepad, the keys speak like they should.  If there is something I can do to get the keys to speak, please let me know; running latest nvda and windows ten 1809; thanks

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

Gene
 

That's good.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 12:40 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Combo Boxes, Agreement, Addressed

Hello,

I want to thank you for your help with my issue of combo boxes and
such at the Barnes and Noble website. Gene, your instructions were
clear and understandable. Thanks!

--
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Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

J.G
 

Hello,

thanks for help. first of all, I must have updated it due to incompatibility between nvda report addon and nvda screen reader, because, she has got very, very old version of nvda. She told me, it was 2013.x.
I will try both your suggestions even I thought that object navigation is automatically activated. Also I will try to search for possible updates of office. Is there any setting in outlook which should be also changed for better performance?

again, thanks for all your help.

regards, Jožef


Re: Python ide

farhan israk
 

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Subject: [nvda] Python ide

Which python ide is most accessible and how to setup it?


Re: nvda said speak characters on/off

Dan Beaver
 

Sorry, I haven't been following this thread but have you turned on the character echo feature?  If not this might help.


If you already tried this I am sorry for suggesting it again.


Dan Beaver

On 5/1/2019 2:40 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

Like in the subject, nvda plus 2 said speak characters on or off.  This made no difference.  For some reason in notepad, the keys speak like they are supposed to.  Since I like the keys to speak, for now I am using nvda’s rival and the keys do speak; like to clear up the issue with nvda, though.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

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nvda said speak characters on/off

marvin kotler
 

Like in the subject, nvda plus 2 said speak characters on or off.  This made no difference.  For some reason in notepad, the keys speak like they are supposed to.  Since I like the keys to speak, for now I am using nvda’s rival and the keys do speak; like to clear up the issue with nvda, though.

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

Chris Mullins
 

What did NVDA announce when you pressed NVDA + 2 on the number row?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: 1 May 2019 19:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] tried that, no luck

 

I tried that, the keys still do not speak; thanks for the suggestion; anything else?

marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: playing music on this new laptop

Arlene
 

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the

Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the  other speaker.  Only the right speaker plays the music.  He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker.  Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers.  This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

Sam Bushman
 

What app are you in when writing the message?

Have you tried to press nvda-space bar to turn either on or off browse mode?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

 

Good afternoon list; have a minor problem when I type a message nvda does not speak the keys to me as I type.  For example, in notepad, the keys speak like they should.  If there is something I can do to get the keys to speak, please let me know; running latest nvda and windows ten 1809; thanks

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

Sarah k Alawami
 

Are you saying they do not speakin yoru email program? Can you check to see if you have a profile for the mail app that does not echo your key strokes?

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On 1 May 2019, at 10:54, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon list; have a minor problem when I type a message nvda does not speak the keys to me as I type.  For example, in notepad, the keys speak like they should.  If there is something I can do to get the keys to speak, please let me know; running latest nvda and windows ten 1809; thanks

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


playing music on this new laptop

Arlene
 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

marvin kotler
 

I tried that, the keys still do not speak; thanks for the suggestion; anything else?

marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

Roger Stewart
 

Try holding the nvda key and press 2 on the number row of keys. It should say speak typed characters on and then you're good to go.
Roger










On 5/1/2019 12:54 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

Good afternoon list; have a minor problem when I type a message nvda does not speak the keys to me as I type.  For example, in notepad, the keys speak like they should.  If there is something I can do to get the keys to speak, please let me know; running latest nvda and windows ten 1809; thanks

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list; have a minor problem when I type a message nvda does not speak the keys to me as I type.  For example, in notepad, the keys speak like they should.  If there is something I can do to get the keys to speak, please let me know; running latest nvda and windows ten 1809; thanks

Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

David Russell
 

Hello,

I want to thank you for your help with my issue of combo boxes and
such at the Barnes and Noble website. Gene, your instructions were
clear and understandable. Thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...