Andy, relative positioning would definitely be useful at times, but, it would be better as an option you could toggle on and off?

Hi,

I am requesting the community’s feedback on a feature for Developer toolkit. Before proceeding with the new feature’s description, I must provide a sample problem a user might encounter while using DTK. Imagine you are a user of DTK. You wish to make a dialog in the top-right corner of your display with a button centered in the dialog. The dialog is to have the dimensions of 100px wide and 100px high. The button is to have the dimensions of 75px wide and 25px high. You know the display resolution is 1920px wide and 1080px high.

You confidently code up the dialog to sit in the top-right corner of the display. To verify, you launch the dialog, turn on DTK, navigate to the dialog, then obtain its size and location. After checking the size and location, you are happy with its placement: (left, top, right, bottom): 1820, 0, 1920, 100 [100px wide and 100px high]. You proceed to place a button in the dialog. To verify the button’s size and location, you launch the dialog, put focus on the button, turn on DTK features, and obtain the button’s size and location. To your horror, the location is (left, top, right, bottom): 1820, 0, 1904, 25) [75px wide and 25px high]. It is a reasonable guess that the button is in the top-left corner of the dialog. However, you might have to perform some math to figure it out. Now, imagine what this would look like with a fairly complex design or layout… Messy at best! The problem is that all object locations are reported relative to the entire display. This method is useful for gross layouts such as setting up foreground window placement, or header, footer, multicolumn website layouts. Even the web layouts provide their own issues. Wait though, there is a solution to the problem!

The proposed feature I would like comments on is the ability for DTK to provide location information relative to the focused object’s parent. In the example given, you could ask DTK to give you the locations of the left, top, right, and bottom edges based on the distance between the focused object and its parent’s edges. For instance, DTK would report the button location as (left, top, right, bottom): 0, 0, 75, 25. You could still obtain locations based on the entire display’s size though. Implementing this isn’t difficult, but I need feature requests and implementation ideas from a user’s point of view. How would you see this feature implemented?

 

 

 

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Hi.

I'm using NVDA latest version with firefox latest on windows 10. Press enter on your share. After the shares list on mine, NVDA says blank twice before the next item. the first blank is the delete share option, the second is edit.

cheers,

Mo.

On 29/07/2019 03:55, John Isige wrote:

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.

Hi,

I am requesting the community’s feedback on a feature for Developer toolkit. Before proceeding with the new feature’s description, I must provide a sample problem a user might encounter while using DTK. Imagine you are a user of DTK. You wish to make a dialog in the top-right corner of your display with a button centered in the dialog. The dialog is to have the dimensions of 100px wide and 100px high. The button is to have the dimensions of 75px wide and 25px high. You know the display resolution is 1920px wide and 1080px high.

You confidently code up the dialog to sit in the top-right corner of the display. To verify, you launch the dialog, turn on DTK, navigate to the dialog, then obtain its size and location. After checking the size and location, you are happy with its placement: (left, top, right, bottom): 1820, 0, 1920, 100 [100px wide and 100px high]. You proceed to place a button in the dialog. To verify the button’s size and location, you launch the dialog, put focus on the button, turn on DTK features, and obtain the button’s size and location. To your horror, the location is (left, top, right, bottom): 1820, 0, 1904, 25) [75px wide and 25px high]. It is a reasonable guess that the button is in the top-left corner of the dialog. However, you might have to perform some math to figure it out. Now, imagine what this would look like with a fairly complex design or layout… Messy at best! The problem is that all object locations are reported relative to the entire display. This method is useful for gross layouts such as setting up foreground window placement, or header, footer, multicolumn website layouts. Even the web layouts provide their own issues. Wait though, there is a solution to the problem!

The proposed feature I would like comments on is the ability for DTK to provide location information relative to the focused object’s parent. In the example given, you could ask DTK to give you the locations of the left, top, right, and bottom edges based on the distance between the focused object and its parent’s edges. For instance, DTK would report the button location as (left, top, right, bottom): 0, 0, 75, 25. You could still obtain locations based on the entire display’s size though. Implementing this isn’t difficult, but I need feature requests and implementation ideas from a user’s point of view. How would you see this feature implemented?

 

 

 

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The only add-ons I usually use are braille extender and the Windows 10
essential ones, and the add-on updater, but it looks like all of those
are either being updated, or already work fine with the new Python 3,
but I'd be happy to help with this if I can.

The only add-ons I usually use are braille extender and the Windows 10 essential ones, and the add-on updater, but it looks like all of those are either being updated, or already work fine with the new Python 3, but I'd be happy to help with this if I can.

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.

Hi,

I’ve heard good things about sonology.

The thing that’s turning me off any of these NAS devices is the fact that software can change at a moments notice with a firmware update, as happened with netgear, and said firmware downgrade may be impossible. I’d rather get a refurbished computer (after all, all these NAS’s are is a computer), get one of those mediasonic proraid drive enclosures and install one of the pre-existing NAS programs for either Windows or Linux – this way you’re in complete control of what you get and when you get it. Of course, it all depends on what you do, but initial setup for most things really doesn’t sound difficult.

 

Just my opinion, however. After I was unable to downgrade the firmware of a netgear NAS for a friend, that turned me off of them quite a lot. Of course your mileage may vary, and certain companies may be better than others.

 

Best of luck!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: July 28, 2019 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

 

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: July 28, 2019 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.

While I don't know anything about that particular gear--I have always
built my own NASes using Linux--I will say that I would have
misgivings about buying a piece of 2013 computing equipment of any kind.

If it is not still receiving security patches, I would definitely not
buy it. See the conversations here recently about Windows XP. Embedded
systems are often even worse than old operating systems, when it comes
to security and patching security holes.

So if that thing has an ARM, Intel, or AMD processor (or one of
several others), for example, and it hasn't received 2018 software
updates, it's vulnerable to several processor level hacks that can
allow someone to read anything in its memory. That aside, depending on
what software it's running, it could even become part of a botnet,
like most Windows XP systems are.

So be very careful with buying old equipment like this. If it's not
still getting software updates, stay far away from it, or only use it
in a situation where it never touches the internet.

Some links:

read the comment by archagon, and some others:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8128521

And perhaps: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=2&;t=1247263
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/9qzooz/hacked_2_factor_authentication_doesnt_prevent/


Luke