Well the last was from enablerehab saying pay what you want, they need to send at least 50 cents to phonics because of their licences.

Now saying that that was for sapi.

As for the old dectalk, I usually wouldn't but it sounds like no one really cares that much.

Obviously if someone sold the entire load they probably would make something about it but its almost like, its to old for us to give a damn about as such.
To be honest the sapi dectalk wasn't perfect with volume dropouts on some voices I don't even use it anymore.

However if someone were to well distribute it, as long as no one brought it or payed cash, I don't think people would care that much.

Of course my communications with the deal were ages ago maybe if to many wanted it who knows.

Dectalk like eloquence are not really where we should be going as it is though.

Now don't get me wrong, they had their day, and their place.

In their day they were the best of the best.

I mean hawking used the thing.

Here's the thing.

I tried a 16 bit version of eloquence on my phone and it was total crap!

Theory is it was never designed to be upsampled.

Next eloquence and dectalk are utter crap.

Its not their fault.

I mean how much can you get out of a simple speaker with a few hardware chips without the voice quality and size we have now?

I mean they like the old keynotes were the king of the castle and were there for a number of years.

And as an old timer I respect the past.

I still use it on my old phone.

However their time may be about done.

I also wish we could get some confirmation about decTalk since it, too, is, or was, very popular. There is nothing wrong with the 24-year-old decTalk access32 dll files. they work fine aside from some bugs in the nvda-addon code, they work just fine with NVDA. I wish that we could 1. get official confirmation that is it abandonware, or is it not abandonware and can we use the 24-year-old decTalk access32 dll which is still perfectly fine with NVDA? 2. if somebody would give us permission to use that dll, which by the way again works perfectly fine, then once we have permission, we could incorporate it into NVDA as an alternative to ESpeak for english and maybe some other languages, same goes for willowPond softVoice tts, by the way... so anyway once we get confirmation, they could be incorporated into NVDA so people have some alternative voices. and also perhaps the voices could be given sapi5 interfaces for those who wish to use them in that form. oh better yet, if NVDA could sell decTalk nvda-addon and softVoice tts addon, decTalk sapi5 with a good non-buggy interface and softVoice tts sapi5 again with a good stable interface. I personally would gladly pay $10 to $20 or so for updated versions of those two tts engines. better yet would be if the authors just said well just go ahead and incorporate them into NVDA as voices or as voices on the extra-voices download website. 
Josh

On Jul 19, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Christopher Gray <chris@moblind.org> wrote:

Hello:

I have tried multiple times to get an answer out of Tech Support with no luck.
So, maybe somebody here knows the definitive answer. These are products both
purchased in midJune from the nvaccess website but for whatever reason I have
never received information about how to retrieve them.

I paid $46.26 for the MS Outlook Training for NVDA (eBook) (AUD $30)

Receipt #5222469298897420

I paid $53.37 for Basic Training for NVDA (Downloadable Audio) (AUD $45)

Receipt #1265475612516056

These purchases were made on June 19, and Tech Support verifies they were made.
For some reason though, they do not provide me information on how to get the
materials.

I hope somebody here knows how to do this.

Thank you.

Chris

Yes, this Dell has all of those as well. If I'd known that I'd have kept my doubletalk LT around when I moved.

I also wish we could get some confirmation about decTalk since it, too, is, or was, very popular. There is nothing wrong with the 24-year-old decTalk access32 dll files. they work fine aside from some bugs in the nvda-addon code, they work just fine with NVDA. I wish that we could 1. get official confirmation that is it abandonware, or is it not abandonware and can we use the 24-year-old decTalk access32 dll which is still perfectly fine with NVDA? 2. if somebody would give us permission to use that dll, which by the way again works perfectly fine, then once we have permission, we could incorporate it into NVDA as an alternative to ESpeak for english and maybe some other languages, same goes for willowPond softVoice tts, by the way... so anyway once we get confirmation, they could be incorporated into NVDA so people have some alternative voices. and also perhaps the voices could be given sapi5 interfaces for those who wish to use them in that form. oh better yet, if NVDA could sell decTalk nvda-addon and softVoice tts addon, decTalk sapi5 with a good non-buggy interface and softVoice tts sapi5 again with a good stable interface. I personally would gladly pay $10 to $20 or so for updated versions of those two tts engines. better yet would be if the authors just said well just go ahead and incorporate them into NVDA as voices or as voices on the extra-voices download website. 
Josh

Hi folks

Anyone no of a good accessible client for pandora?

I looked through the list of commands but I could not find anything for Station playlist creator that would help when I need to propagate my playlist. I know how to push information to the playlist but I don’t know how much time is being used after every push.

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Hi,

There are two SPL keys – SPL Assistant and SPL Controller. One would go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures, locate StationPlaylist category, and assign commands from there.

The user guide for this add-on can be found here:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/wiki/spladdonguide

Please have the new broadcast subscribe to NVDA SPL list located at:

https://nvda-spl.groups.io/g/nvda-spl

Cheers,

Joseph

How do I assign a certain key to be the SPL key?

Also, is there more documentation than what is presented in the  Addon help?

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

There are two SPL keys – SPL Assistant and SPL Controller. One would go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures, locate StationPlaylist category, and assign commands from there.

The user guide for this add-on can be found here:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/wiki/spladdonguide

Please have the new broadcast subscribe to NVDA SPL list located at:

https://nvda-spl.groups.io/g/nvda-spl

Cheers,

Joseph

How do I assign a certain key to be the SPL key?

Also, is there more documentation than what is presented in the  Addon help?

Thanks in advance.

Hi.

Over on win10, there was a discussion I think on the elequence
codefactory addon I think and issues with it.

A user suggested we all use the speech player addon.

Here is the thing though, how old is it, does it even work with espeak
ng, and will it work with the new py3 and threshhold.

If not we have a problem, that synth was to my mind only a concept.

And now, its just a bunch of outdated crap.

Seriously, as I said in that thread we need our own synth.

And either we chuck out the old crappy synth like speech player or we
actually try to continue where we started from.

I am not the authors of this but I'd have thought that if I were them I
would have made a decision before now as this was all done years and
years ago at least it looks like this.

I know this will come as a bit harsh, but it seems people just say we
have this older synth about that we made.

To be honest if we are serious in using our own synth, a serious
descussion needs to be had on restarting development on it or making
another synth or something.

I really think something needs to be done else we will continue to have
this conversation round and round and round.

Is it at all possible we could actually start talking about this in
general please.

I'd like questions to be answered, like why did we stop, and why don't
we start again.

I think there were valid reasons but well.

Next what synths in addon form will work wityh the newer addon schemes
in nvda and the future.

Its obvious that we may need our own synth, but should we have one or not.

Is it worth restarting our own or designing our own and what would we use.

Now I am happy with espeak but if we had our own synth and sold a sapi
version or something and maybe the addon version or something for low
cost say 5-10 vbucks I'd get it, maybe up to 30 bucks for higher quality
things, maybe as much as 60 bucks for really good packs of things.

I just think with all the new technology and prices dropping down lower
and lower that we really should hav a good look is all.

For Firefox users (like myself): having Firefox push notifications to Windows seems to be supported, according to this website that does some advertising of this feature for a version of Firefox that has been released for 6 months, if I'm not mistaken: https://www.ghacks.net/2018/10/08/firefox-gets-native-windows-10-notifications-support/ .

Vincent

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 09:58 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Actually, Windows+(Shift+)V for toast notifications, and Windows+A for Action Center (I get this sometimes while using Slack, so this is nothing new).

And, as a recent topic brought to the fore, if one is using Chrome it's possible to have the browser push those push messages straight over to Windows to be presented as toast notifications, or not.

So one has to know what browser is being used and whether certain features have been configured in certain ways to know for certain how one might directly interact with a push message.

This stuff is getting much more wildly complicated, configuration wise and interaction wise, as new options regarding "who does what, or who passes what to whom" are being created.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 09:58 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Actually, Windows+(Shift+)V for toast notifications, and Windows+A for Action Center (I get this sometimes while using Slack, so this is nothing new).

And, as a recent topic brought to the fore, if one is using Chrome it's possible to have the browser push those push messages straight over to Windows to be presented as toast notifications, or not.

So one has to know what browser is being used and whether certain features have been configured in certain ways to know for certain how one might directly interact with a push message.

This stuff is getting much more wildly complicated, configuration wise and interaction wise, as new options regarding "who does what, or who passes what to whom" are being created.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide