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Add-on updater 19.07.3 will enable toast notifications on Windows 10 by default
#addonrelease
Hi all,
Add-on Updater 19.07.3 is on its way. The only difference between 19.07.2 and 19.07.3 concerns toast notifications on Windows 10 – it will now be enabled by default for all Windows 10 users. Note that this is still an experimental feature, and if things go well, it’ll become a permanent feature in version 19.08.
Cheers, Joseph
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Re: SPL Addon Questions
Howard Traxler <howard@...>
Thank you Sarah. It's a very delicate balance here: Someone puts out some initials without explanation and I have to decide, do I care to take time to go look it up; or maybe I'd be missing something important if I don't. So, sometimes, I just ask the list.
Anyways, thank you for the answer.
Howard
On 7/20/2019 9:34 AM, Sarah k Alawami
wrote:
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Re: SPL Addon Questions
Station playlist studio. Google for that, and you should find the answer. I used to use that set of materials but quit when I used the mac. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well. Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 20 Jul 2019, at 6:55, Howard Traxler wrote:
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Re: SPL Addon Questions
Howard Traxler <howard@...>
what is SPL?
On 7/20/2019 12:06 AM, Joseph Lee
wrote:
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Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA
Josh Kennedy
I think I will pay the extra money for the sapi5 vocalizer. That way I can use it with my favorite audio-games, and with narrator if needed. As for eloquence, I think it will be around for a good many years to come, just because of how popular it still is. Aside from phoning home every 30 days, the sapi5 eloquence works fine.
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NVDA addon: Developer toolkit 2019.1.2 now available!
Andy B.
Official release announcement • Release announcement: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/tag/2019.1.2 • Direct download: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/download/2019.1.2/developerToolkit-2019.1.2.nvda-addon • Repository: http://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit • Mailing list: http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit
Direct all feature requests and bug reports to the mailing list noted at the top of this announcement.
Developer toolkit (DTK) is an NVDA add-on that assists blind and visually impaired developers to independently create visually appealing user interfaces or web content. This is done by enabling DTK, navigating around the user interface or web content, then performing gestures to obtain information about the appearance, location, and size of the focused control. To enable or disable DTK, press alt+windows+k on your keyboard. To continue using the computer normally, disable DTK before performing normal tasks. What's new? • DTK will now report size and position values if they are 0. • Navigation now honors the detailed messages setting. • Made reporting of size/position information more concise. • Stability improvements. Gestures The following gestures are available when DTK is enabled. • Alt+windows+k – Enable or disable DTK features. • Left arrow – Move to previous sibling. • Right arrow – Move to next sibling. • Up arrow – Move to parent. • Down arrow – Move to first child. • Control+home – Move to top-most parent. • A – In web content, speak HTML attributes. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • B – Speak the position of the object’s bottom edge. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • C – Speak the number of children contained inside the object. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • Control+d – Enable or disable detailed messages. • F – In web content, speaks the object’s font and formatting information. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • H – Speak the object’s height. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • L – Speak the position of the object’s left edge. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • R – Speak the position of the object’s right edge. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • S – Speak the number of siblings relative to the object. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • T – Speak the position of the object’s top edge. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • V – Speak Developer toolkit version. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. • W – Speak the object’s width. Press twice quickly to copy to the clipboard. Notes • DTK helps developers create user interfaces. This add-on is not an analytical tool for third-party user interfaces. • When using Chrome, not all web elements will appear in the accessibility tree. To force an element to appear in the accessibility tree, give it a title attribute. • When using Firefox, phantom elements may appear in the accessibility tree. For example, a text frame may appear as a text block’s container. These phantom elements are a part of Mozilla’s implementation of the accessibility tree. • Edge has not been completely tested. Therefore, anything reported by the add-on should be considered with care. • In web content, everything except a text block is a container. For instance, a paragraph (p tag) may have multiple elements inside. • div tags are reported as a section in HTML5. • To avoid names of web elements appearing as "None", always give elements a title attribute. • Font information is only available in web content. This should be fixed in a future version. • The add-on does not teach a user proper user interface/web content design concepts. Known issues • Users are not automatically notified of the enabled/disabled state of the add-on's features when switching between windows. • The margins of a control are only available in web content, and are browser dependent. • The border and padding attributes are not available. This is a long-standing issue. • There is no way to restrict DTK to a specific content type or application window. • The font information when pressing F is messy, and will get fixed in a future version.
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Re: SPL Addon Questions
Hi, I already have a demo of almost all parts of SPL suite, including Creator. In fact, I wrote Creator support (at least major portions of it last year) by using a demo copy. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 9:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Addon Questions
I will contact SPL to see if there is a trial copy of creator that you can get.
If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Hi, I need a way to reproduce this and find out what NVDA needs to say. Currently I have suspended major developments on SPL add-on and others until NvDA is fully powered by Python 3 (more info coming soon). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I looked through the list of commands but I could not find anything for Station playlist creator that would help when I need to propagate my playlist. I know how to push information to the playlist but I don’t know how much time is being used after every push.
If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Hi, There are two SPL keys – SPL Assistant and SPL Controller. One would go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures, locate StationPlaylist category, and assign commands from there. The user guide for this add-on can be found here: https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/wiki/spladdonguide Please have the new broadcast subscribe to NVDA SPL list located at: https://nvda-spl.groups.io/g/nvda-spl Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter
How do I assign a certain key to be the SPL key?
Also, is there more documentation than what is presented in the Addon help?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: SPL Addon Questions
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I will contact SPL to see if there is a trial copy of creator that you can get.
If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 1:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SPL Addon Questions
Hi, I need a way to reproduce this and find out what NVDA needs to say. Currently I have suspended major developments on SPL add-on and others until NvDA is fully powered by Python 3 (more info coming soon). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
I looked through the list of commands but I could not find anything for Station playlist creator that would help when I need to propagate my playlist. I know how to push information to the playlist but I don’t know how much time is being used after every push.
If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything! Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Hi, There are two SPL keys – SPL Assistant and SPL Controller. One would go to NVDA menu/Preferences/Input Gestures, locate StationPlaylist category, and assign commands from there. The user guide for this add-on can be found here: https://github.com/josephsl/stationplaylist/wiki/spladdonguide Please have the new broadcast subscribe to NVDA SPL list located at: https://nvda-spl.groups.io/g/nvda-spl Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Kerstetter
How do I assign a certain key to be the SPL key?
Also, is there more documentation than what is presented in the Addon help?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Push Notifications With NVDA
Brian and Vincent,
First of all, sorry for post to this
topic again but this will be the last time. I'll be posting to the
Chat Subgroup but before that, I just want to clear a few things
up:
Vincent wrote: It's possible Facebook just pushes notifications to a different system without much accessibility support besides reading. I guess you already checked the system tray (Windows + B)?Yes, I did, so I'd agree with you. Probably it's not accessible but I'll be more than happy to be wrong on this at the end :) Brian wrote: if one is using Chrome it's possible to have the browser push those push messages straight over to Windows to be presented as toast notifications, or not.Well, I'm using Firefox, as I said on my first message, and apparently my version of Firefox doesn't allow these notifications to be presented as toast ones. I mean, is it possible that a toast notification doesn't show up in the Notifications Center? Because so far, every notification I got, I was able eiter to see it by pressing Win+Shift+V or if I wasn't fast enough to do it I could see the notification on the Center. So weren't they toast notifications? I'm confused. Finally, I read the article on gHacks telling about these notifications (thanks, Vincent). Probably, the problem lies on my Firefox then. Because I was supposed to see it on the list of apps that can or cannot send notifications and it's not there as an option to check. Well, with all of this said, I'm moving it to the Chat Subgroup. I hope you guys will follow me and help me with it, as this is a cool feature and I really didn't want to miss it out. Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Quentin Christensen
Hi Chris, As well as the PayPal receipt, you should have received an automatic email from us with the download links. Once you log into your account, you should be able to go to downloads (note that's downloads in your account, not the download page for NVDA itself). That page is https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/downloads/ and from there you should be able to download everything you have purchased. Do let me know if you have any problems. Kind regards Quentin
On Sat., 20 Jul. 2019, 07:24 Luke Davis, <luke@...> wrote: Likely it would have come from nvaccess.org.
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Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA
For 60 us you can use the expressive ones from code factory, its all done in a program off the cloud, and its a nice package. Its not the same as older vocalisers but its good enough.
On 20/07/2019 8:24 AM, molly the blind
tech lover wrote:
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Re: Alpine and Pico
Jason White
On 7/19/19 2:06 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
Hi Luke:An alternative would be to run them under Windows Subsystem for Linux in Windows 10. They're terminal-based Linux programs that should be able to run in that environment quite effectively with NVDA. It's a long time since I've used Pine/Alpine. I started using Emacs mail software, and Mutt, instead. I still use Mutt when I'm in a Linux console or ssh session and wish to check mail.
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Luke Davis
Likely it would have come from nvaccess.org.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Or might have NV Access (with a space) in it. Perhaps try searching for those. Luke
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Christopher Gray wrote:
Yes, I have reviewed my junk email folder. I found nothing related to my
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Christopher Gray
Yes, I have reviewed my junk email folder. I found nothing related to my
purchases assuming this might come from something with NVDA in the name or contain the word downoad. One note from nvda.support did go into my junk email which is helpful. Odd, because all other emails came to my inbox. Chris On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Luke Davis via Groups.Io wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Christopher Gray wrote:****************************************There's no link on the receipt and I veceived no email about theHave you looked through your spam/junk folder? That may be your local Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Well, if you can't find these materials for download in your NVDA Account, I cannot imagine that NVAccess support will not help you out with this if you can provide (and clearly you can) proof of purchase.
If you must get in touch again I'd try info@... as my first point of contact, as this really isn't a technical support issue in the conventional sense. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Luke Davis
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Christopher Gray wrote:
There's no link on the receipt and I veceived no email about the purchasesHave you looked through your spam/junk folder? That may be your local spam/junk folder, or the IMAP version provided by your mail provider (outlook.com, in your case, which may be Exchange based, not sure). Luke
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Christopher Gray
To clarify just a bit further, I did receive a Paypal receipt. Having just
reviewed it with a fine toothed comb, I can say for certain it contains no link to a downloadable product that I can find. Chris On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Christopher Gray via Groups.Io wrote: There's no link on the receipt and I veceived no email about the purchases**************************************** Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Christopher Gray
There's no link on the receipt and I veceived no email about the purchases
being made for some reason. NV tech support shows though that the purchases were made. It's just a matter of finding them. I do have an NVDA account but unfortunately have to reset the password since I haven't used it for months. Just waiting for the email with the reset link. Chris On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, Brian Vogel via Groups.Io wrote: Are you saying that there is no link provided in the receipts themselves or under separate cover in a distinct e-mail message after payment was received?**************************************** Have you considered Annual Giving or including a gift to Missouri Council of the Blind in your Will or Estate Plan? Contact me as shown below and I can help you with this. ---------------------------------------- Christopher Gray, Executive Director Missouri Council of the Blind 5453 Chippewa St. Louis, MO 63109 Phone: (314) 832-7172 Toll-free: (800) 342-5632 Fax: (314) 832-7796 Like Jazz? Want to know more about jazz? Tune into "A Journey into Jazz" with the Jazz Guys on the Global Voice, Chris and Don. Listen live each Wednesday at 00:00 Utc, 7:00 P.M. Eastern, 4:00 P.M. Pacific Find us by going to theglobalvoice.info/broadband.pls. Can't listen live? go to theglobalvoice.info and choose the "Listen to Past Shows" link any time during the week after each live broadcast. You can also go to the link www.jazzguys.libsyn.com for the podcasts! Or, subscribe to us through iTunes or TuneIn Radio.
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Re: Problem Retrieving Ordered Material
Are you saying that there is no link provided in the receipts themselves or under separate cover in a distinct e-mail message after payment was received?
That's the most common way to provide purchasers of downloadable material, whether books, programs, or audio, a way to get it after payment has been received. Most often the URL has some ungodly long key associated with it, unless you end up having to enter your receipt number, or something similar, to make the download commence. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Re: Code Factory add-in for NVDA
molly the blind tech lover
Hi ☺ I once had eloquence on my Android phone too. However it did not work very well and it cost $20. But the vocalizer voices are all right. Sadly I don’t have them on my Windows devices anymore.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 3:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory add-in for NVDA
Well the last was from enablerehab saying pay what you want, they need to send at least 50 cents to phonics because of their licences. Now saying that that was for sapi. As for the old dectalk, I usually wouldn't but it sounds like no one really cares that much. Obviously if someone sold the entire load they probably would make something about it but its almost like, its to old for us to give a damn about as such. However if someone were to well distribute it, as long as no one brought it or payed cash, I don't think people would care that much. Of course my communications with the deal were ages ago maybe if to many wanted it who knows. Dectalk like eloquence are not really where we should be going as it is though. Now don't get me wrong, they had their day, and their place. In their day they were the best of the best. I mean hawking used the thing. Here's the thing. I tried a 16 bit version of eloquence on my phone and it was total crap! Theory is it was never designed to be upsampled. Next eloquence and dectalk are utter crap. Its not their fault. I mean how much can you get out of a simple speaker with a few hardware chips without the voice quality and size we have now? I mean they like the old keynotes were the king of the castle and were there for a number of years. And as an old timer I respect the past. I still use it on my old phone. However their time may be about done.
On 20/07/2019 12:10 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
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