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Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

 

It will work.

One thing to note, if you have this on in office 2013 or higher certainly 2016 its going to interfeer with file associations which I found the hard way.

Uninstall that before installing office.



On 10/06/2021 2:54 am, Gene wrote:
And I see that you are assuming the converter pack won’t work just because it is old.  I think it likely will work.  there is nothing lost by trying it.  I don’t think the JARTE developers would have continued to refer users to a utility that no longer works. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: the new voices for nvda

Luke Davis
 

Sarah k Alawami wrote:

That won’t work, the  loud environment is in my headphones. Lol! Let’s  say mostly trains and planes. And most voices even when cranked are way way way too
soft. Espeak is not, mostly.
Are you aware of the system volume mixer (sndvol.exe), in which you can:

1. Turn NVDA way way up.
2. Turn your other application further down.
3. Turn your system volume up so that your simulator is at proper level.

At that point, the voice should be easy to hear.

Luke


Re: TeamMate Audit Software

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

What is TeamMate Audit, anyway? DIdn't heard about that program.

Anthony Monteith via groups.io wrote:

Good day ,

Is TeamMate Audit software accessible with NVDA?


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, sayAll do not work in LibreOffice or OpenOffice...

It is only of the problems of the compatibility between those office suites and NVDA...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:18 de 09/06/2021, Brian Vogel escreveu:

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:45 AM, Jackie wrote:
For example, the 'say all' function doesn't
actually work, [in Libre Office]
-
That actually shocks me.  I have not seen anyone make that assertion in the past, and there have been a lot of LO users passing through here, the Win10 for Screen Reader Users, and JAWS groups.

To me, that's an absolute essential, regardless of what you're using.  It's got to be able to be read through.

But I stand behind my general assertion that using unsupported or "twilight state" software doesn't make sense.  Even if there are issues with LO, as but one example, most organizations have a commitment to accessibility these days (and the makers of LO definitely do) so reports of issues are likely to be addressed and fixes forthcoming.  That's never happening with Jarte, or any other "twilight state" or unsupported software.  You just keep having to do more and more contortions as time goes by to continue using it, and, eventually, it generally breaks in a way that makes it unusable.  If I'm going to put my energies into something it's going to be into something with a future, not a past.
 
--

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

 

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 11:45 AM, Jackie wrote:
For example, the 'say all' function doesn't
actually work, [in Libre Office]
-
That actually shocks me.  I have not seen anyone make that assertion in the past, and there have been a lot of LO users passing through here, the Win10 for Screen Reader Users, and JAWS groups.

To me, that's an absolute essential, regardless of what you're using.  It's got to be able to be read through.

But I stand behind my general assertion that using unsupported or "twilight state" software doesn't make sense.  Even if there are issues with LO, as but one example, most organizations have a commitment to accessibility these days (and the makers of LO definitely do) so reports of issues are likely to be addressed and fixes forthcoming.  That's never happening with Jarte, or any other "twilight state" or unsupported software.  You just keep having to do more and more contortions as time goes by to continue using it, and, eventually, it generally breaks in a way that makes it unusable.  If I'm going to put my energies into something it's going to be into something with a future, not a past.
 
--

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: nvda and braille displays

dennis huckle
 

Hello again,

With the focus you replicate alt f 4 by pressing spacebar and dots 2 5 6.

Hope that works with your display.

Most commands are chorded. That is to say they are used in conjunction with the spacebar.

One example is control is chorded c.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 09 June 2021 14:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and braille displays

 

also where could I find info on with NVDA and the NLS eReader (based on Humanware’s Brailleiant and Camillion 20 models), can one use from the display Alt+f4 and other commands?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



El 9 jun 2021, a la(s) 5:16 a.m., dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...> escribió:



Hello all,

I now use my focus 14 braille display with nvda and it really works well.

One question however.

I want to select three files that are in alphabetical order and copy them to the clipboard before transferring them elsewhere.

Copying and pasting is fine but just how to select the three files I’m not too sure of.

Thanks all,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: nvda and braille displays

dennis huckle
 

Hello,

Not sure about that as yet but I feel sure there may be different key combinations for different displays.

If you go to settings and braille, then look at the displays in the list and select the one you are using. If its not there select auto.

Then go to input gestures with your display connected, in braille you should find a list of key combinations listed for that display.

I only use the freedom scientific focus 14 display so can’t really speak about others but hope this gives you some kind of guidance.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 09 June 2021 14:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and braille displays

 

also where could I find info on with NVDA and the NLS eReader (based on Humanware’s Brailleiant and Camillion 20 models), can one use from the display Alt+f4 and other commands?

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel



El 9 jun 2021, a la(s) 5:16 a.m., dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...> escribió:



Hello all,

I now use my focus 14 braille display with nvda and it really works well.

One question however.

I want to select three files that are in alphabetical order and copy them to the clipboard before transferring them elsewhere.

Copying and pasting is fine but just how to select the three files I’m not too sure of.

Thanks all,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Jackie
 

Brian, you're correct, of course, except there are some areas that are
really lacking in LO. For example, the 'say all' function doesn't
actually work, & I personally like using that to gauge the flow of my
writing. Softmaker, unfortunately, really isn't usable, at least from
my experience. It's like Paul Simon said in "Mrs. Robinson", I
guess--"laugh about it, shout about it, when you've got to choose, any
way you look at it you lose." Aint bein' blind fun! :).

On 6/9/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
When it comes to Jarte, it exists in a "grey area" where it's still being
distributed, but it is, for all practical intents and purposes,
unsupported.  For that reason and that reason alone, it makes more sense to
go with something like LibreOffice or SoftMaker Free Office that can handle
both reading in and saving out in DOCX format with ease.

The DOC format is supported by most because so many ancient DOC files exist,
and the need to read them does and will exist far into the future.  But most
word processors that do read in a DOC will generally prompt you to use DOCX,
ODT, or some other more modern file format if you have modified a DOC file
and go to save it.

And LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and SoftMaker Free Office (in the testing I've
done if it is installed using the option for its menu interface - its ribbon
interface is inaccessible in the current free version) are all accessible
and all handle all of the modern file formats.

Going through great gyrations in order to shoehorn backward compatibility
with software such as Jarte, which is in a twilight state, just does not
make sense.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.
The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression,
which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the
clearest indicator of who you are.

~ Brian Vogel





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Re: nvda and braille displays

dennis huckle
 

I’ll try that,

Should work but its just getting the combination of braille keys right.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: 09 June 2021 14:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and braille displays

 

In a PC keyboard you press Control on the first file, maintain pressed and with arrows select the others. Press space in the ones you want to select...

Have you tried to simulate that with the Braille display keys?

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:16 de 09/06/2021, dennis huckle escreveu:

Hello all,

I now use my focus 14 braille display with nvda and it really works well.

One question however.

I want to select three files that are in alphabetical order and copy them to the clipboard before transferring them elsewhere.

Copying and pasting is fine but just how to select the three files I’m not too sure of.

Thanks all,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

 

When it comes to Jarte, it exists in a "grey area" where it's still being distributed, but it is, for all practical intents and purposes, unsupported.  For that reason and that reason alone, it makes more sense to go with something like LibreOffice or SoftMaker Free Office that can handle both reading in and saving out in DOCX format with ease.

The DOC format is supported by most because so many ancient DOC files exist, and the need to read them does and will exist far into the future.  But most word processors that do read in a DOC will generally prompt you to use DOCX, ODT, or some other more modern file format if you have modified a DOC file and go to save it.

And LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and SoftMaker Free Office (in the testing I've done if it is installed using the option for its menu interface - its ribbon interface is inaccessible in the current free version) are all accessible and all handle all of the modern file formats.

Going through great gyrations in order to shoehorn backward compatibility with software such as Jarte, which is in a twilight state, just does not make sense.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Gene
 

I just looked at the help page JARTE provides regarding DOCX files.  I believe the reason it refers to 2007 DOCX files is because Word 2007 may have been the first version of Word in which DOCX files were supported.  I think it is very likely that the utility will work with JARTE to the present day.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
And I see that you are assuming the converter pack won’t work just because it is old.  I think it likely will work.  there is nothing lost by trying it.  I don’t think the JARTE developers would have continued to refer users to a utility that no longer works. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Gene
 

And I see that you are assuming the converter pack won’t work just because it is old.  I think it likely will work.  there is nothing lost by trying it.  I don’t think the JARTE developers would have continued to refer users to a utility that no longer works. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Gene
 

If you try to open a docx file in Jarte, a dialog will come up telling you how to get a Microsoft utility that will allow it to read Docx files. 
 
I see this a lot.  People often ask how to do what their guess is about how to solve a problem and don’t explain what the problem is or what they want to do. 
 
Now that we know what you want to do, we can address the specific problem. 
 
Try opening a DOCX file and the dialog will come up.  Follow the link given, download and install the utility.  You can now open DOCX files.  You can’t make modifications and save the file again as a DOCX file.  You will have to save it as another format but you can read any DOCX file you wish and as long as you don’t want to modify it, if your purpose is to read them, that will meet your needs.  As I said, if you want to modify a file, you will have to save it as some other format supported by JARTE.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: the new voices for nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

That won’t work, the  loud environment is in my headphones. Lol! Let’s  say mostly trains and planes. And most voices even when cranked are way way way too soft. Espeak is not, mostly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 5:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

That is one of the reasons I use headphones or ear buds with noise canceling. This way I don't have to hear those but in where not needed.

 

On 6/8/2021 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I actually need a louder voice because

 

  1. I have slight hearing loss
  2. I am mostly in very loud environments where I cannot hear my screen reader.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

Brian, you asked what need does this address? It addresses the need for people to have clearer, more familiar-sounding espeak voices with a choice of speaking styles and inflections or intonations. Since most people like Klatt-based voices, such modifications would give people several different klatt-based espeak voices to choose from. Also it may be helpful for a good-sounding klatt-voice with a familiar speaking style to be set as the espeak default voice, rather than the non-klatt harsher-sounding voices. 


TeamMate Audit Software

Anthony Monteith
 

Good day ,

Is TeamMate Audit software accessible with NVDA?


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Jackie
 

You can also download the ms 2007 compatibility pack here:
https://en.softonic.com/download/microsoft-office-compatibility-pack/windows/post-download

Please look at the installation carefully so as not to be given
potentially unwanted programs. I don't think that'll be the case here,
but the warning still stands anyway.

On 6/9/21, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
Get a copy of LibreOffice, it is MS office compatible.
The newer versions work well with screen readers.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Russell
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.











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Re: Notepad ++ 8 and nvda

 

hi.
for navigating between opened documents,
i use control tab not control page down.
also, my version is not version 8.
but i even tested version 8 for some minutes and did not remember any
accessibility issue on it.

On 6/9/21, William <xsuper.sillyx@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I just updated Notepad ++ to version 8.

After that, when I use ctrl pageup or pagedown to switch tab, nvda will
no longer speak the new tab title.

Any way to fix this?

Thanks







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Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Get a copy of LibreOffice, it is MS office compatible.
The newer versions work well with screen readers.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Rui Fontes
 

You have built-in in Windows 10 a word editor able to handle DOCX files...

Is name is WordPad...

After opening you can, if you want, save it in DOC format...



Rui Fontes


Às 14:56 de 09/06/2021, David Russell escreveu:

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.




Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.

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