On 5 Dec 2020, at 2:26 am, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi friends
I badly need a nvda keystrokes to see data filled cells in EXCEL. in
other words, I need an NVDA version of control+shift+d in jaws.

Hello All,
          Every once in a while I post tutorials on how to use features of Groups.io that can make your life much easier.  In this case, it's when you want to change the e-mail address associated with your Groups.io account.   If you're subscribed to only one or two Groups.io groups, then the old unsubscribe-resubscribe method using the new address is fine, but if you're subscribed to many groups this gets old, fast.  It also means that you will end up being put back on first message moderated status for all those groups where you unsubscribed and resubscribed, because Groups.io has no idea that this is a change for an existing user, and treats you as a brand new user of Groups.io.
           If you want to change the e-mail address associated with your Groups.io Account, and by extension that means for all the groups you've subscribed to using that address, then try these instructions after you download and review them:
Changing the Email Address for Your Groups.io Account <https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1f3zlutbqRJ10rIIOLQitJJyz9LtmqhnQ> (docx)
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Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
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I can't help you with Outlook, but I just wanted to mention that this is one of the annoyances that prompted me to look for an alternative email client - and that's how I found Thunderbird. In terms of verbosity it is much better. So if you are not bound to outlook, fwiw you can consider Thunderbird as well.

--Tony

Folks:

I'm looking for advice on reducing the verbosity of the message grouping info in Microsoft outlook.

As you navigate through messages, tasks, notes, or any other Outlook items that have been sorted and grouped, there is an extremely long announcement that happens whenever you transition from one group to another. Groups can be date ranges, priority flags, labels, etc. depending on how you've sorted your items. Sometimes the grouping info actually seems to be spoken twice which makes it even worse. The final frustration of the problem is that the relevant information about the newly selected Outlook item is spoken after the grouping information, which means you need to sit through a flood of overly-verbose and redundant TTS before you can get to the info ab out the current item.

For example, inbox messages are grouped by "today," "Yesterday," "last week," etc. If you're arrowing down through the message list, the info about each message is spoken as it is selected (e.g., subject, sender, arrival time, etc.). However, when you arrow from the first message of Today to the last message from Yesterday, NVDA speaks a bunch of info about the newly selected group before speaking the expected message info. Depending on the grouping and sorting criteria, this can be quite a bit of verbiage...

A relatively tame example of a grouping message is: "Group by: Expanded: Date: Yesterday grouping Group by: Expanded: Date: Yesterday Selected: Expanded" These messages can be much longer if you've sorted by criteria in addition to date.

Obviously we need access to the info about these groupings, but I find the way it's presented to be extremely frustrating. Can anybody tell me how to reduce this verbosity or to improve the user experience with this?

BTW, I recently installed the Outlook Extended add-on which is really cool. I was hoping the authors might have included some mechanism for managing this problem, but unfortunately not yet.

Best to all!

--JAM

Dear all,



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Best regards

Adriani

Dear all,



only about 4 hours remaining until NVDACon 2020 begins! Let's make it to a
historic event, one that produces impact for all of us in a positive way!
To
make sure that we all are treated equally, please make sure that you
respect
some very important rules as follows:

1. In your team talk, please enable push to talk in the general
settings so that your background sound does not disturb others when
speaking

2. Please enable echo reduction in the sound system settings of
the team talk app or software

3. Please give you a name when entering the conference. Users
with
no name will be kicked out after 5 minutes. We have to make sure that we
can
differ between users so that every one has the occasion to speak and raise
its questions

4. Please respect all the moral rules. We will not accept
statements / content that imply violent, sexual, demeaning or in any other
way discrinimatory behavior



The code of conduct for the NVDA project applies in the same way for the
NVDACon. Please read the code of conduct below and treat any participant
with respect and kindness.

<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md>;
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md



Let's bridge the distance!



Best regards

Adriani

I had so much fun preparing two "thunderclaps" for Nvda-Con, I decided I want to do a tutorial on object nav that approaches it differently than previous efforts. Hopefully it can be something for next year's con.

Anyway, I mostly use object nav with in-house software for my job, so I need to find something free that makes good practice material. Something that really lets you exercise all the ins and outs of navigating objects.

Does anyone have a recommendation for software or a Windows 10 app that is completely accessible if you use object nav and mouse clicking to work with its features?

--Debee