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locked Re: Thunderbird talking way too much

Mary Otten
 

Thanks, David, for that hint about disabling the status bar. I’m going to try that, and if that works, then that would be great. Otherwise, I will report in exact detail in accordance with Brian‘s request about what exactly it was saying. But right now, I’m outside enjoying a rather nice day for once in what is usually rainy Oregon.

On Apr 8, 2020, at 3:34 PM, David Csercsics <bleeblat@...> wrote:

I got the 68.7 update today and noticed it was chatty. It was reading the status bar, so I disabled that, and it's less verbose. You can disable the status bar from view -> toolbars.




locked Thunderbird talking way too much

 

Yeah to the poster on here with the issue with thunderbird 68.7, the statusbar is quite verbose, stating extra information at the end of the message.

Now in outlook I get a list of messages and I get unread or read at the start depending if they are, but right now the statuses say their bits after the fact with a pause.

So yeah the status bar is off.

Now if they change it so it says everything at the beginning or better yet get it so you can have things make noise if they are read or not then we can use sound cues which are less intrusive.

Re: Boot Disc

Andrea Sherry
 

Wanting to do some maintenance. There is a folder on my system drive which was left behind after uninstallation of an unwanted program. Cannot get rid of it. Thought if I booted from a usb or some such I would be able to remove.
Andrea

On 9/04/2020 9:09 am, Richard Kuzma via groups.io wrote:
If you are doing windows ten, you can use narrator.
Win seven has some created by several people.
I have one here that has nvda built into it.
Let me know what you are trying to accomplish and maybe I could help better.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Boot Disc

Does anyone know of a boot disc with speech?
Andrea





Re: Boot Disc

Richard Kuzma
 

If you are doing windows ten, you can use narrator.
Win seven has some created by several people.
I have one here that has nvda built into it.
Let me know what you are trying to accomplish and maybe I could help better.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Boot Disc

Does anyone know of a boot disc with speech?
Andrea

Re: google chrome version 81

Jason White
 

If I open a PDF file in Chrome 81, NVDA describes it as an "embedded object", then fails to read it. JAWS does the same, so I assume something changed in Chrome. On the other hand, VoiceOver for Mac with Chrome 81 reads PDF documents as well as ever.

Is this a change that NVDA and other screen readers will need to adapt to, or is it a Chrome bug? Can others reproduce it? Note that I'm not using an external PDF reader; this is entirely with the PDF processor included in Chrome. I can of course use Adobe Reader dC instead, although Chrome was until recently giving me better results on a range of PDF files.

On 4/8/20, 14:27, "Shaun Everiss" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of @smeveriss> wrote:

well thats good to know.

On 8/04/2020 9:59 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
> Google Chrome 81 was released today...
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
> Sent: Donnerstag, 19. März 2020 01:09
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] google chrome version 81
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> A lot of stuff is delayed.
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> Bar skype and a few codec updates nothing has been released due to this damn virus.
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> Usually by now I have at least a couple releases of my display drivers for the month but nothing.
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> On 19/03/2020 12:22 pm, Don H wrote:
>> Has the release of google chrome version 81 been delayed?
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Boot Disc

Andrea Sherry
 

Does anyone know of a boot disc with speech?
Andrea

MS-Word Template for Reporting NVDA Issues/Bugs in GitHub

 

As much as I'd like to be able to say, "Oh, it's simple," to actually enter the information requested in an issue/bug report in GitHub for NVDA, it really isn't because of what's asked for and that an edit-box doesn't make it easy to get yourself in the right place to enter specific pieces of information requested.    I believe it is critically important for the NVDA user community to actually report issues/bugs they have encountered, as that is the only way the development team can be made aware of them.  Of course, before you'd create a new issue you would want to search the open issues to see if someone "got there first" with what you intend to report, and just add a comment to the existing issue in that case.

But toward the end of making it much easier to report a bug to the folks at NVAccess I have taken their issue report format and created an MS-Word document template that takes you through, item by item, for the information requested.  I'd like to get some input from anyone who has an interest in using this by sharing my first swing at this.  I need to perfect the actual instructions I include in the template, that would allow the completely uninitiated to be able to use the form successfully then, after filling it out, unprotect it so that the entire report itself can be copied and pasted into the edit box in GitHub, already perfectly formatted.

Please contact me privately, using the Reply to Sender link that should be at the bottom of this message if you want to be one of my testers and to offer your input regarding what needs to be tweaked.  The only thing I'll ask, in advance, is that those who are already used to doing these reports need to understand that the prompts I give as you land in the various items are aimed at newbies.  Once you know what belongs there you can just shut NVDA up and start typing.

Once I get this to a state where I think it's ready for primetime I'll write up a formal set of step-by-step instructions on what you need to do in order to use it successfully.  Some of that is what will be worked out during "beta testing."  You will not actually be submitting any issues as part of this.  This exercise does not even require you to have a GitHub account.

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       ~ Madonna

 

 

locked Re: Thunderbird talking way too much

David Csercsics
 

I got the 68.7 update today and noticed it was chatty. It was reading the status bar, so I disabled that, and it's less verbose. You can disable the status bar from view -> toolbars.

locked Re: Thunderbird talking way too much

Curtis Delzer
 

I unqualifyingly agree! this is nasty compared to b4.

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On 4/8/2020 11:56 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi all,


I just updated Thunderbird, and all of a sudden, it is talking way too much. For instance, each time I delete a message, I hear about how that message was deleted and added to trash, or some such. There are other announcements as well, rendering the experience entirely too verbose and inefficient for getting through email. I'm using the latest nvda, and as far as I know, there haven't been changes to the mozilla apps enhancements add on which I have been using without incident until now. My t-bird version is 68.7.0; it just updated to that.


Mary



locked Re: Thunderbird talking way too much

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe someone on my twitter said unchecking some stuff in the tool bar, but they really did not give much more than that. I hope this will be a shove in the right direction.

Good luck.

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On 8 Apr 2020, at 14:44, Roger Stewart wrote:

I just upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version.  I'm getting a lot of unwanted feedback telling me every time I delete a message how many messages have been moved to trash and how many unread messages are in the inbox.  I hope a fix can be found to turn this off.  Maybe someone might find it useful, and if this is so, then a toggle to turn it on or off would be good.

Roger

locked Thunderbird talking way too much

Roger Stewart
 

I just upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version.  I'm getting a lot of unwanted feedback telling me every time I delete a message how many messages have been moved to trash and how many unread messages are in the inbox.  I hope a fix can be found to turn this off.  Maybe someone might find it useful, and if this is so, then a toggle to turn it on or off would be good.


Roger

locked Re: Thunderbird talking way too much

 

Mary,

           This sounds very much like what was going on in version 70b3.  I just helped someone roll back from that to 68.6.0 and that was fine.  I am on the release channel and when I just checked I'm updating, and have been updated to 68.7.0.

            While it would be odd for any major change in a dot level release, it could be some small change has triggered this, as accessibility testing is spotty at best (as a general rule).

             I don't have time at the moment to fire up NVDA and listen, but if you can provide just a couple of the things being said that weren't before, I will do that later and see if I have them, too.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.04.1 hotfix #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.04.1 hotfix is now available. This version resolves an issue reported by people using Word 365 where NVDA may announce odd things when you toggle font attributes (bold, font size, etc.), especially more so for non-English speakers. In addition, added support for Microsoft Solitaire Collection (NVDA (finally) can announce card decks).

 

As a reminder from 20.04 release, Windows 10 App Essentials will end support for Windows 10 Version 1903 (May 2020 Update) in July 2020 (a lot earlier for people using development snapshots).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: determining the version of Chrome

Gene
 

If you open the menus, up arrow to help, its much closer, and press enter, you will be on about.  Press enter and about will open.
Tab once and then use the screen review keys numpad 7 and numpad 9 to move up and down in the screen.  Nine moves you down and if you repeatedly move, you will get to the version number.  You will also hear whther Chrome is up-to-date or if it is updating or if it has, you will see a restart message.
 
I don’t know the laptop layout screen review keys, the ones I gave are for the desktop layout.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2020 2:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] determining the version of Chrome
 

I was going to try out chrome because of the discussions that have been going on here.  I am curious if it has truly improved so much. I decided to check to see what version I have but can't seem to find a way to figure this out.  How does one do this?  I can't find a way to see any about info for Chrome like I can on other programs and browsers.


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Re: determining the version of Chrome

Scott Salzman
 

Alt+F will also open the Chrome menu.  Then press "E" to open the Help sub-menu, then press "G" to open the "About Google Chrome" sub-menu, and the version number will be on the page that loads.


You can also use the following link to directly access the "About Google Chrome" page, which has the version number:  chrome://settings/help.

 

Scott

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] determining the version of Chrome

 

I was going to try out chrome because of the discussions that have been going on here.  I am curious if it has truly improved so much. I decided to check to see what version I have but can't seem to find a way to figure this out.  How does one do this?  I can't find a way to see any about info for Chrome like I can on other programs and browsers.

 

Thanks.

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Re: determining the version of Chrome

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

 I love Chrome it's the only thing I use. Very friendly with NVDA. I love how going into help checks for updates and starts the update. Be safe all!

Re: determining the version of Chrome

Don H
 

go into the google chrome settings then help then about.  That will show your current version and do the update.

On 4/8/2020 2:59 PM, Jackie wrote:
Dan, In Chrome, press alt, arrow up to help, (twice), press right
arrow, you'll be on the about chrome option, press enter.

On 4/8/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I was going to try out chrome because of the discussions that have been
going on here.  I am curious if it has truly improved so much. I decided to
check to see what version I have but can't seem to find a way to figure this
out.  How does one do this?  I can't find a way to see any about info for
Chrome like I can on other programs and browsers.


Thanks.



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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Re: determining the version of Chrome

Jackie
 

Dan, In Chrome, press alt, arrow up to help, (twice), press right
arrow, you'll be on the about chrome option, press enter.

On 4/8/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:
I was going to try out chrome because of the discussions that have been
going on here.  I am curious if it has truly improved so much. I decided to
check to see what version I have but can't seem to find a way to figure this
out.  How does one do this?  I can't find a way to see any about info for
Chrome like I can on other programs and browsers.


Thanks.



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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

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determining the version of Chrome

Dan Beaver
 

I was going to try out chrome because of the discussions that have been going on here.  I am curious if it has truly improved so much. I decided to check to see what version I have but can't seem to find a way to figure this out.  How does one do this?  I can't find a way to see any about info for Chrome like I can on other programs and browsers.


Thanks.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

locked Thunderbird talking way too much

Mary Otten
 

I should have said in my previous message that I have disabled the mozilla enhancements addon, and the result is the same. There is way too much talking, and I keep seeing things about how t-bird thinks a message is junk, and when I hit enter on the "no" button to say it isn't junk, I lose focus and have to close and reopen the app. It has turned what use to be a pleasant efficient experience into a frustrating waste of time.


Mary