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Re: Reading printed landscape sheet

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Farhan,

Any printed sheet would need to be run through an OCR program to convert the text on the paper to something NVDA can read.  The text is usually imaged with a scanner, though can be done with a camera as well.  Most OCR programs can detect text in landscape or portrait mode so if you already have a scanner etc, that shouldn't be an issue.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 5:46 PM farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

I have a printed sheet which printed in landscape mode. How to read it?



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Re: NVDA Tutorial Material in the Russian Language

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Albert,

Here is a link we have to a Russian mailing list: To subscribe, send a blank email to nvda-rus-subscribe@... and reply to the received message.

Kind regards
Quentin.


On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 11:23 AM Albert Ruel <albert.gtt@...> wrote:

Hi all.  Can anyone point me to an email discussion list like this one for Russian NVDA users, as well as to any tutorial/training material that might be available in Russian. 

 

Thx, Albert

 

 



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Re: NVDA and outlook, discussion about columns in message list

 

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 05:26 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:
So it looks like my ignorance was justified to some extent.
I wish to put it on the public record that:

1.  You are absolutely correct.

2.  It was not my intention to imply that ignorance is, in any way, always unjustified.

3.  If you're frustrated that you can't do something it's well worth asking in venues such as this one, someone may know how to do it.

Also, with regard to CTRL+Down or Up Arrow working as part of multi-select, they do, if you're in the process of selecting.  If you're not, they just change the style of traversal.
 
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Re: column titles in Excel

 

I generally find the easiest thing to do is to actually assign formal row and/or column titles as part of the spreadsheet itself.

See: Excel - Assigning a Title Row or Column (MS-Word Format)
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column titles in Excel

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I know the standard procedure to have a column title announced is to place the cursor in the column you wish announced and then press NVDA+c which is great if you only need a single column. What do you do if you need multiple columns announced?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: NVDA and outlook, discussion about columns in message list

Tony Malykh
 

Hi Brian,

So it looks like my ignorance was justified to some extent. I was so sure that threaded view was unusable because I did my own research on the Internet and didn't find any information about Control+Up/Down arrows. I actually don't remember finding any article about using Outlook with NVDA. This is a stark contrast with Thunderbird - NVAcces has an excellent tutorial on using Thunderbird with NVDA:

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

This tutorial also mentions something like "Thunderbird is the most accessible email client to work with NVDA". I don't mean to start email client war, I'm just saying that, because I was primed by this tutorial. And there is no alternative tutorial for NVDA+Outlook - or is there?

The only thing I found is an official accessibility guide for Outlook from Microsoft:

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/keyboard-shortcuts-for-navigating-mail-in-outlook-ca79fe45-80e5-47dd-b7a0-841d4711ed53

That mentiones Control+Up/Down shortcuts, but the function that they perform is called: "Select multiple non-adjacent messages". Who would've thought.

Anyway, it seems to me that there is some demand for a good tutorial on how to use NVDA with Outlook. Even though I still personally prefer Thunderbird at this point, it is always a good idea to have an alternative. Especially, it seems to me that Thunderbird development slows down these days (Mozilla no longer supports them and they are asking for donations more and more aggressively), and a couple of years down the road we might have to switch to Outlook as the only viable option.

--Tony



On 2/16/2019 1:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Tony,

           You're quite welcome.   To be perfectly honest, your reaction to Outlook conversation view is far from the only one that I've seen expressing the same sentiments.  Every time I see it my first desire is to reach out and throttle the person making it.

           Outlook is an incredibly mature product, and probably is the best-supported by screen readers in general.  Most of the time issues are not with Outlook, but with ignorance about how to use it (whether that's getting it to do something you want it to do or stop doing something you don't want it to do).  I didn't even know about the CTRL+Arrow keys and discovered it in response to the questions raised here.  I generally figure that, when it comes to Windows based programs of the age and stature that Outlook has achieved, that there's almost always some keystroke sequence to do virtually anything whether I happen to know what it is or not.  I experimented to find this one, and I also experimented to discover the two-level expansion.  I found that the latter is well documented after having discovered it myself.

             I get, more than you might think, the kind of frustration you had expressed.  But what my years "in the biz" have taught me is that there's generally a solution I don't know about when it seems obvious that a lot of people other than myself would probably be screaming if there weren't.
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Re: ITunes and NVDA

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Brian, after connecting your phone to your pc and turning on iTunes press f6 until you hear ‘search’.  Then tab until you hear iPhone and press the space bar to check it.

Now tab to the backup section. You can decide where you wish your backup to take place. iCloud or pc.  You can do an encrypted backup which will also save your passwords.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ITunes and NVDA

 

I need to use Itunes now as well, to enable me to do an Iphone back up. Its

interface seems to be like the Apply Iphone one, ie nothing like Windows

standard, and the problem is that you do not know what you do not know so if

there aare bits  nvda cannot read, how can one know?

Brian

 

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From: "Ján Kulik" <jan.kulik.szsle@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:54 AM

Subject: [nvda] ITunes and NVDA

 

 

Hi all, does anyone use your iTunes on a computer with an NVDA reader? NVDA

just does not announce any offers after the ALTm slider or iTunes version

information. Unfortunately, I recently installed it.

 

Thank you for your answers.

Greetings from Slovakia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

Robert Geoffroy
 

Thank you, that works!

Robert

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] De la part de Brad Snyder
Envoyé : dimanche 17 février 2019 14:52
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

To find the email address of a sender to the group:
1) Create a forwarded message by typing CTRL + F, or however you choose to do so.
2) Navigate to the message body, and arrow down to the header information of the original message and find the line that begins with “From”.
3) This line contains the senders email address.

This should work in all email clients, including all versions of Outlook.

HTH


- Brad -





On Feb 17, 2019, at 06:11, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't use Outlook but someone who does will likely provide information.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Robert Geoffroy <mailto:robert.geoffroy77@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

Hi, Gene,

Microsoft Outlook version 14.0.7229.5000

Thanks,

Robert


-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] De la part de Gene
Envoyé : dimanche 17 février 2019 12:37
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

There are ways. How you do so may depend on the e-mail program you are using. What is your program?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Robert Geoffroy <mailto:robert.geoffroy77@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 5:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

Hi, Bianka and all,

Did you see my message, Bianka (replying tou yours)?

Is there a way to write directly to the sender instead of the group?

Have a nice Sunday, February 17, 2019
Robert

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] De la part de Robert Geoffroy
Envoyé : vendredi 15 février 2019 13:58
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

Hi, Bianka, and thank you!

You offer me to send you a private mail: am I supposed to find your email anywhere? I don't know the trick! Here is my addresse: Robert.geoffroy77@...

Best regards,

Robert


-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] De la part de Bianka Brankovic
Envoyé : vendredi 15 février 2019 12:47
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessible dictionaries with NVDA

Hello Robert,

I have stopped using offline dictionaries alltogether as either dict.leo.org or lingue.com usually does the trick at least for English-German German-English.

I have heard of people being successful with the online versions oft the Pons dictionaries though.

Maybe, if you could elaborate a bit on your scenario there might be other ressources you could use to solve your current issue. Also, I might be able to support with other German ressources, please drop me a private message if this is of interest to you.

Thanks and kind regards,

Bianka

Re: Accessibility problems with Medium.

Susan Gerhart
 

Thanks, Robert, I have been considering submitting articles there. Not
now! Those accessibility flaws are the most egregious I've seen.

Susan G,
CatchTheVision.Life and
AChipOnHerShoulder.com

Re: Golden Cursor question

 

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 02:58 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.
Well, it can come in really, really handy for being able to activate unlabeled controls, repeatedly, in programs one might not otherwise be able to access.

I've helped someone who really needed to be able to use a program that was, for all intents and purpose, completely inaccessible get through it for their intended purposes just because they could do the equivalent of "point and click" on the controls once we'd worked together to locate them on a fully maximized window for that program.  Admittedly, my sight was necessary for the setup phase, but it made it possible to use this antique thing they had to be able to use as they only needed to be able to activate two controls (and I don't recall the details at this point).

There are different kinds of accessibility, and while this certainly isn't complete in any meaningful sense it certainly is functional within the context.  I've recommended programs that are not 100% accessible but where the function of focus is because it's only that function I intend the client to use it for, and the program is particularly good at it.
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Re: Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

It can be done – it is matter of looking for specific text inside the object hierarchy, similar in concept to how Virtual Review add-on functions (gathers text while navigating controls on screen; this reminds me: I need to write an add-on internals about that add-on very soon). Effectively, it is sort of similar to how browse mode’s text representation really works (you go through all sorts of web elements or controls inside a PDF/Word file, then gather it into a format that looks like a single document; find command in browse mode just looks for text inside this “document”).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The NVDA find command is currently used only in Browse Mode.  JAWS has a find command that works when in the JAWS cursor so you can search the screen for text on that screen when using the JAWS cursor. 

 

I don't know if NVDA would only have a screen review find command or if it could be implemented in object presentation as well.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 2:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

You mean an extension of NVDA find command to operate sort of everywhere? Not that I know of at the moment, but might be something that can be useful for version 4.0 (to be developed by someone, not me, as I’m the current guardian of that add-on and intend to pass it onto someone once Python 3 transition takes place).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Golden Cursor question

Gene
 

The NVDA find command is currently used only in Browse Mode.  JAWS has a find command that works when in the JAWS cursor so you can search the screen for text on that screen when using the JAWS cursor. 
 
I don't know if NVDA would only have a screen review find command or if it could be implemented in object presentation as well.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

Hi,

You mean an extension of NVDA find command to operate sort of everywhere? Not that I know of at the moment, but might be something that can be useful for version 4.0 (to be developed by someone, not me, as I’m the current guardian of that add-on and intend to pass it onto someone once Python 3 transition takes place).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

The basics of it is already present in NVDA (browse mode version); it is now a matter of extending that to other places, hopefully with an add-on first, followed by an offer to move it into NVDA itself once it proves popular.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Accessibility problems with Medium.

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Was just reading what you wrote to the guys and the response they gave. I find what works well for me when i contact different places I say i am blind and use a screen reader. I then point them towards the nvda screen reader website or in some cases they can see a demo of nvda on you tube.

So at least it gives them idea I better not forget i say it is a adaptive technology for the blind.


The way you have to look at it at times is that it might be there very first time they have come across a screen reader or or even herd of one and what it does.


I then go through the website or software and point out what needs to be done.


In a lot of cases it is mostly labeling..


Say in the case of a website i use for banking for they went graphical did not put in the alt/tag so the screen reader could read what it was. took out the headings etc.


So I pointed out now to navigate the website i had to use the letter G for graphics to navigate the site but because there was no alt/tab it did not know what it was etc.


Pointed out what had to be done and they fixed it. I am still there customer but have done this for other websites and software etc.


Pretty much if they know what the problem is most will fix.


Another example this one still a website in the account sections they had 16 unlabled buttons but when i let them know they said they were labled visually. So then i done a recording of me navigating the account section with nvda so they could hear what i heard then pasted it on there face book page. Then emailed them back on the same email thread. Again in the email re enforced what i had pasted to there face book page and the sections that were not right.


again it got all fixed in the account section but for another company.


I guess it is better than what we see here on the list now and again people saying it does not work. What does not Is it a website/ software you know what i mean.


any how good luck with them.


But i have noticed this in some emails sent to the list. I am just wondering if the approach is the same I would have to go back and see what you said in the first emails to them.


Good luck


Gene nz


On 18/02/2019 1:19 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

Yes, I just wanted the NVDA community to see what I've been up to. :) And, I'm still working on Patreon's accessibility too. I should have told TB to send a read receipt when sending these out, but this was my second time writing this because gmail, or TB, gave a, server busy! Error so had to do this all over again. If they don't reply within a week, I'll start making phone calls.

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Re: Golden Cursor question

Gene
 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: CLARITY OF TERMINOLOGY AND DOCUMENTATION

 

Hi,

Sort of there with NVDA at the moment. A few years ago someone added a bunch of global commands to NVDA intended to toggle document formatting settings from everywhere, and some settings do have shortcut commands to toggle them outside of settings dialog.

One way that could help out with this “mess” is search functionality, something an NVDA developer from Europe is pondering at the moment (although side-tracked by more important things).

P.S. for those using Excel: a welcome change has just come to alpha snapshots (will talk about it on a separate topic).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CLARITY OF TERMINOLOGY AND DOCUMENTATION

 

Another thing, and it's not necessarily easy to do, is make settings structures have multiple routes to get to the settings one is actually looking for.

I actually think that Microsoft has done an admirable, if not perfect, job of doing that with the Windows 10 settings.  One can start digging in from any of several different likely ports of entry and follow a different route somewhat intuitively (somewhat) connected to how one started looking in the first place.

I think this is particularly necessary for any given setting that may relate to several seemingly unrelated feature sets but where each depends on that setting in some way.

A good example of the Windows 10 Settings where they did NOT succeed in this is the Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart.  To me, even based upon the wording for the toggle itself, this should be a part of the Update & Security settings, but it isn't.  It's under Accounts, Sign-In options pane and I know of no way to get to it if you start out in Update & Security settings.

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Re: Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

Gene
 

But if, for some reason, you hear a lot of graphics announced and you can't turn off graphic announcements in the settings, you may save yourself a good deal of annoyance.  and it isn't much work in general.  Think about when the last two or three times were that you heard the word graphic other than in this thread or when your screen-reader announced an actual graphic. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

That’s more hard work though, as well as concentrating on the text itself for mistakes, I’d say.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 19:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

By context a lot of the time.  if not, they will know a word is missing because what is being said won't make sense.  At that point, you can go back and read the word by letter.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:12 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

But how would they know the word was missing, if the synth didn’t utter anything?

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 19:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

Yes, it would be skipped.  Most people wouldn't come across the word often in documents and they have to remember that they won't hear it.  They can read letter by letter at the missing word location to verify that it is that word if they wish.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

Hi Jean,

 

What happens then if you come across the word graphic in a document?  Does it just get missed out?  That would make it awkward for proofing.  I don’t like using dictionaries as a cludge if I’m honest.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 16 February 2019 13:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

If this setting isn't available in preferences, and I am not aware of a do not announce graphics setting, you may be able to stop graphic from being announced using the speech dictionary.

Gene

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Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 5:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

To all members
Does NVDA has feature to ignore graphic while navigating web page, and if it has, now to enable it?
A friend asked me this, and he shared him thought that sometimes he doesn't want to see graphics in article he reading, and he wonder if we could add this to NVDA if it doesn't exist. I can also create a tiket for this if noone did before.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Re: CLARITY OF TERMINOLOGY AND DOCUMENTATION

 

Another thing, and it's not necessarily easy to do, is make settings structures have multiple routes to get to the settings one is actually looking for.

I actually think that Microsoft has done an admirable, if not perfect, job of doing that with the Windows 10 settings.  One can start digging in from any of several different likely ports of entry and follow a different route somewhat intuitively (somewhat) connected to how one started looking in the first place.

I think this is particularly necessary for any given setting that may relate to several seemingly unrelated feature sets but where each depends on that setting in some way.

A good example of the Windows 10 Settings where they did NOT succeed in this is the Use my sign-in info to automatically finish setting up my device and reopen my apps after an update or restart.  To me, even based upon the wording for the toggle itself, this should be a part of the Update & Security settings, but it isn't.  It's under Accounts, Sign-In options pane and I know of no way to get to it if you start out in Update & Security settings.

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Re: Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

You mean an extension of NVDA find command to operate sort of everywhere? Not that I know of at the moment, but might be something that can be useful for version 4.0 (to be developed by someone, not me, as I’m the current guardian of that add-on and intend to pass it onto someone once Python 3 transition takes place).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Golden Cursor question

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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