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Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

 

When it comes to Jarte, it exists in a "grey area" where it's still being distributed, but it is, for all practical intents and purposes, unsupported.  For that reason and that reason alone, it makes more sense to go with something like LibreOffice or SoftMaker Free Office that can handle both reading in and saving out in DOCX format with ease.

The DOC format is supported by most because so many ancient DOC files exist, and the need to read them does and will exist far into the future.  But most word processors that do read in a DOC will generally prompt you to use DOCX, ODT, or some other more modern file format if you have modified a DOC file and go to save it.

And LibreOffice, OpenOffice, and SoftMaker Free Office (in the testing I've done if it is installed using the option for its menu interface - its ribbon interface is inaccessible in the current free version) are all accessible and all handle all of the modern file formats.

Going through great gyrations in order to shoehorn backward compatibility with software such as Jarte, which is in a twilight state, just does not make sense.
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Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Gene
 

I just looked at the help page JARTE provides regarding DOCX files.  I believe the reason it refers to 2007 DOCX files is because Word 2007 may have been the first version of Word in which DOCX files were supported.  I think it is very likely that the utility will work with JARTE to the present day.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
And I see that you are assuming the converter pack won’t work just because it is old.  I think it likely will work.  there is nothing lost by trying it.  I don’t think the JARTE developers would have continued to refer users to a utility that no longer works. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Gene
 

And I see that you are assuming the converter pack won’t work just because it is old.  I think it likely will work.  there is nothing lost by trying it.  I don’t think the JARTE developers would have continued to refer users to a utility that no longer works. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Gene
 

If you try to open a docx file in Jarte, a dialog will come up telling you how to get a Microsoft utility that will allow it to read Docx files. 
 
I see this a lot.  People often ask how to do what their guess is about how to solve a problem and don’t explain what the problem is or what they want to do. 
 
Now that we know what you want to do, we can address the specific problem. 
 
Try opening a DOCX file and the dialog will come up.  Follow the link given, download and install the utility.  You can now open DOCX files.  You can’t make modifications and save the file again as a DOCX file.  You will have to save it as another format but you can read any DOCX file you wish and as long as you don’t want to modify it, if your purpose is to read them, that will meet your needs.  As I said, if you want to modify a file, you will have to save it as some other format supported by JARTE.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2021 8:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk
 
Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.





Re: the new voices for nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

That won’t work, the  loud environment is in my headphones. Lol! Let’s  say mostly trains and planes. And most voices even when cranked are way way way too soft. Espeak is not, mostly.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 5:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

That is one of the reasons I use headphones or ear buds with noise canceling. This way I don't have to hear those but in where not needed.

 

On 6/8/2021 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I actually need a louder voice because

 

  1. I have slight hearing loss
  2. I am mostly in very loud environments where I cannot hear my screen reader.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

Brian, you asked what need does this address? It addresses the need for people to have clearer, more familiar-sounding espeak voices with a choice of speaking styles and inflections or intonations. Since most people like Klatt-based voices, such modifications would give people several different klatt-based espeak voices to choose from. Also it may be helpful for a good-sounding klatt-voice with a familiar speaking style to be set as the espeak default voice, rather than the non-klatt harsher-sounding voices. 


TeamMate Audit Software

Anthony Monteith
 

Good day ,

Is TeamMate Audit software accessible with NVDA?


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Jackie
 

You can also download the ms 2007 compatibility pack here:
https://en.softonic.com/download/microsoft-office-compatibility-pack/windows/post-download

Please look at the installation carefully so as not to be given
potentially unwanted programs. I don't think that'll be the case here,
but the warning still stands anyway.

On 6/9/21, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:
Get a copy of LibreOffice, it is MS office compatible.
The newer versions work well with screen readers.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Russell
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.











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Re: Notepad ++ 8 and nvda

 

hi.
for navigating between opened documents,
i use control tab not control page down.
also, my version is not version 8.
but i even tested version 8 for some minutes and did not remember any
accessibility issue on it.

On 6/9/21, William <xsuper.sillyx@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I just updated Notepad ++ to version 8.

After that, when I use ctrl pageup or pagedown to switch tab, nvda will
no longer speak the new tab title.

Any way to fix this?

Thanks







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Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Get a copy of LibreOffice, it is MS office compatible.
The newer versions work well with screen readers.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] RE Renaming File Extensions In Bulk

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.


Re: Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

Rui Fontes
 

You have built-in in Windows 10 a word editor able to handle DOCX files...

Is name is WordPad...

After opening you can, if you want, save it in DOC format...



Rui Fontes


Às 14:56 de 09/06/2021, David Russell escreveu:

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.




Renaming File Extensions in Bulk

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Members,

Thanks to each of you for responding to my post concerning changing
the file extension from docx to doc. This was to make Jarte more user
friendly. However, You and my 'wife' are right about changing docx to
doc does not necessarily work. Either get a converter program, or get
a newer version of MS Word appear to be my two choices.
To save time, I cannot install MS Word on my new computer via a
product key that came with the computer, because my MicroSoft account
info is partially lost and in error.
Jarte seems to say I need the converter pack from 2007, it's now 2021.
I suppose learning Google Docs is another option, too and free of
charge. However, I have several files on a thumb drive that I want
access to, and not sure how to go about resolving this mess.
I found the article about renaming bulk files on Computer Hope.com,
and it sounded easy to do and like what I needed to do, but evidently
I miscalculated on both. Now you know much of the story.. Thanks!

Best,
David C. Russell, Author, and one of the steps pre-install, is to add
your account info.


Re: nvda and braille displays

Rui Fontes
 

In a PC keyboard you press Control on the first file, maintain pressed and with arrows select the others. Press space in the ones you want to select...

Have you tried to simulate that with the Braille display keys?


Rui Fontes


Às 11:16 de 09/06/2021, dennis huckle escreveu:

Hello all,

I now use my focus 14 braille display with nvda and it really works well.

One question however.

I want to select three files that are in alphabetical order and copy them to the clipboard before transferring them elsewhere.

Copying and pasting is fine but just how to select the three files I’m not too sure of.

Thanks all,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: nvda and braille displays

Gerardo Corripio
 

also where could I find info on with NVDA and the NLS eReader (based on Humanware’s Brailleiant and Camillion 20 models), can one use from the display Alt+f4 and other commands?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 9 jun 2021, a la(s) 5:16 a.m., dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...> escribió:



Hello all,

I now use my focus 14 braille display with nvda and it really works well.

One question however.

I want to select three files that are in alphabetical order and copy them to the clipboard before transferring them elsewhere.

Copying and pasting is fine but just how to select the three files I’m not too sure of.

Thanks all,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: the new voices for nvda

tim
 

That is one of the reasons I use headphones or ear buds with noise canceling. This way I don't have to hear those but in where not needed.


On 6/8/2021 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I actually need a louder voice because

 

  • I have slight hearing loss
  • I am mostly in very loud environments where I cannot hear my screen reader.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

Brian, you asked what need does this address? It addresses the need for people to have clearer, more familiar-sounding espeak voices with a choice of speaking styles and inflections or intonations. Since most people like Klatt-based voices, such modifications would give people several different klatt-based espeak voices to choose from. Also it may be helpful for a good-sounding klatt-voice with a familiar speaking style to be set as the espeak default voice, rather than the non-klatt harsher-sounding voices. 


nvda and braille displays

dennis huckle
 

Hello all,

I now use my focus 14 braille display with nvda and it really works well.

One question however.

I want to select three files that are in alphabetical order and copy them to the clipboard before transferring them elsewhere.

Copying and pasting is fine but just how to select the three files I’m not too sure of.

Thanks all,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: What is the highest version of nvda for windows 7 please?

Joe Paton
 

Thanks Quentin

first class.

Joe

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 10:22:20 +1000
"Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Just confirming that NVDA has not dropped support for Windows 7. There
will come a time when we do, but we will be sure to publicise that widely
so it doesn't surprise anyone. Also, when we do, we won't leave you with a
broken setup. Currently, if you tried to install the latest version of
NVDA on a machine with Windows XP, it would give you an error message and
invite you to use NVDA 2017.3 (the last version which works on Windows XP,
for which there is a link on the download page). As and when we eventually
drop support for Windows 7, we will do a similar thing.

In the meantime, if you do encounter any issues running either the stable,
beta or alpha builds of NVDA on Windows 7, please do let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:18 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

From what I can see in the "What's new" page, that includes the change
logs (
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2020.4/nvda_2020.4_changes.html)
NVDA remains compatible with Windows 7 at least up through the current
production release, 2020.4. There is a bug fix in the list for 2020.4 that
makes reference to a change for Windows 7.
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actions. The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and
expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body. What you do
and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.*

~ Brian Vogel




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You wrote:


Re: What is the highest version of nvda for windows 7 please?

Gene
 

NVDA supports Windows 7 in its most current version and continues to do so in versions under development.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Paton
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2021 4:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] What is the highest version of nvda for windows 7 please?
 
Hello Good People.

What is the last nvda release that will run on windows 7 please?
Thanks.
Joe






Notepad ++ 8 and nvda

William
 

Hi,

I just updated Notepad ++ to version 8.

After that, when I use ctrl pageup or pagedown to switch tab, nvda will no longer speak the new tab title.

Any way to fix this?

Thanks


Re: What is the highest version of nvda for windows 7 please?

Quentin Christensen
 

Just confirming that NVDA has not dropped support for Windows 7.  There will come a time when we do, but we will be sure to publicise that widely so it doesn't surprise anyone.  Also, when we do, we won't leave you with a broken setup.  Currently, if you tried to install the latest version of NVDA on a machine with Windows XP, it would give you an error message and invite you to use NVDA 2017.3 (the last version which works on Windows XP, for which there is a link on the download page).  As and when we eventually drop support for Windows 7, we will do a similar thing.

In the meantime, if you do encounter any issues running either the stable, beta or alpha builds of NVDA on Windows 7, please do let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:18 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
From what I can see in the "What's new" page, that includes the change logs (https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2020.4/nvda_2020.4_changes.html) NVDA remains compatible with Windows 7 at least up through the current production release, 2020.4.  There is a bug fix in the list for 2020.4 that makes reference to a change for Windows 7. 
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: is there a tutorial to use NVDA with thunderbird email client

Louise Pfau
 

Hi Brian.  I think I got it.  I had trouble with a couple of websites where the url took multiple lines by wrapping around.
 
Thanks,
 
Louise

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