Hi Quentin!

I wanted you to know that

I use the laptop commands for object navigation on my laptop, even though it has a Number pad.

I like the laptop commands better, because you can keep your hands right on the alpha-numeric keys. I love just being able to hold down the shift and NVDA keys, and just press the arrow keys to do object nav.

I would not be affected at all.

I just wanted you to know!

David Moore

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From: Ján Kulik

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:23 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA remote

Hi all, Can anyone give me advice? in the instructions I read how to connect to the person via the NVDA remote. I tried everything possible, but I don't know why it still doesn't work for me. I didn't control the remote computer with the F11 key. I don't understand why. Thank!

Hey there. To all would you please share this the date this closes is the
end of June so please take the time to read this .

Actually, another way to do this is to go to your NVDA desktop
shortcut & press alt enter once it's highlighted. You'll be in the
properties dialog box. Tab till you hear "shortcut : hotkey field"
(likely, you'll tab twice). It should say control + alt +n, assuming
the hotkey has not been changed, & assuming a US keyboard
configuration, as other configurations may differ.

On 5/9/19, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a couple configuration profiles but I did nothing to the standard
nvda start shortcut nor have I reassigned any function in any add on to
that shortcut.
Roger









On 5/9/2019 3:01 PM, Luke Davis wrote:

Hi Roger

I have not noticed this on boot as you describe, but I have
experienced it while using web browsers and in other contexts (but
mainly with Firefox).
When it happens, I can usually do a control-alt-n, the standard start
NVDA shortcut key, which kills the running copy and starts a new one.
Note, that this is not an NVDA key, it is a Windows shortcut key.

It was unclear from your messages whether you actually tried this.

If you have, and it doesn't work: then as someone else suggested, you
may have re-mapped that key to something.  The only way I can think of
to determine whether that is the case, is to enter key describer mode
(nvda-1), and then press control-alt-n.  If NVDA restarts, it probably
hasn't been reassigned, at least not in the standard profile.

Do you have any configuration profiles setup?

Luke

On Thu, 9 May 2019, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even
use nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows
all processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then
stop NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is
good. This is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a
total reboot. This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does
anyone know what causes this and is there any better way of getting
out of this?

yes, I hear 2 tones correctly that the connection is successful. And when I hear 3 tones, it means I am connected to a control server that can control my computer.

I just checked in app data and my nvda folder. I find nothing called log or log files of any kind there. They may be hidden or system files and don't show up. I even checked in all the subfolders of nvda and found nothing like logs there either.

Roger

On 5/9/2019 2:44 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

NVDA always save two logs. One is the log regarding your NVDA currently running and the other is the log for the last time NVDA was restarted.
This second file is called nvda-old.log. Both files are located at %appdata%.

Hth

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Em 09/05/2019 16:33, Roger Stewart disse:

How and where would I find an old log file? I thought that file was dumped when nvda is shut down and a new one started the next time nvda is run.

On 5/9/2019 2:08 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you type nvda -r in the run dialogue and restart tyat way? Then pull up a old log file and set the text to the list?

Take care

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On 9 May 2019, at 10:57, Jackie wrote:

Well, ahem. That didn't work for me either.

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

I realized I forgot to mention the alt key. Also, it don't allays work.

On 5/9/2019 10:36 AM, Jackie wrote:

That certainly was ineffective when I attempted it. You really meant
NVDA key + n, Bryce?

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

This also happens to me maybe once a week. Usually holding down the
NVDA key and tapping the letter N twice will reboot NVDA. H T H.

On 5/9/2019 10:04 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use
nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all
processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop
NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good.
This
is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot.
This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what
causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

Thanks.

Roger

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I have a couple configuration profiles but I did nothing to the standard
nvda start shortcut nor have I reassigned any function in any add on to
that shortcut.
Roger









On 5/9/2019 3:01 PM, Luke Davis wrote:

Hi Roger

I have not noticed this on boot as you describe, but I have
experienced it while using web browsers and in other contexts (but
mainly with Firefox).
When it happens, I can usually do a control-alt-n, the standard start
NVDA shortcut key, which kills the running copy and starts a new one.
Note, that this is not an NVDA key, it is a Windows shortcut key.

It was unclear from your messages whether you actually tried this.

If you have, and it doesn't work: then as someone else suggested, you
may have re-mapped that key to something.  The only way I can think of
to determine whether that is the case, is to enter key describer mode
(nvda-1), and then press control-alt-n.  If NVDA restarts, it probably
hasn't been reassigned, at least not in the standard profile.

Do you have any configuration profiles setup?

Luke

On Thu, 9 May 2019, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even
use nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows
all processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then
stop NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is
good. This is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a
total reboot. This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does
anyone know what causes this and is there any better way of getting
out of this?

NVDA always save two logs. One is the log regarding your NVDA currently running and the other is the log for the last time NVDA was restarted.
This second file is called nvda-old.log. Both files are located at %appdata%.

Hth

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Em 09/05/2019 16:33, Roger Stewart disse:

How and where would I find an old log file? I thought that file was dumped when nvda is shut down and a new one started the next time nvda is run.

On 5/9/2019 2:08 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you type nvda -r in the run dialogue and restart tyat way? Then pull up a old log file and set the text to the list?

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 May 2019, at 10:57, Jackie wrote:

Well, ahem. That didn't work for me either.

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

I realized I forgot to mention the alt key. Also, it don't allays work.

On 5/9/2019 10:36 AM, Jackie wrote:

That certainly was ineffective when I attempted it. You really meant
NVDA key + n, Bryce?

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

This also happens to me maybe once a week. Usually holding down the
NVDA key and tapping the letter N twice will reboot NVDA. H T H.

On 5/9/2019 10:04 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use
nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all
processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop
NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good.
This
is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot.
This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what
causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

Thanks.

Roger

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Hi Roger

I have not noticed this on boot as you describe, but I have experienced it while using web browsers and in other contexts (but mainly with Firefox).
When it happens, I can usually do a control-alt-n, the standard start NVDA shortcut key, which kills the running copy and starts a new one.  Note, that this is not an NVDA key, it is a Windows shortcut key.

It was unclear from your messages whether you actually tried this.

If you have, and it doesn't work: then as someone else suggested, you may have re-mapped that key to something.  The only way I can think of to determine whether that is the case, is to enter key describer mode (nvda-1), and then press control-alt-n.  If NVDA restarts, it probably hasn't been reassigned, at least not in the standard profile.

Do you have any configuration profiles setup?

Luke

On Thu, 9 May 2019, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good. This is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot. This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good. This is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot. This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

How and where would I find an old log file? I thought that file was dumped when nvda is shut down and a new one started the next time nvda is run.

On 5/9/2019 2:08 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you type nvda -r in the run dialogue and restart tyat way? Then pull up a old log file and set the text to the list?

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 May 2019, at 10:57, Jackie wrote:

Well, ahem. That didn't work for me either.

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

I realized I forgot to mention the alt key. Also, it don't allays work.

On 5/9/2019 10:36 AM, Jackie wrote:

That certainly was ineffective when I attempted it. You really meant
NVDA key + n, Bryce?

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

This also happens to me maybe once a week. Usually holding down the
NVDA key and tapping the letter N twice will reboot NVDA. H T H.

On 5/9/2019 10:04 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use
nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all
processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop
NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good.
This
is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot.
This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what
causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

Thanks.

Roger

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Can you type nvda -r in the run dialogue and restart tyat way? Then pull up a old log file and set the text to the list?

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 May 2019, at 10:57, Jackie wrote:

Well, ahem. That didn't work for me either.

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

I realized I forgot to mention the alt key. Also, it don't allays work.

On 5/9/2019 10:36 AM, Jackie wrote:

That certainly was ineffective when I attempted it. You really meant
NVDA key + n, Bryce?

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

This also happens to me maybe once a week. Usually holding down the
NVDA key and tapping the letter N twice will reboot NVDA. H T H.

On 5/9/2019 10:04 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use
nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all
processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop
NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good.
This
is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot.
This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what
causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

Thanks.

Roger

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Ján,
he doesn't know what version he has and he doesn't know what his NVDA version is.
This may well be the root cause for all of this.
Though I'd love to be wrong on this one, I'm almost sure that if you use an NVDA/NVDA Remote with a version other than that that the person you are trying
to help is using, you won't have success controlling their machine.
You'll be able to connect, though. Just what you're reporting. You can connect but you can't control the machine.
Well, I guess we found the problem. What a pity we haven't  found the solution.

Will the external sound card work even though there are no drivers installed?  I'll give it a try.  I already

I doubt you can but you can buy a very inexpensive external sound card, just plug it in, and attach your speakers.  If you don't have sound, try rebooting while the sound card is connected. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Howard Traxler

Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 8:52 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Synthesizer support

Happy Wednesday all.


Is there any way to make a portable copy of NVDA drive an old external
hardware synthesizer?


I have a computer that I messed up; deleted the sound drivers.And, of
course, nothing can talk now.  But I do have several kinds of older
hardware serial and parallel synthesizers.  If I can get it talking,
maybe I could reinstall the drivers?


Thanks.


Howard