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Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Luke Davis
 

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Lukasz Golonka wrote:

Sorry for going slightly off topic here, but I'd like to ask if you are using alpine under Windows and if so is it usable with NVDA. I am still looking at different mail clients In hopes of finding something better than my current one.
Sorry, no. Under Linux. Either directly, or sometimes by SSH from Windows, but never actually the Windows version.

It's on my "eventually try" list.

Luke

Re: excel and headers not working as intended

George Kerscher
 

I find that if the column is set to say column D, then when I am in cells a, b, or c, the heading information, i.e. you need to be to the right of the column head.

 

Try setting A1 as your row and column head and pubt headings across and down and see if this works.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

 

I am aware of both these points and they do not address the issues I am having. Any other suggestions?

 

Regards,

Sally

 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:15 PM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

The other thing to note is that column headers are only announced as you move left or right (between columns), and row headers are only announced as you change rows.  If you have column headers set and press the down arrow - the column hasn't changed so the header isn't read again.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:21 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:

Hi,

You also need to check the tables , which is the one just before the column and row.

Best
George

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

Hello all,

I don't see anything describing my situation in recent conversations so
am starting a new thread.

I'm going through the NVDA excel training and have found that when
following the precise directions in the training, headers are not
reading as it says they should.

I have a set of cells with data. I go to the start of the row that I
want to use as column headers and press NVDA+shift+c.

NVDA announces A2 set as start of column headers. This is correct.

However that header is not read when I navigate through the table.

If I repeat the set column header hotkey, it says that the cell is
already set as the column header. If I press it twice rapidly it says
that the column header is removed.

Everything works as it should right up until I actually start navigating
the table data and do not hear headers spoken.

I am using NVDA 19.2, MS excel 1908 most recent build.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Am I missing something in settings? I
do have the table information checkbox for headers selected in the
document settings of NVDA.

If the instructions in the excel tutorial are missing a step it would be
good to correct that as well.

Thank you in advance for help troubleshooting this.

Warmly,
Sally








 

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Training and Support Manager

 

Re: excel and headers not working as intended

Sally Kiebdaj
 

I am aware of both these points and they do not address the issues I am having. Any other suggestions?

Regards,
Sally


On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:15 PM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The other thing to note is that column headers are only announced as you move left or right (between columns), and row headers are only announced as you change rows.  If you have column headers set and press the down arrow - the column hasn't changed so the header isn't read again.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:21 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:
Hi,

You also need to check the tables , which is the one just before the column and row.

Best
George

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

Hello all,

I don't see anything describing my situation in recent conversations so
am starting a new thread.

I'm going through the NVDA excel training and have found that when
following the precise directions in the training, headers are not
reading as it says they should.

I have a set of cells with data. I go to the start of the row that I
want to use as column headers and press NVDA+shift+c.

NVDA announces A2 set as start of column headers. This is correct.

However that header is not read when I navigate through the table.

If I repeat the set column header hotkey, it says that the cell is
already set as the column header. If I press it twice rapidly it says
that the column header is removed.

Everything works as it should right up until I actually start navigating
the table data and do not hear headers spoken.

I am using NVDA 19.2, MS excel 1908 most recent build.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Am I missing something in settings? I
do have the table information checkbox for headers selected in the
document settings of NVDA.

If the instructions in the excel tutorial are missing a step it would be
good to correct that as well.

Thank you in advance for help troubleshooting this.

Warmly,
Sally










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Mouse Tracking on/off?

 

Thanks.

On 9/19/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Here is the description from the manual:
When enabled, NVDA will announce the text currently under the mouse pointer,
as you move it around the screen. This allows you to find things on the
screen, by physically moving the mouse, rather than trying to find them
through object navigation.
In other words, you use it when you are moving a physical mouse which you
aren’t doing. However, at times, when I use the move virtual mouse command
using the keyboard, I hear what the mouse is on announced. So leave it on.
It may be helpful and it won’t do anything undesired.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mouse Tracking on/off?

Hi Group,
For someone using just the keyboard is it better to keep mouse track on or
off?
Sometimes I have trouble activating links and wonder if that has
anything to do with it.

--
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Library of Congress Certified Braille Proofreader
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e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader





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Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Lukasz Golonka
 

Hello,

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 02:27:14 -0400 (EDT)
"Luke Davis" <luke@...> wrote:
Indeed, when I looked at the message, the link in question wasn't clickable, just as everyone but Gene experienced. Since I am using alpine, I am able to look at the individual text and html attachments that are included with the message. I don't know if Windows mail or Outlook can actually do that, because these are not intended to be saved independently from the message.
Sorry for going slightly off topic here, but I'd like to ask if you are using alpine under Windows and if so is it usable with NVDA. I am still looking at different mail clients In hopes of finding something better than my current one.

--
Regards
Lukasz

Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Luke Davis
 

It is not a problem for me (well, it doesn't work for me, like everyone else no matter what email program, but I don't really care).
I can just view the text version of the attachment, like I explained, or click it there. Or, more easily, just copy and paste it.

I was trying to explain, maybe badly, why this is actually happening to people.
It was the OP who had the problem, and raised this issue.

Luke

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Luke, what email client are you using that seems to be causing this problem?
 
******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     
 
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sample of link in email that will not work properly
 
On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:
 

 I will lay you money that if you're looking at that message and bring up the screen reader links list it will not be present.           I don't
understand

why, on rare occasion, things that are clearly links do not end up being "linkified" (as I call the process of automatically changing what is clearly the
text of a link into an actual embedded link) automatically.   It's a mystery, but one that does happen.
Easy to understand. Harder to explain.
 
Almost every email message that acts like a webpage, has two actual versions of
the message included.
One of them is text only, and one is HTML so it can be rendered prettily, and
behave more like a webpage.
 
It is the second of these that we usually see.
 
Indeed, when I looked at the message, the link in question wasn't clickable,
just as everyone but Gene experienced.
Since I am using alpine, I am able to look at the individual text and html
attachments that are included with the message. I don't know if Windows mail or
Outlook can actually do that, because these are not intended to be saved
independently from the message.
 
Anyway, saving the HTML attachment separately, and then viewing the source, it
is easy to see what is happening. That particular link is presented in a span
element, that is styled into being a link via CSS. Either the email programs
aren't loading or can't process that CSS, like mine, or they don't understand it
because of whatever rendering engine they use. The other links above and below
the one you are talking about, are presented in normal anchor elements, and so
can be easily clicked.
 
Interestingly, if you view the text version of the attachment in an email
program, the email app's own linking function is active, recognizes it as a
link, and makes it clickable.
Of course, to do that, you probably have to disable HTML emails, which will make
things very unusual for you.
 
For example, the text version of messages on this list, have very different
footers than the HTML versions (no "reply to sender", etc., links, for example),
although you usually only see them if someone sends a text only message, and the
groups.io interface doesn't HTMLize it, which it doesn't always do.
 
Anyway, that's why this is happening: Applevis's wordpress plugin that generates
those emails, encodes the links incorrectly for email presentation in the HTML
version of the emails it sends.
 
Interestingly, if you hit the "view this email on the web" link at the top, the
link will work fine on the page, and in the source, presents in an anchor
element. This is entirely a Wordpress problem.
 
Luke
 
 
 
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Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Luke, what email client are you using that seems to be causing this problem?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sample of link in email that will not work properly

 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

 

>  I will lay you money that if you're looking at that message and bring up the screen reader links list it will not be present.           I don't understand

> why, on rare occasion, things that are clearly links do not end up being "linkified" (as I call the process of automatically changing what is clearly the

> text of a link into an actual embedded link) automatically.   It's a mystery, but one that does happen.

 

Easy to understand. Harder to explain.

 

Almost every email message that acts like a webpage, has two actual versions of

the message included.

One of them is text only, and one is HTML so it can be rendered prettily, and

behave more like a webpage.

 

It is the second of these that we usually see.

 

Indeed, when I looked at the message, the link in question wasn't clickable,

just as everyone but Gene experienced.

Since I am using alpine, I am able to look at the individual text and html

attachments that are included with the message. I don't know if Windows mail or

Outlook can actually do that, because these are not intended to be saved

independently from the message.

 

Anyway, saving the HTML attachment separately, and then viewing the source, it

is easy to see what is happening. That particular link is presented in a span

element, that is styled into being a link via CSS. Either the email programs

aren't loading or can't process that CSS, like mine, or they don't understand it

because of whatever rendering engine they use. The other links above and below

the one you are talking about, are presented in normal anchor elements, and so

can be easily clicked.

 

Interestingly, if you view the text version of the attachment in an email

program, the email app's own linking function is active, recognizes it as a

link, and makes it clickable.

Of course, to do that, you probably have to disable HTML emails, which will make

things very unusual for you.

 

For example, the text version of messages on this list, have very different

footers than the HTML versions (no "reply to sender", etc., links, for example),

although you usually only see them if someone sends a text only message, and the

groups.io interface doesn't HTMLize it, which it doesn't always do.

 

Anyway, that's why this is happening: Applevis's wordpress plugin that generates

those emails, encodes the links incorrectly for email presentation in the HTML

version of the emails it sends.

 

Interestingly, if you hit the "view this email on the web" link at the top, the

link will work fine on the page, and in the source, presents in an anchor

element. This is entirely a Wordpress problem.

 

Luke

 

 

 

Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Luke Davis
 

Ah, sorry.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019, Gene wrote:

I, too, couldn't clidk on the link and I didn't see it defined as a link.  I said that the link for view the message in a browser is clickable but that the
link under discussion isn't.  I was pointing out the contrast so people could compare to make sure they saw the clickable link as a link and the one that
isn't as not being shown as a link.

Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Gene
 

I, too, couldn't clidk on the link and I didn't see it defined as a link.  I said that the link for view the message in a browser is clickable but that the link under discussion isn't.  I was pointing out the contrast so people could compare to make sure they saw the clickable link as a link and the one that isn't as not being shown as a link.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sample of link in email that will not work properly

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

>  I will lay you money that if you're looking at that message and bring up the screen reader links list it will not be present.           I don't understand
> why, on rare occasion, things that are clearly links do not end up being "linkified" (as I call the process of automatically changing what is clearly the
> text of a link into an actual embedded link) automatically.   It's a mystery, but one that does happen.

Easy to understand. Harder to explain.

Almost every email message that acts like a webpage, has two actual versions of
the message included.
One of them is text only, and one is HTML so it can be rendered prettily, and
behave more like a webpage.

It is the second of these that we usually see.

Indeed, when I looked at the message, the link in question wasn't clickable,
just as everyone but Gene experienced.
Since I am using alpine, I am able to look at the individual text and html
attachments that are included with the message. I don't know if Windows mail or
Outlook can actually do that, because these are not intended to be saved
independently from the message.

Anyway, saving the HTML attachment separately, and then viewing the source, it
is easy to see what is happening. That particular link is presented in a span
element, that is styled into being a link via CSS. Either the email programs
aren't loading or can't process that CSS, like mine, or they don't understand it
because of whatever rendering engine they use. The other links above and below
the one you are talking about, are presented in normal anchor elements, and so
can be easily clicked.

Interestingly, if you view the text version of the attachment in an email
program, the email app's own linking function is active, recognizes it as a
link, and makes it clickable.
Of course, to do that, you probably have to disable HTML emails, which will make
things very unusual for you.

For example, the text version of messages on this list, have very different
footers than the HTML versions (no "reply to sender", etc., links, for example),
although you usually only see them if someone sends a text only message, and the
groups.io interface doesn't HTMLize it, which it doesn't always do.

Anyway, that's why this is happening: Applevis's wordpress plugin that generates
those emails, encodes the links incorrectly for email presentation in the HTML
version of the emails it sends.

Interestingly, if you hit the "view this email on the web" link at the top, the
link will work fine on the page, and in the source, presents in an anchor
element. This is entirely a Wordpress problem.

Luke



Re: Google G suite with nvda

Bianka Brankovic
 

Hi all,

 

I tested GSuite as the company where I work is considering using it.

 

I found no differences regarding accessibility of Google Mail, Sheets or Docs. Now, I haven’t really done a test of all the functions and there might be some differences to the non-business versions but they weren’t apparent while I tried it.

 

Thanks and kind regards,

 

Bianka

 

 

Thanks and kind regards,

 

Bianka

 

 

Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

 I will lay you money that if you're looking at that message and bring up the screen reader links list it will not be present.           I don't understand
why, on rare occasion, things that are clearly links do not end up being "linkified" (as I call the process of automatically changing what is clearly the
text of a link into an actual embedded link) automatically.   It's a mystery, but one that does happen.
Easy to understand. Harder to explain.

Almost every email message that acts like a webpage, has two actual versions of the message included.
One of them is text only, and one is HTML so it can be rendered prettily, and behave more like a webpage.

It is the second of these that we usually see.

Indeed, when I looked at the message, the link in question wasn't clickable, just as everyone but Gene experienced. Since I am using alpine, I am able to look at the individual text and html attachments that are included with the message. I don't know if Windows mail or Outlook can actually do that, because these are not intended to be saved independently from the message.

Anyway, saving the HTML attachment separately, and then viewing the source, it is easy to see what is happening. That particular link is presented in a span element, that is styled into being a link via CSS. Either the email programs aren't loading or can't process that CSS, like mine, or they don't understand it because of whatever rendering engine they use. The other links above and below the one you are talking about, are presented in normal anchor elements, and so can be easily clicked.

Interestingly, if you view the text version of the attachment in an email program, the email app's own linking function is active, recognizes it as a link, and makes it clickable.
Of course, to do that, you probably have to disable HTML emails, which will make things very unusual for you.

For example, the text version of messages on this list, have very different footers than the HTML versions (no "reply to sender", etc., links, for example), although you usually only see them if someone sends a text only message, and the groups.io interface doesn't HTMLize it, which it doesn't always do.

Anyway, that's why this is happening: Applevis's wordpress plugin that generates those emails, encodes the links incorrectly for email presentation in the HTML version of the emails it sends.

Interestingly, if you hit the "view this email on the web" link at the top, the link will work fine on the page, and in the source, presents in an anchor element. This is entirely a Wordpress problem.

Luke

Google G suite with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys


I got asked a question on another list on how well nvda worked with this program.



Question below


how does NVDA work with google G-Suite?
This is the business version of google docs.

I know off my nvda tutorials for other programs page there are some you tube videos  using google docs etc is this different again this suite?

Using NVDA with Google programs by Roger Benz
The following NVDA Youtube tutorials are courtesy of Roger Benz from Google. They cover Google Drive, Google Docs, Google Sheets and Google Slides. To listen to these tutorials, please click on the link following each of the titles below:
Switch to the new Google Drive using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBDxYOR7CFY&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Drive using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDaZgDXBsWI&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Docs using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzSAqhHqQk&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Sheets using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCYT63b_m88&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Slides using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWZVQ-vldEk&feature=youtu.be
Using the online Gmail client with NVDA
The following audio tutorial has been recorded by Brandon Biggs. To listen to the audio tutorial, please go to the following link https://www.dropbox.com/s/v4s82rtspmin3a1/Using%20the%20Online%20Gmail%20Client%20with%20NVDA.mp3?dl=0



if there are people who use it how accessible is it with nvda?



Gene nz


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To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: excel and headers not working as intended

Quentin Christensen
 

The other thing to note is that column headers are only announced as you move left or right (between columns), and row headers are only announced as you change rows.  If you have column headers set and press the down arrow - the column hasn't changed so the header isn't read again.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 7:21 AM George Kerscher <kerscher@...> wrote:
Hi,

You also need to check the tables , which is the one just before the column and row.

Best
George

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

Hello all,

I don't see anything describing my situation in recent conversations so
am starting a new thread.

I'm going through the NVDA excel training and have found that when
following the precise directions in the training, headers are not
reading as it says they should.

I have a set of cells with data. I go to the start of the row that I
want to use as column headers and press NVDA+shift+c.

NVDA announces A2 set as start of column headers. This is correct.

However that header is not read when I navigate through the table.

If I repeat the set column header hotkey, it says that the cell is
already set as the column header. If I press it twice rapidly it says
that the column header is removed.

Everything works as it should right up until I actually start navigating
the table data and do not hear headers spoken.

I am using NVDA 19.2, MS excel 1908 most recent build.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Am I missing something in settings? I
do have the table information checkbox for headers selected in the
document settings of NVDA.

If the instructions in the excel tutorial are missing a step it would be
good to correct that as well.

Thank you in advance for help troubleshooting this.

Warmly,
Sally










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: excel and headers not working as intended

George Kerscher
 

Hi,

You also need to check the tables , which is the one just before the column and row.

Best
George

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] excel and headers not working as intended

Hello all,

I don't see anything describing my situation in recent conversations so
am starting a new thread.

I'm going through the NVDA excel training and have found that when
following the precise directions in the training, headers are not
reading as it says they should.

I have a set of cells with data. I go to the start of the row that I
want to use as column headers and press NVDA+shift+c.

NVDA announces A2 set as start of column headers. This is correct.

However that header is not read when I navigate through the table.

If I repeat the set column header hotkey, it says that the cell is
already set as the column header. If I press it twice rapidly it says
that the column header is removed.

Everything works as it should right up until I actually start navigating
the table data and do not hear headers spoken.

I am using NVDA 19.2, MS excel 1908 most recent build.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Am I missing something in settings? I
do have the table information checkbox for headers selected in the
document settings of NVDA.

If the instructions in the excel tutorial are missing a step it would be
good to correct that as well.

Thank you in advance for help troubleshooting this.

Warmly,
Sally

Re: Mouse Tracking on/off?

Gene
 

Here is the description from the manual:
When enabled, NVDA will announce the text currently under the mouse pointer, as you move it around the screen. This allows you to find things on the screen, by physically moving the mouse, rather than trying to find them through object navigation. 
In other words, you use it when you are moving a physical mouse which you aren’t doing.  However, at times, when I use the move virtual mouse command using the keyboard, I hear what the mouse is on announced.  So leave it on.  It may be helpful and it won’t do anything undesired.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] Mouse Tracking on/off?
 
Hi Group,
For someone using just the keyboard is it better to keep mouse track on or off?
Sometimes I have trouble activating links and wonder if that has
anything to do with it.

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


excel and headers not working as intended

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello all,

I don't see anything describing my situation in recent conversations so am starting a new thread.

I'm going through the NVDA excel training and have found that when following the precise directions in the training, headers are not reading as it says they should.

I have a set of cells with data. I go to the start of the row that I want to use as column headers and press NVDA+shift+c.

NVDA announces A2 set as start of column headers. This is correct.

However that header is not read when I navigate through the table.

If I repeat the set column header hotkey, it says that the cell is already set as the column header. If I press it twice rapidly it says that the column header is removed.

Everything works as it should right up until I actually start navigating the table data and do not hear headers spoken.

I am using NVDA 19.2, MS excel 1908 most recent build.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Am I missing something in settings? I do have the table information checkbox for headers selected in the document settings of NVDA.

If the instructions in the excel tutorial are missing a step it would be good to correct that as well.

Thank you in advance for help troubleshooting this.

Warmly,
Sally

Mouse Tracking on/off?

 

Hi Group,
For someone using just the keyboard is it better to keep mouse track on or off?
Sometimes I have trouble activating links and wonder if that has
anything to do with it.

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

Re: NVDA compatibility concern with M.S. office

Adriani Botez
 

Hello,

this shortcut works and is now reported by NVDA in the last NVDA alpha version. It will be available in NVDA 2019.3 but you can test it already if you install the last slpha version. You can find all alpha, beta and RC version of NVDA here:

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/


Thanks and best regards
Adriani

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singh Kushwaha
Gesendet: Samstag, 14. September 2019 07:08
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA compatibility concern with M.S. office

Sorry for short information, I'm using window7 and MS office7 for that matter.
Please guide me how get adjusted with NVDA?
Thanks for prompt response


On 9/13/19, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
The versions of Windows, MS Office, and NVDA are all needed first.
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Re: New add-on for Brother Utilities app

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

What was the extension?

The extra is only to the Brother utilities application, a kind of launcher to other Brother apps...

Any dificultie on those other apps, like in Brother control center?

Rui Fontes


Às 21:53 de 18/09/2019, Robert Logue escreveu:

Thanks Shaun. I downloaded the add on. I just don't know how to install it.  Doesn't seem to have the file extensions that NVDA uses. I used the instructions for installing add-ons in NVDA.
I haven't had the mental energy to tackle the WiFi setup.  I almost think it would be worth the installation fee if I get the tech to describe all the buttons.
Works fine as a printer using standard Windows print commands.
I like that this printer has dedicated buttons.
Bob
On 2019-09-12 3:02 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:
you go here

https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

However I wouldn't bother.

The combo boxes are still as inaccessible as ever.

The documentation doesn't have a command list, it will run as far back is 17.03 and as current is last nvda.

The documentation seems to just be the really basic readme pulled from github.

Now this is from a user looking at this briefly.

The addon works.

But it may as well be a pile of crap for all it does to me.

I don't know how to work it, there is basically no documentation except for a small description about what it does.

There isn't even a keyboard shortcut list.

If at all possible, I would like to see more than a learn more button labeled on the brother utilities and the iprint software.

There is a combobox on brother utilities but that and iprint are pritty much no gos as far as it matters.

Luckily unless you need to reinstall the driver you never have to bother with this really.

In fact depending on what you are doing, you may never need to bother about any of the brother software for basic tasks, both printing and scanning.

If your router or something changes you can edit the printer address as long as you have set that up yourself and configure it from windows and the web interfaces.

Hopefully you won't need to do that that often.

The software is a bit hit and miss, but then its not a problem because you don't need to use that software for scanning and printing which is about all we will ever need it for.

Anything else and well who knows.

The software for most brother things are just front ends for standard dumb users that want to use it.

The web interface is accessible enough for most users.

If you know how to configure a router then you will know how to use the web interface of any device like this.

The brother printer is like that.



On 13/09/2019 2:52 am, Robert Logue wrote:
Hello Rui.  I am very interested in your addon. I just got a Brother laser mfp.


Please. How do I install this addon?


Thanks.


Bob


On 2019-05-18 9:36 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints...

The code is available in:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher

Direct download:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




Re: Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Gene
 

It’s the e-mail program itself that makes written out links perform as links.  Why certain written out links don't perform that way is something I don't know.  But the sending program should simply render a written out link as text and your receiving program should recognize the syntax and render it as a link even though it is text.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sample of link in email that will not work properly

If some outgoing/source mail clients - some client software, and, some web interfaces, specifically render content as either plain text, or else, specifically serve it up as html markup/content, and then specifically don't specify some content as a link, while some receiving mail clients will attempt to automatically recognise links, etc., it will not always happen.


In other words, there's no simple fix/workaround, besides copying and pasting the link's URL/contents - NVDA should inform you if it recognises some content as a link, or else just considers it plain text - it will then not mention that it's a link, etc.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
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On 2019-09-19 4:58 PM, Gene wrote:
For some reason, it isn't recognized as a link by my e-mail program and I suspect that is why it doesn't work unless you copy and paste it into the browser.  there are no settings to change, you just have to work around the problem when it happens.
 
Do you hear the word link when you hear the link spoken or just the text spoken?  The link about view in browser has the usual word link spoken before it, showing that it is recognized as a link.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] Sample of link in email that will not work properly

Dear NVDA folks,

 

Sometimes I get a link in email that does not work properly. If in browse mode, I press enter on the link and nothing happens. I go into focus mode and the same. To get the link to work, I need to copy and paste to the clipboard, open the browser and enter the contents of the clipboard.

 

Other times, the link works by pressing enter.

 

The link below about bugs in iOS 13 demonstrates this behavior. Any thoughts? Do I have something wrong with my settings?

 

Best

George

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 2:03 AM
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Subject: [AppleVis Newsletter] The Accessibility Bugs Introduced and Resolved in iOS 13 for Blind and Low Vision Users

 

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We wanted to let you know that our post detailing the VoiceOver, braille, and low vision bugs which we believe to be introduced and resolved in iOS 13 is now available at https://www.applevis.com/blog/accessibility-bugs-introduced-and-resolved-ios–13-blind-and-low-vision-users

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