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Re: new edge

Arlene
 

I I too would like the instructions. I think I lost them too.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: January 18, 2020 7:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new edge

 

I thought I saved the instructions for disabling UI automation for the

new edge but I lost it.  Can someone post the instructions to do this

please.

 

 

 

 

Word Docx With Tables

Andrea Sherry
 

Each week the admin staff here send me a program of upcoming activities.
The document is formatted as a table with days as column headings and activity times as rows The document also contains graphics of some kind.
NVDA using Libreoffice, Openoffice or MS Office has difficulty handling this format.
Any suggestions?
Andrea

Re: new edge

Arlene
 

I I too would like the instructions. I think I lost them too.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: January 18, 2020 7:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new edge

 

I thought I saved the instructions for disabling UI automation for the

new edge but I lost it.  Can someone post the instructions to do this

please.

 

 

 

 

Re: Cakewalk by Band Land

John Isige
 

There are soft synths that are accessible with Reaper. Also, you can use Cakewalk's soft synths in Reaper. Maybe not all of them, but some anyway, it's been a while since I looked into it. I won't say more as this should go to the Reaper list. I mean, if Sonar and CT are working for you, cool. I'm not saying you should change just because. But you would get stuff that's actually being worked on and updated. You could always install Reaper and mess around with it, it won't affect your Sonar and CT installation at all.

On 1/18/2020 1:26 AM, Sky Mundell wrote:
Hello. I would agree, accept what keeps me using CakeTalking with Sonar under windows 7 is the professional softsynths. I am a professional musician and I rely on softsynths to do my productions That's why I stick with it and if there were softsynths that would do things like piano, guitar, etc. for Reaper that was accessible I would gladly switch to Reaper.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 11:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cakewalk by Band Land

You want to look into Reaper. Cakewalk hasn't been accessible since
version 8.5.


https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page


The mailing list is exceptionally helpful. Some good folks on there.


https://groups.io/g/rwp

On 1/17/2020 16:28, Scott Berry wrote:
Hello there,


I was just wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with Cakewalk
by Band Land. I can't get past the onboarding part of the Cakewalk
screen. Has anyone built any add-ons for this?







Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Richard Wells
 

System Access will be discontinued for sure at the end of 2020. DocuScan will not, at least for a while. We are seriously off topic, so I will stop responding to these questions unless directly contacted at richwels@...

On 1/17/2020 8:35 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:

So if I’m to understand it, will that Mean SA and DocuScan be discontinued eventually?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty with PDF Document

 

Two things: DocuScan 3 has not yet been discontinued though it has not had an update for a while. MS Word 2013 can convert PDF, but it may not be readable if it is done from images rather than text. This is where DocuScan can help. Again, NVDA is not the best way to use DocuScan. Quit NVDA before starting DocuScan.

On 1/17/2020 5:26 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Shaun, DocuScan Plus was worth it while it lasted. I still use it, and it works well with NVDA. Unfortunately, as I understand it, Serotek will no longer update or support this program and System Access at the end of 2020. Richard can correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am.

Andrea, if you're trying to open a pdf document, you can do this in Word 2013 and up. Simply use Word's open dialog to find the file, and press Enter on it like you would any other document. Word will convert the pdf to a docx file. NVDA reads most files pretty well this way. I hope this helps.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

Re: Turning off UI Automation in new Edge

 

Link to Joseph Lee's message regarding patch to Windows App Essentials add-on to support UI Automation:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/68920 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 

Re: Turning off UI Automation in new Edge

 

Yes. Brian is right, on second thought. Leave the setting on, download Josephs patch until NVDA 2019.3 comes out.

Re: Turning off UI Automation in new Edge

 

I would not be in any hurry to do this.  Joseph Lee has already posted that a fix has been made in NVDA for UI Automation.  It's something that really should be on, and will be on for other things going forward.

Unless you need it to be off for another screen reader it's much wiser to apply the NVDA fix.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 

Re: Turning off UI Automation in new Edge

 

Turning off UI Automation in new Edge

Don H
 

I thought I saved the instructions for disabling UI automation for the new edge but I lost it. Can someone post the instructions to do this please.

Re: Alternatives to Excel

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

David,

Thanks for your support! I discovered that the cell co-oridnates option was off in my NVDA settings under document presentation.

Silly me!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 10:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alternatives to Excel

Hi, Cearbhall.

Bear in mind that I'm not a regular user of Calc.
First, it's important to go into NVDA's document settings and ensure that the option for cell coordinates is checked. This is also true for Excel and it ensures that NVDA reads the cell coordinates, such as B1, C2, etc.

In the past I remember having to occasionally move focus away from and then back to the spreadsheet. I usually did this by pressing the alt key twice.

Finally, I think that LibreOffice is now up to version 6.3 and so it might be worth installing that version to see if performance improves.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 1/17/2020 5:35 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
David,

I have LibreOffice 5.1 and, following the discussions in this thread, I opened up an existing Excel worksheet in Calc but I found that NVDA could not find any cells in the open worksheet. Can you advise what steps I should take to get Calc going correctly with NVDA?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@...


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Goldfield
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 2:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alternatives to Excel

I agree with your comments regarding LibreOffice. OpenOffice Calc may be a good alternative and if people find that it's doing what they need they should certainly continue to use it. However, LibreOffice receives many more updates with bug fixes and feature additions. If there's ever a chance for accessibility in Calc and Writer to be improved we're likely to see that happening in LibreOffice before OpenOffice.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=WWW.DavidGoldfield
.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C678ed4e4aef945d8bccd08d79b3908c9%7C84df9e7f
e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637148541565198991&amp;sdata=DsDbJH
ocJ5DIFCuld%2FG%2Fs%2Bq7YLYm0mmKjAG5HRH9SjQ%3D&amp;reserved=0

On 1/15/2020 6:53 AM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,

LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates
in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.).

René







Re: Cakewalk by Band Land

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe that soft synths are accessible under reaper. You would have to though take this to the reapers list on groups.io where we discuss such things.

Take care

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On 17 Jan 2020, at 23:26, Sky Mundell wrote:

Hello. I would agree, accept what keeps me using CakeTalking with Sonar under windows 7 is the professional softsynths. I am a professional musician and I rely on softsynths to do my productions That's why I stick with it and if there were softsynths that would do things like piano, guitar, etc. for Reaper that was accessible I would gladly switch to Reaper.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 11:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cakewalk by Band Land

You want to look into Reaper. Cakewalk hasn't been accessible since
version 8.5.

https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page

The mailing list is exceptionally helpful. Some good folks on there.

https://groups.io/g/rwp

On 1/17/2020 16:28, Scott Berry wrote:

Hello there,

I was just wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with Cakewalk
by Band Land. I can't get past the onboarding part of the Cakewalk
screen. Has anyone built any add-ons for this?

Re: Cakewalk by Band Land

Sky Mundell
 

Hello. I would agree, accept what keeps me using CakeTalking with Sonar under windows 7 is the professional softsynths. I am a professional musician and I rely on softsynths to do my productions That's why I stick with it and if there were softsynths that would do things like piano, guitar, etc. for Reaper that was accessible I would gladly switch to Reaper.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 11:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cakewalk by Band Land

You want to look into Reaper. Cakewalk hasn't been accessible since
version 8.5.


https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page


The mailing list is exceptionally helpful. Some good folks on there.


https://groups.io/g/rwp

On 1/17/2020 16:28, Scott Berry wrote:
Hello there,


I was just wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with Cakewalk
by Band Land. I can't get past the onboarding part of the Cakewalk
screen. Has anyone built any add-ons for this?





Re: Cakewalk by Band Land

John Isige
 

You want to look into Reaper. Cakewalk hasn't been accessible since
version 8.5.


https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page


The mailing list is exceptionally helpful. Some good folks on there.


https://groups.io/g/rwp

On 1/17/2020 16:28, Scott Berry wrote:
Hello there,


I was just wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with Cakewalk
by Band Land.  I can't get past the onboarding part of the Cakewalk
screen.  Has anyone built any add-ons for this?




Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Gene
 

Just because a program is unsupported doesn’t mean it can’t be used.  I don’t know what the case will be with this program.  Do you purchase it or pay a price for continued use?  If it is offered as an ongoing service, it may no longer be available.  If you purchase it, and use it on your system, it will likely still be available.  Programs you purchase generally are after support stops. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty with PDF Document
 
Well thanks for that. But now I am in the age care place I don't have
funds for things like MS Office ans such.
Thanks anyway.
It's a real pity about Docuscan. It did such a good job.
Cheers
Andrea

On 18/01/2020 10:26 am, Abbie Taylor wrote:
> Shaun, DocuScan Plus was worth it while it lasted. I still use it, and
> it works well with NVDA. Unfortunately, as I understand it, Serotek
> will no longer update or support this program and System Access at the
> end of 2020. Richard can correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am.
>
> Andrea, if you're trying to open a pdf document, you can do this in
> Word 2013 and up. Simply use Word's open dialog to find the file, and
> press Enter on it like you would any other document. Word will convert
> the pdf to a docx file. NVDA reads most files pretty well this way. I
> hope this helps.
> --
> Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
> http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
> http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
> abbietaylor945@...
>



Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Sky Mundell
 

So if I’m to understand it, will that Mean SA and DocuScan be discontinued eventually?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty with PDF Document

 

Two things: DocuScan 3 has not yet been discontinued though it has not had an update for a while. MS Word 2013 can convert PDF, but it may not be readable if it is done from images rather than text. This is where DocuScan can help. Again, NVDA is not the best way to use DocuScan. Quit NVDA before starting DocuScan.

On 1/17/2020 5:26 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Shaun, DocuScan Plus was worth it while it lasted. I still use it, and it works well with NVDA. Unfortunately, as I understand it, Serotek will no longer update or support this program and System Access at the end of 2020. Richard can correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am.

Andrea, if you're trying to open a pdf document, you can do this in Word 2013 and up. Simply use Word's open dialog to find the file, and press Enter on it like you would any other document. Word will convert the pdf to a docx file. NVDA reads most files pretty well this way. I hope this helps.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Richard Wells
 

Two things: DocuScan 3 has not yet been discontinued though it has not had an update for a while. MS Word 2013 can convert PDF, but it may not be readable if it is done from images rather than text. This is where DocuScan can help. Again, NVDA is not the best way to use DocuScan. Quit NVDA before starting DocuScan.

On 1/17/2020 5:26 PM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Shaun, DocuScan Plus was worth it while it lasted. I still use it, and it works well with NVDA. Unfortunately, as I understand it, Serotek will no longer update or support this program and System Access at the end of 2020. Richard can correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am.

Andrea, if you're trying to open a pdf document, you can do this in Word 2013 and up. Simply use Word's open dialog to find the file, and press Enter on it like you would any other document. Word will convert the pdf to a docx file. NVDA reads most files pretty well this way. I hope this helps.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Andrea Sherry
 

Well thanks for that. But now I am in the age care place I don't have funds for things like MS Office ans such.
Thanks anyway.
It's a real pity about Docuscan. It did such a good job.
Cheers
Andrea

On 18/01/2020 10:26 am, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Shaun, DocuScan Plus was worth it while it lasted. I still use it, and it works well with NVDA. Unfortunately, as I understand it, Serotek will no longer update or support this program and System Access at the end of 2020. Richard can correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am.

Andrea, if you're trying to open a pdf document, you can do this in Word 2013 and up. Simply use Word's open dialog to find the file, and press Enter on it like you would any other document. Word will convert the pdf to a docx file. NVDA reads most files pretty well this way. I hope this helps.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

Re: Difficulty with PDF Document

Abbie Taylor
 

Shaun, DocuScan Plus was worth it while it lasted. I still use it, and it works well with NVDA. Unfortunately, as I understand it, Serotek will no longer update or support this program and System Access at the end of 2020. Richard can correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I am.

Andrea, if you're trying to open a pdf document, you can do this in Word 2013 and up. Simply use Word's open dialog to find the file, and press Enter on it like you would any other document. Word will convert the pdf to a docx file. NVDA reads most files pretty well this way. I hope this helps.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...

Cakewalk by Band Land

Scott Berry
 

Hello there,


I was just wondering if anyone has had a chance to play with Cakewalk by Band Land.  I can't get past the onboarding part of the Cakewalk screen.  Has anyone built any add-ons for this?