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Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

 

How do I access the mobile version of the Twitter website?

Re: A question about Vocalizer

Jesse Farquharson
 

Hello Rui. Can you confirm that Tiflotecnia's version of Vocalizer is NVDA 2019.3 compatible? Upon downloading the driver I was told it was incompatible.

Thanks.

Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?

Howard Traxler
 

Hi folks,
I have a desktop keyboard but find it more convenient to set my NVDA to laptop.

When I try to use the synth settings ring, the NVDA plus shift plus control with left or right do nothing.  And when I do the NVDA plus shift plus control with up or down, I can make it faster but not slower.  It keeps getting faster by fives and gets so fast that I can't understand it.  To get it back to normal, I have to use JAWS or Narrator.  This is a bit disconcerting.

Howard

On 4/25/2020 6:59 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
thanks Joseph. BTW, hope you can enjoy the DAISY book I uploaded to NV_Access.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 4/22/2020 3:36 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,

Called synth settings ring, and on desktop layout, Control+NVDA+arrow keys (left/right to move between settings, up/down arrow to change settings).

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:34 PM
*To:* NVDA discussion <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?

Use the voice ring, nvda control shift left right and up down arrows, I think. I'm in laptop mode but consult the quick start guide to know the keyboard commands for the voice ring. I don't know if this is what it is called in the manual but hope that helps a bit.

Blessings and happy Wednesday

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>

to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum>] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffppodcast> YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 22 Apr 2020, at 15:13, Curtis Delzer wrote:

    Hi, and thanks for replying. In 2 other screen readers I have there
    are hot keys for raising and lowering the speed of speech, without
    going into menus, etc.
    How about NVDA? If so, I just plain missed them.
    --     Curtis Delzer
    HS
    K 6 V F O
    Rialto, CA

    curtis@... <mailto:curtis@...>

Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?

Curtis Delzer
 

thanks Joseph. BTW, hope you can enjoy the DAISY book I uploaded to NV_Access.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 4/22/2020 3:36 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Called synth settings ring, and on desktop layout, Control+NVDA+arrow keys (left/right to move between settings, up/down arrow to change settings).
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:34 PM
*To:* NVDA discussion <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?
Use the voice ring, nvda control shift left right and up down arrows, I think. I'm in laptop mode but consult the quick start guide to know the keyboard commands for the voice ring. I don't know if this is what it is called in the manual but hope that helps a bit.
Blessings and happy Wednesday
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>
to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>
Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum>] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffppodcast> YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>
On 22 Apr 2020, at 15:13, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi, and thanks for replying. In 2 other screen readers I have there
are hot keys for raising and lowering the speed of speech, without
going into menus, etc.
How about NVDA? If so, I just plain missed them.
--
Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA
curtis@... <mailto:curtis@...>

Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?

Curtis Delzer
 

Hi Sarah, as per usual, you are, as they say in some British circles and others, "spot on."
THANK YOU

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 4/22/2020 3:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Use the voice ring, nvda control shift left right and up down arrows, I think. I'm in laptop mode but consult the quick start guide to know the keyboard commands for the voice ring. I don't know if this is what it is called in the manual but hope that helps a bit.
Blessings and happy Wednesday
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>
to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>
Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum>] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffppodcast> YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>
On 22 Apr 2020, at 15:13, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Hi, and thanks for replying. In 2 other screen readers I have there
are hot keys for raising and lowering the speed of speech, without
going into menus, etc.
How about NVDA? If so, I just plain missed them.
--
Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA
curtis@... <mailto:curtis@...>

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

 

The reply privately button isn't working on the web interface for some reason. I'll reboot my computer later. Anyway, the below guide will explain what it is in far better detail, but it's basically a more open and decentralized Twitter, connected to the fediverse. It's like a million different twitters all separate, but connected to each other. It's like email, but with social networks. So, if a TW Blue for Mastodon were created, people could use whatever client they wanted to talk to others in another server, AKA, instance. Anyway, read the below. Start at chapter 1.

https://www.starshipchangeling.net/mastodon/

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, OK I took a look and now I know what it is and not of much interest to me just now but thanks, So You do not have to reply to my last mail.

On 25/04/2020 00:59, Robert Kingett wrote:
Looks like TW Blue is working on Mastodon support. <https://github.com/manuelcortez/TWBlue> Ignore my closed pull request. I was trying to suggest Mastodon support as a suggestion and saw they were experimenting with Mastodon.
Here's a screen reader guide for Mastodon <https://www.starshipchangeling.net/mastodon/> in case anybody missed my earlier message.

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I will take a look at the link You gave, but can You tell me off list if You want what is mastodon?

On 25/04/2020 00:59, Robert Kingett wrote:
Looks like TW Blue is working on Mastodon support. <https://github.com/manuelcortez/TWBlue> Ignore my closed pull request. I was trying to suggest Mastodon support as a suggestion and saw they were experimenting with Mastodon.
Here's a screen reader guide for Mastodon <https://www.starshipchangeling.net/mastodon/> in case anybody missed my earlier message.

Re: accessing mail headers in Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hello:

Try pressing control + end to move to the end of the message.  Then try tabbing.  It still may take 3 or 4 tab presses, but I usually get to the headers that way.


On 4/25/2020 2:28 PM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
Hello guys,
I cannot access the mail headers of the newsletters I receive in thunderbird. In the message, when I tab, it goes to several links inside the message itself and never lands in the header section, where FROM and SUBJECT information is given. In contrast, headers of other normal mails are easily accessible by pressing the TAB key several times. Please help. --
Regards,
Sociohack

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Re: Using a dual boot system with NVDA

John Isige
 

You'd have to learn stuff again, but Reaper with OSARA is pretty much
the successor to Sonar with CakeTalking. There's a helpful mailing list
and everything.


http://reaperaccessibility.com


The group/mailing list is under "useful resources".

On 4/25/2020 12:01 PM, Fresh Start wrote:

Thank you very much Joe!

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Joseph Lee
*Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:00 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

Hi,

No, NVDA will not work at the operating system selection screen.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Fresh Start
*Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:34 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

I’ve never used a dual system boot on the same computer.  But my
situation makes this necessary.

Will NVDA let me hear the choice when the computer gets up to that
point?  Thanks for any help in advance.

I will be using Windows seven and ten on the same computer. Reason is
two pieces of very much used recording software won’t work in Windows ten.

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

mk360
 

Yeah, that is. I need to disable NVDA navigation keys or change to focus mode to use the web interphase commands, I need to wait to NVDA to detect new tweets because these are loaded has I'm moving on the page, sometimes the focus moves... not all the time, and I'm a experienced user so I know when the focus can change and use commands to prevent it... but that takes one second... that second don't exist on Twitter clients, and that is the reason why some people prefer these than the web interphase. Obviously, if we don't have any good client available, we can use the web, I prefer Open Tween but is not working so I'm using TWBlue, and if not, probably I'll use Twitterific from iOS, but, that is... someone asked about a client probably because he/she don't like the access via web...


Regards,

mk.

El 25/04/2020 a las 15:10, Gene escribió:
that may not be the case for sighted users.  The slower operation may be caused by the time it takes for browse mode to accommodate the changes. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: mk360
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA
 

Nope, is not the case, my ISP is working fine in these scenarios. I'm not saying that Twitter works slower than other webs, for example Facebook, because you are right, Twitter works better in these scenarios. I'm saying That the web interphase is Slower than twitter clients. For example in Open Tween you can browse the timelines with down or app arrow, and is read when you press... you has all options pressing applications or key commands... I know the web is accessible, but never will be faster than a good accessible client, and the same is applicable to TWBlue that is faster, and has commands to use the interphase from any window.

 

Regards,

mk.

El 25/04/2020 a las 14:36, Akshaya Choudhary escribió:
Sluggishness experienced with the twitter website might be because  of bandwidth  provided by the intrnet provider. I'm personally very impressed with the accessibility and efficiency of twitter website. It works much better compared to Facebook and Reddit. I can navigate it with the efficiency of navigating any accessible website on FireFox.

Regards

Re: Using a dual boot system with NVDA

Fresh Start
 

I will try them as you suggested.  I usually turn to this list for wise recommendations.  Thanks again.  I will let you know how things go.  It will be about a week.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 01:00 PM, Fresh Start wrote:

After talking to Bill McCann yesterday he said those two programs will no longer with Win10 because the “Windows Classic view” feature is removed.

Which I simply do not buy.  I have programs that date from the XP era that will still run under Windows 10 (all of those require compatibility mode).

As I said in private correspondence, I have yet to encounter a single Win7 era program that will not run perfectly well under Windows 10, and I really doubt those two are any exception.  I'd certainly be trying them on a Windows 10 system before accepting this assertion.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

Gene
 

that may not be the case for sighted users.  The slower operation may be caused by the time it takes for browse mode to accommodate the changes. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: mk360
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA
 

Nope, is not the case, my ISP is working fine in these scenarios. I'm not saying that Twitter works slower than other webs, for example Facebook, because you are right, Twitter works better in these scenarios. I'm saying That the web interphase is Slower than twitter clients. For example in Open Tween you can browse the timelines with down or app arrow, and is read when you press... you has all options pressing applications or key commands... I know the web is accessible, but never will be faster than a good accessible client, and the same is applicable to TWBlue that is faster, and has commands to use the interphase from any window.

 

Regards,

mk.

El 25/04/2020 a las 14:36, Akshaya Choudhary escribió:
Sluggishness experienced with the twitter website might be because  of bandwidth  provided by the intrnet provider. I'm personally very impressed with the accessibility and efficiency of twitter website. It works much better compared to Facebook and Reddit. I can navigate it with the efficiency of navigating any accessible website on FireFox.

Regards

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

mk360
 

Nope, is not the case, my ISP is working fine in these scenarios. I'm not saying that Twitter works slower than other webs, for example Facebook, because you are right, Twitter works better in these scenarios. I'm saying That the web interphase is Slower than twitter clients. For example in Open Tween you can browse the timelines with down or app arrow, and is read when you press... you has all options pressing applications or key commands... I know the web is accessible, but never will be faster than a good accessible client, and the same is applicable to TWBlue that is faster, and has commands to use the interphase from any window.


Regards,

mk.

El 25/04/2020 a las 14:36, Akshaya Choudhary escribió:
Sluggishness experienced with the twitter website might be because  of bandwidth  provided by the intrnet provider. I'm personally very impressed with the accessibility and efficiency of twitter website. It works much better compared to Facebook and Reddit. I can navigate it with the efficiency of navigating any accessible website on FireFox.

Regards

Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Sluggishness experienced with the twitter website might be because  of bandwidth  provided by the intrnet provider. I'm personally very impressed with the accessibility and efficiency of twitter website. It works much better compared to Facebook and Reddit. I can navigate it with the efficiency of navigating any accessible website on FireFox.

Regards

accessing mail headers in Thunderbird

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello guys,
I cannot access the mail headers of the newsletters I receive in thunderbird. In the message, when I tab, it goes to several links inside the message itself and never lands in the header section, where FROM and SUBJECT information is given. In contrast, headers of other normal mails are easily accessible by pressing the TAB key several times. Please help. --
Regards,
Sociohack

Re: Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

Hi,

Audacity might be an interesting alternative. But first, as Brian pointed out, try using those two programs under Windows 10 (I think what Bill might be referring to is classic theme, which was the recommended mode for screen reader users as late as early 2010’s, but not anymore).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fresh Start
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

Never used virtual machines.  I am using Sonar 8.5 and Cake Talk.  After talking to Bill McCann yesterday he said those two programs will no longer with Win10 because the “Windows Classic view” feature is removed.

His comment was, “Well that ws a great run but the program is history.”  Sad since  I put around $5,000.00 in to the programs since late 1990’s.  I am a retired totally blind assistive tech instructor.  I loved Sonar and Cake Talk because they allowed for multi-track recording.  Then when saving, Sonar mixed the tracks together In to one file.  Of course you could make any changes to each track before saving the complete package.  It worked in our recording studio we had at the school and in my recording studio at home.  I do use Sound Forge weekly for church podcasts and podcast for the educational center where I work once a week.  But I don’t know how or if it is even possible to do multi-track recordings with SF.

 

In Sonar, I could have a track of music playing and a vocalist would be singing.  I’ve added  upt to 16 tracks in Sonar.  Then saving puts all together as explained above.

Sorry for such a long email.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

Out of curiosity, what software do you use that doesn't work in Windows 10?

 

To answer your question, NVDA will not come up early enough in the boot process for you to see the boot choices. Have you considered virtual machines?

 


 

On 4/25/2020 12:34 PM, Fresh Start wrote:

I’ve never used a dual system boot on the same computer.  But my situation makes this necessary.

Will NVDA let me hear the choice when the computer gets up to that point?  Thanks for any help in advance. 

I will be using Windows seven and ten on the same computer.  Reason is two pieces of very much used recording software won’t work in Windows ten.

Re: Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 01:00 PM, Fresh Start wrote:
After talking to Bill McCann yesterday he said those two programs will no longer with Win10 because the “Windows Classic view” feature is removed.
Which I simply do not buy.  I have programs that date from the XP era that will still run under Windows 10 (all of those require compatibility mode).

As I said in private correspondence, I have yet to encounter a single Win7 era program that will not run perfectly well under Windows 10, and I really doubt those two are any exception.  I'd certainly be trying them on a Windows 10 system before accepting this assertion.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

Re: Using a dual boot system with NVDA

Fresh Start
 

Thank you very much Joe!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

Hi,

No, NVDA will not work at the operating system selection screen.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fresh Start
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

I’ve never used a dual system boot on the same computer.  But my situation makes this necessary.

Will NVDA let me hear the choice when the computer gets up to that point?  Thanks for any help in advance. 

I will be using Windows seven and ten on the same computer.  Reason is two pieces of very much used recording software won’t work in Windows ten.

Re: Using a dual boot system with NVDA

Fresh Start
 

Never used virtual machines.  I am using Sonar 8.5 and Cake Talk.  After talking to Bill McCann yesterday he said those two programs will no longer with Win10 because the “Windows Classic view” feature is removed.

His comment was, “Well that ws a great run but the program is history.”  Sad since  I put around $5,000.00 in to the programs since late 1990’s.  I am a retired totally blind assistive tech instructor.  I loved Sonar and Cake Talk because they allowed for multi-track recording.  Then when saving, Sonar mixed the tracks together In to one file.  Of course you could make any changes to each track before saving the complete package.  It worked in our recording studio we had at the school and in my recording studio at home.  I do use Sound Forge weekly for church podcasts and podcast for the educational center where I work once a week.  But I don’t know how or if it is even possible to do multi-track recordings with SF.

 

In Sonar, I could have a track of music playing and a vocalist would be singing.  I’ve added  upt to 16 tracks in Sonar.  Then saving puts all together as explained above.

Sorry for such a long email.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using a dual boot system with NVDA

 

Out of curiosity, what software do you use that doesn't work in Windows 10?

 

To answer your question, NVDA will not come up early enough in the boot process for you to see the boot choices. Have you considered virtual machines?

 


 

On 4/25/2020 12:34 PM, Fresh Start wrote:

I’ve never used a dual system boot on the same computer.  But my situation makes this necessary.

Will NVDA let me hear the choice when the computer gets up to that point?  Thanks for any help in advance. 

I will be using Windows seven and ten on the same computer.  Reason is two pieces of very much used recording software won’t work in Windows ten.