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Re: NVDA and Firefox

David Griffith
 

This also happened to me and I dealt with it by installing Waterfox at that time as a slimmed down version of FireFox with at the time better accessibility.

I have now pretty much moved to using Brave full time now so I am not quite sure of the full status of Waterfox. I relaunched it just now and it appears to be still OK.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: 13 February 2020 13:09
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Firefox

Hi Everyone

I use Windows 7, NVDA 2019.3.1 and Firefox 68.5.0ESR. It works fine on
one machine.

I have just installed NVDA on another Windows 7 machine and, when I load
Firefox, it says the title of the page and then keeps saying "Unknown".
This machine had a previous version of Firefox which was updated today
to 68.5.0ESR.
I created a portable version of NVDA using the first machine and
installed it on the second one.

Can anyone advise me how to make it work on the second machine?

Thanks

pele West

Re: Remote 2.3 released.

Daniel Hawkins
 

Hello guys, while we are talking about this subject, I have not yet updated to 2019.3.1 just yet. But the current version I am using, when I hit F11, it says controlling remote machine, then i press F11 again, it says controling local machine. when I hear remote and local, my hering is not the best so I sometimes have to press F11 repeadly to understand it. Is there a way to change that when it say something else, like the older method when it say Remote  or Local only?
Daniel Hawkins



On Feb 12, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Modern doesn't mean now in that context.  it means writing with certain characteristics, thhough they may vary, but Stravinsky would be considered modern and Rite of Spring was composed early in the Twentieth Century. 
 
Modern literature would refer to a good deal of writing in the Twentieth century. 
 
In the context of computer programs, which is a different context with different usage, modern NVDA implies that older versions are far behind the times and inferior.  Not necessarily, depending on how the user uses the version or versions . 
 
I still use a quite old version of NVDA because I don't need a newer one with the programs and Windows versions I use and it does certain things more smoothly, such as how it works with my e-mail program.  I don't consider it not to be modern.  It is an old version, which has very different connotations. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message ------
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I like modern better. Youhave modden classical music not current classical music for example, moddern meaning, in this case, now.

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On 12 Feb 2020, at 9:12, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
"Current" makes more sense... at least for now. There will come a time when we will update to a newer Python 3.x release, and that'll change what "current" means by then.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
I see where "modern" comes from, but wonder whether "current" might be more appropriate. "Modern" being preciously relative, "current" reflects the present, i.e., here and now.
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
That's an interesting point. I think part of the reason for labeling it that way is due to Python 2 versus Python 3 - the former is ancient now, and the latter is modern.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?

On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new
NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/



Re: Latest update to nvda Did not Even Sorta' Work.

Martin McCormick
 

"Brian Vogel" <@britechguy> writes:
Well, you're still running Windows 10 Version 1809, which is a problem to
begin with. Get yourself updated to 1909 - pronto, and see if that makes
a difference.
Thank you. I believed the system that always told me I
was up-to-date. I laugh a bit after all, this is an election
year in the US so that's what I get for being gullible. That's
the reason why I printed out some of the systeminfo output.

*Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10
ISO file* (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK
)
The path I used to start the upgrade which is chugging
along as I write this was to go to settings and clicking "update
and security"

It wanted for several minutes to keep checking 1809 and
then, for some reason, it suddenly went to update-assistant and
did what an article I had found on line said should happen.

I also thought 1909 was the paid version. So I figured
all the updates would keep increasing the build number after 1809
which would stay the same.

As I send this message, It's on the third progress bar
which is creeping along so it looks like it will take a while to
finish as the documentation warns.

This brings me to a nvda question.

Is there a way to listen to all the messages that are
produced so that one can come back later and hear it all and
check for complaints and or progress statements?

Martin

Re: Question on NvSpeech Player for NVDA 2019.3.1

 

I wanted to know this too, but it doesn't look like it's compatible yet, looking at the GitHub page. I actually really liked this synth more than eSpeak.

NVDA and Firefox

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

I use Windows 7, NVDA 2019.3.1 and Firefox 68.5.0ESR. It works fine on
one machine.

I have just installed NVDA on another Windows 7 machine and, when I load
Firefox, it says the title of the page and then keeps saying "Unknown".
This machine had a previous version of Firefox which was updated today
to 68.5.0ESR.
I created a portable version of NVDA using the first machine and
installed it on the second one.

Can anyone advise me how to make it work on the second machine?

Thanks

pele West

Re: My addons collection

abdul muhamin
 

Hi, thanks for the info, I’ve just gathered all the addons which were available on my drive, I’ve deleted some, only because they are no use or discontinued.

By the way, updated result, working82. Non working, 60

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Adriani Botez
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 3:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My addons collection

 

Hello,

 

oh good job on gathering this list. However, I see also some ilegal addons in there (i.e. eloquence and cracked Akapella or Vocalizer voices). If you want them to work, you have to download them from official sources like CodeFactory or Tiflotecnia. Due to NVDA being free of charge, I guess it is reasonable and also respectful to at least spend some cash on useful things such as a synthesizer which in fach isnot very expensive.

 

Other addons like Sentencenav, Browsernav, Bluetooth audio, TextNav etc are already uptodate but the author did not request to update them officially. You can contact him directly or you can download the addons here:

https://github.com/mltony?tab=repositories

 

Regarding Access solutions addon and the NVDA store addon, as Yannick already says, the addon is discontinued as well as other addons like i.e. console timer (not needed anymore), screen curtain (not needed anymore) or Vital Book Shelf (not needed anymore).

 

For addons from access solutions, please feel free to contact them if you want the addons to work further. This is valid for all the other addons that do not work.

By the way, audio themes 3d is working, the addon can be found on the official addons website under the development section.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von abdul muhamin
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 22:25
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] My addons collection

 

Hi all, since morning, I’m trying to separate all of the NVDA addons that are available on my pc, my result is as follows:

Total: 146 addons.

Working: 73.

Non-working: 73.

Means 50 percent of my addons have been effected due to the migration of the NVDA from python 2 to python3.

I hope that these addons will working again, you can get my addons collection and check them your self.

here

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Re: NVDA2019.3.1 with new Driver Vocalizer menu doesn't show

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads


Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 11:54 de 13/02/2020, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

Let’s try installing the voices first from the right place. Maybe I’m not getting them from where they should? Let me know, then the right page since I deleted their installers, thinking I wouldn’t need them anymore. I used to have the English and Spanish Compac voices packages. I’ve Googled, but I get to the version2 page, instead of the version3 ones. Thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 13 feb 2020, a la(s) 5:41 a.m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:



Hello Gerardo!


Contact me to make a remote session to see what's happening in that machine...


Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 03:47 de 13/02/2020, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

I installed the driver Rui shared with the list, to fix the autolanguage switching problem reported, hoping that it’d show the Vocalizer Menu option within NVDA 2019.3.1, but no go! It’s installed OK I think; when I startNVDA, it says that It needs at least one voice to get the AddON to work. I installed the Portuguese and Spanish, as well as the English packages, but still no Vocalizer menu shows, nor does it show the Vocalizer engine when going through the synths with NVDA+Control+s. Any hints what’s going on?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Jacob

 

I tend to agree, on all counts.


Quentin madesome suggestions, I wil try them out.

 

Have a nice day

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Christo, my guess is this comes down to it not being that NVDA is causing the hassles here?

 

But, on the other hand, it's possible that this could relate to a form of dictionary entry that's changed across versions, or something, relating to different voice implementations?

Who knows - not me.

 

But, on that note, just added a voice-specific dictionary entry for an MS voice to pronounce e-acute as just that = E acute, and, it seemed to work when I then typed the character, while working with MS George?

 

And, on a total side note, I, on the other hand, have always preferred robotic voices when it comes to technological interaction...LOL!


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 01:26 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi

 

At the time I posted my question regarding the ASCII-code, I used the one core voices. I tried it with SAPPI5 as well, and they also don’t sy anything else but, eg, e.

 

I accept that ESpeak NG might say the correct letter, but, call me full of nonsense, I haven’t found one of the ESpek NG voices that satisfy me.

 

I used to use Eloquence.

 

I suppose, if I don’t want to use the ESpeak voices, I just have to bare with what I have.

 

It would be nice if the NVDA developers could try to solve this problem in a next upgrade.

 

Regarding “copy and paste:, wouldn’t it be possible to make that add-on a built-in feature of NVDA?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

 

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.

 

What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 

Re: Problem with NVDA while reading documents

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Make sure ! Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available" is not checked in the advanced settings of NVDA.

Regards,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2020 13:02
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA while reading documents

Hi all,
I am using the latest version of NVDA. Today, I was reading and doing work in some documents but when suddenly I switched my documents by pressing shift+tab, my nvda crashed. It was not reading the document and no matter what I pressed it did not stop speaking. After restarting it, the problem occurred again. This time I restarted NVDA in debug mode and got the following message during that problem:
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (13:02:41.398) - MainThread (4820):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311748, objectID 109 and childID 0: [WinError -2147467259] Unspecified error This problem is continuously happening though fortunately not so frequently. Can someone help me with this?

--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Jacob Kruger
 

Christo, my guess is this comes down to it not being that NVDA is causing the hassles here?


But, on the other hand, it's possible that this could relate to a form of dictionary entry that's changed across versions, or something, relating to different voice implementations?

Who knows - not me.


But, on that note, just added a voice-specific dictionary entry for an MS voice to pronounce e-acute as just that = E acute, and, it seemed to work when I then typed the character, while working with MS George?


And, on a total side note, I, on the other hand, have always preferred robotic voices when it comes to technological interaction...LOL!


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 01:26 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi

 

At the time I posted my question regarding the ASCII-code, I used the one core voices. I tried it with SAPPI5 as well, and they also don’t sy anything else but, eg, e.

 

I accept that ESpeak NG might say the correct letter, but, call me full of nonsense, I haven’t found one of the ESpek NG voices that satisfy me.

 

I used to use Eloquence.

 

I suppose, if I don’t want to use the ESpeak voices, I just have to bare with what I have.

 

It would be nice if the NVDA developers could try to solve this problem in a next upgrade.

 

Regarding “copy and paste:, wouldn’t it be possible to make that add-on a built-in feature of NVDA?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

 

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.

 

What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Quentin

 

Thanks for all the answers.

 

I think that I will have to change the pronunciation in NVDA.


thanks again

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

You can get Eloquence for NVDA, which works with 2019.3:  https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

 

I must admit, I don't know how it handles accented characters etc, but you can try the demo and check.

 

The fact that it works with eSpeak NG and not OneCore, indicates it is an issue with the OneCore voices rather than NVDA itself.  I'd suggest raising that with the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/disability-answer-desk

 

I just tried it with Microsoft SAPI 5 voices, and they read é as "e with acute".

 

If it is a specific set of characters, the other thing you can do is open NVDA's "punctuation / Symbol pronunciation" settings (NVDA+N, then P for preferences, then choose "punctuation / Symbol pronunciation", add an entry for each character, and what you would like to have said for it.

 

Re ClipSpeak, the reason we haven't added it in to core, is primarily that there is no definitive way to know that something has been cut, copied, pasted, etc.  The way the add-on works is by checking what else is going on, what is selected or on the clipboard now etc, and making an educated guess.  It does a fairly good job, but it is still a guess, and we'd rather not present something we are not sure about.  I'm also not sure if there are any performance impacts from the add-on.  I didn't notice any last time I used it, but I have a fairly fast machine and didn't rigorously test it.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:26 PM Christo Vorster <christo.vorster.klavierstem@...> wrote:

Hi

 

At the time I posted my question regarding the ASCII-code, I used the one core voices. I tried it with SAPPI5 as well, and they also don’t sy anything else but, eg, e.

 

I accept that ESpeak NG might say the correct letter, but, call me full of nonsense, I haven’t found one of the ESpek NG voices that satisfy me.

 

I used to use Eloquence.

 

I suppose, if I don’t want to use the ESpeak voices, I just have to bare with what I have.

 

It would be nice if the NVDA developers could try to solve this problem in a next upgrade.

 

Regarding “copy and paste:, wouldn’t it be possible to make that add-on a built-in feature of NVDA?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

 

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.

 

What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 

Problem with NVDA while reading documents

Vaibhav Bhandari
 

Hi all,
I am using the latest version of NVDA. Today, I was reading and doing
work in some documents but when suddenly I switched my documents by
pressing shift+tab, my nvda crashed. It was not reading the document
and no matter what I pressed it did not stop speaking. After
restarting it, the problem occurred again. This time I restarted NVDA
in debug mode and got the following message during that problem:
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (13:02:41.398) -
MainThread (4820):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1311748, objectID 109 and
childID 0: [WinError -2147467259] Unspecified error
This problem is continuously happening though fortunately not so
frequently. Can someone help me with this?

--
Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari

Re: NVDA2019.3.1 with new Driver Vocalizer menu doesn't show

Gerardo Corripio
 

Let’s try installing the voices first from the right place. Maybe I’m not getting them from where they should? Let me know, then the right page since I deleted their installers, thinking I wouldn’t need them anymore. I used to have the English and Spanish Compac voices packages. I’ve Googled, but I get to the version2 page, instead of the version3 ones. Thanks for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 13 feb 2020, a la(s) 5:41 a.m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:



Hello Gerardo!


Contact me to make a remote session to see what's happening in that machine...


Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 03:47 de 13/02/2020, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

I installed the driver Rui shared with the list, to fix the autolanguage switching problem reported, hoping that it’d show the Vocalizer Menu option within NVDA 2019.3.1, but no go! It’s installed OK I think; when I startNVDA, it says that It needs at least one voice to get the AddON to work. I installed the Portuguese and Spanish, as well as the English packages, but still no Vocalizer menu shows, nor does it show the Vocalizer engine when going through the synths with NVDA+Control+s. Any hints what’s going on?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Quentin Christensen
 

You can get Eloquence for NVDA, which works with 2019.3:  https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

I must admit, I don't know how it handles accented characters etc, but you can try the demo and check.

The fact that it works with eSpeak NG and not OneCore, indicates it is an issue with the OneCore voices rather than NVDA itself.  I'd suggest raising that with the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/disability-answer-desk

I just tried it with Microsoft SAPI 5 voices, and they read é as "e with acute".

If it is a specific set of characters, the other thing you can do is open NVDA's "punctuation / Symbol pronunciation" settings (NVDA+N, then P for preferences, then choose "punctuation / Symbol pronunciation", add an entry for each character, and what you would like to have said for it.

Re ClipSpeak, the reason we haven't added it in to core, is primarily that there is no definitive way to know that something has been cut, copied, pasted, etc.  The way the add-on works is by checking what else is going on, what is selected or on the clipboard now etc, and making an educated guess.  It does a fairly good job, but it is still a guess, and we'd rather not present something we are not sure about.  I'm also not sure if there are any performance impacts from the add-on.  I didn't notice any last time I used it, but I have a fairly fast machine and didn't rigorously test it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:26 PM Christo Vorster <christo.vorster.klavierstem@...> wrote:

Hi

 

At the time I posted my question regarding the ASCII-code, I used the one core voices. I tried it with SAPPI5 as well, and they also don’t sy anything else but, eg, e.

 

I accept that ESpeak NG might say the correct letter, but, call me full of nonsense, I haven’t found one of the ESpek NG voices that satisfy me.

 

I used to use Eloquence.

 

I suppose, if I don’t want to use the ESpeak voices, I just have to bare with what I have.

 

It would be nice if the NVDA developers could try to solve this problem in a next upgrade.

 

Regarding “copy and paste:, wouldn’t it be possible to make that add-on a built-in feature of NVDA?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

 

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.

 

What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA2019.3.1 with new Driver Vocalizer menu doesn't show

Rui Fontes
 

Hello Gerardo!


Contact me to make a remote session to see what's happening in that machine...


Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 03:47 de 13/02/2020, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

I installed the driver Rui shared with the list, to fix the autolanguage switching problem reported, hoping that it’d show the Vocalizer Menu option within NVDA 2019.3.1, but no go! It’s installed OK I think; when I startNVDA, it says that It needs at least one voice to get the AddON to work. I installed the Portuguese and Spanish, as well as the English packages, but still no Vocalizer menu shows, nor does it show the Vocalizer engine when going through the synths with NVDA+Control+s. Any hints what’s going on?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Glad to hear the automatic language switching is working alright again, since is one of the best features of ou Vocalizer!


The number of activations is not an error... I have made the reset to have consideration to the number of times you have make a reset on the activation...


Now, let's solve the problem of verifying the license!


Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 08:10 de 13/02/2020, nutkittirat@... escreveu:

Hello Rui

I have tried the latest driver that you given, the switching language and no speech has been fixed Vocalizer is working now. But I have found a bug that I cannot do anything with my license from the menu again. I can't delete, can't check activation count and can't change my credential. I think the add-on can't talk to the server.
Note: I think it has some mistake about my activation. I'm using 1 activation on my laptop but when I checked the activation count before upgrade it said that I have 3 activations left. So I have 4 activation now include in my laptop. I would like to tell you to fixed that.

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Christo Vorster
 

Hi

 

At the time I posted my question regarding the ASCII-code, I used the one core voices. I tried it with SAPPI5 as well, and they also don’t sy anything else but, eg, e.

 

I accept that ESpeak NG might say the correct letter, but, call me full of nonsense, I haven’t found one of the ESpek NG voices that satisfy me.

 

I used to use Eloquence.

 

I suppose, if I don’t want to use the ESpeak voices, I just have to bare with what I have.

 

It would be nice if the NVDA developers could try to solve this problem in a next upgrade.

 

Regarding “copy and paste:, wouldn’t it be possible to make that add-on a built-in feature of NVDA?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2020 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

 

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.

 

What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).

 

Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 

Re: Youtube - how to navigate

Gene
 

I've looked at this after not having done so for a long time.  I don't know how it is for sighted person, but for a blind person, having two settings buttons is just plain bad design.  You can change speeds, though.
Start something playing.
Move to the top of the page. 
Press b for button.  If the volume is too loud, listen for a pause button and press the space bar.
Whether you pause play or not, continue to down arrow.  Don't work with the button that just says settings.  Continue to press b until you get to a button that says submenu settings. 
Press the space bar to open the submenu.
Down arrow until you get to a button that says play speed.  Press the space bar on that button.
Now, continuing to down arrow will show you the options.  there are buttons for different speeds.  Press the space bar on the one you want.
 
In other words, in the now commmon fanatical quest to save screen space and make everything as small as possible, you have to expand item after item to get to what you want.  Everything, no matter how inconvenient, must change to accommodate the small screens of portable devices, no matter how many things you have to expand to get to what you want. 
 
Also, don't worry about whether you hear expanded in this area.  Everything or almost everything says expanded whether it is or not.  If you haven't expanded something and it shoule be because you don't see what you should in this area, expand it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

find the button that says settings and press the space bar.  You will see controls for speeding up the video.  I haven't done this for a long time but that is how it was and it likely still is. 
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

Thank you for all of that but I want to learn how to speed up the playback of YouTube videos using NVDA
Are used to put them into VLC media player But if the YouTube is part of a playlist VLC media player no longer seems to play it
I liked that player because I could speed up and slow down the playback pause and do all sorts of media type things with the video Stream
I’ll talk to sighted people and they say that there is a way of doing that on the normal YouTube videos screen that comes up But I haven’t yet worked out how to do it with NVDA by the way I’m using Mozilla Firefox And Windows 10 with all updates applied
Kind regards Ian


On 13 Feb 2020, at 4:15 pm, Easwaran Chinraj <easwarchinraj@...> wrote:


Dear sir,
First of all my apologies for my mistakeful English. I am using Youtube daily. So, please read the following fully.

If you feel the following is confusing, I have mentioned the very very basic style of navigation at the bottom of this reply which I was used when I was started to use YouTube with NVDA.

Open a browser and press Ctrl + L and type or copy and paste the below url.

youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

and press enter key. It will open the subscriptions page to see the videos from the channels you have subscribed.

After the page loads, press D until you hear Main Landmark Today Heading Level 2

This puts you in the main part of the webpage.

Then pressing 3 key will help you to read the title of the first video and again pressing 3 key will read the next and so on. Pressing Shift + 3 will work in vice versa (reverse).

After moving the navigation to the video you like, press space bar key or Enter key to play the video. A new page is loaded and the selected video will start to play in the next page.

The Title of the video which is currently playing will be in Heading 1 level. So, pressing 1 or Shift + 1 will tells you the current playing video's title.

To jump to the current playing video's player controls, press D or Shift +d until NVDA says Main Landmark. Then pressing the tab key will change the controls to the slider, pause, mute, next, settings, etc. Shift + tab for moving vice versa. (Or B key to navigate by buttons such as play, pause, next, mute, etc.)

You said "When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...".

For that see the following:
Pressing 3 will tell the title of the suggested videos (which is on the right side) one by one. Shift + 3 for vice versa.

Pressing Enter or Space bar will play that video.

If you feel the above was confusing, simply press H key or Shift + H key to navigate by headings (video titles). D or Shift D for Landmarks, B or Shift B for buttons such as play, pause, action, like, dislike etc.

Hope I haven't confused you much and I hope it will surely help you.

If you have any other questions, feel free to reply me (your brother). Thank you sir.

With affection
Easwar Chinraj

Re: questions for Newest nvda update.

Quentin Christensen
 

Also, make sure you have restarted the computer after updating.  Sometimes random things misbehave in that interim time.

With Clipspeak, it has been updated, you can download the new version from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:29 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Christo, am going to ask a silly question here, since just tested out exactly that, and, it worked fine.


What voice engine are you using?  Ask that, since, the MS one core voices will just read out, for example, the letter E with an accent on it as E, but, using eSpeak-NG, it tells me the difference between e and é (that second one is e-acute, typed right now using alt + numpad-130).


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2020-02-13 11:17 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi List

 

I have another problem since I upgraded to NVDA 2019.3.

 

In Afrikaans we regularly make use of the ASCII codes for ‘accents’, ‘pounds’, ‘euros’ and much more.

 

To access the ASCII codes, we use the ALT-key plus the numeric keypad. I did everything, as I usually did, turned on the numeric-keypad, held down ALT and typed the number sequence.

 

Nothing happened. I tried it several times, with no success. Previously NVDA read the coded letter.

 

I also, previously wrote regarding the addon announcing copy and paste. I tried to update the addon, with no success. Can someone please hel?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] questions for Newest nvda update.

 

And, with regard to NVDA Remote and NVDA 2019.3.X, quoting Rui Fontes from earlier today:

Almost all add-ons are already compatible with NVDA 2019.3...

You can get a beta version of remote add-on at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oswq834340ocd4c/Remote.nvda-addon?dl=1

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: A solution for read subtitles with NVDA, the program Pot Player

yunus Emre
 

f5 should work.