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Re: Spelling error in word 2016

 

Are you using the optional browse mode in Microsoft Word documents (and this appears to be on by default, as I don't remember turning it on?   If so, and you know that you've activated browse mode instead of focus mode (NVDA+spacebar toggles) the single letter navigation W will take you to words identified as misspelled.  (See section 6 of the NVDA user guide.)
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Re: Grammar checker

 

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 03:36 PM, farhan israk wrote:
Which grammar checker does work in Microsoft word
Unless you're using a really ancient version of Word, the built-in spelling and grammar checking works just fine with a screen reader.  There's no need for a third party utility.
 
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Re: Grammar checker

Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

Spell checker


On May 11, 2020, at 3:36 PM, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:



Which grammer checker does work in Microsoft word as well as accessible with nvda?


Grammar checker

farhan israk
 

Which grammer checker does work in Microsoft word as well as accessible with nvda?


Spelling error in word 2016

farhan israk
 

Though I have turned on all options for spelling error, why doesn't nvda provide feed back for misspelled word in Microsoft word 2016?


Re: Remote Relay server

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi,

There is a precompiled server for windows here:

https://github.com/jmdaweb/NVDARemoteServer/releases/download/release-1.6/NVDARemoteServer-win-1.6-x64.zip


Extract this to any location of your choosing. Inside the folder, right
click service manager.cmd and run it as administrator. Here is where you can
select to install the service, run it at startup, among other self
explanatory features.


Another good idea is to run the NVDA remote certificate.cmd file, again as
administrator, to create your own SSL certificate for your remote server.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a
compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd
prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you


locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

 

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 02:22 PM, Dennis L wrote:
This is why the option for this should be user controllable. Read it all
Read nothing or read the first line. Than the user could choose what works
for them.
Then, please, submit a feature request to the NVDA Github page, as it is abundantly clear that what you are seeking does not exist at this time.

And, this topic is now entirely exhausted, and is locked.
 
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locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

This is why the option for this should be user controllable. Read it all
Read nothing or read the first line. Than the user could choose what works
for them.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages
in outlook when open them?

Web pages are a little different though. If you go to a web page, there
might be several minutes of reading menus, sidebars, headers, and other
crap, before you ever get to the meat of the page.
That's why the auto read for webpages can be turned off.

With an email, if you open it, presumably you intend to read all or part of
it, and so it is more reasonable to start reading it.

That said, in my mind, it would make a lot more sense if it started reading
the entire mesage rather than just the first line. If it just reads the
first line, you still have to take manual action to read the rest of the
message. It seems like it would not be satisfying either the people who want
to hear nothing, or the ones who want to hear the entire message without
doing anything after they hit open. So I'm not sure of the value of a first
line only read.

Luke

On Mon, 11 May 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I have my web pages not read a thing. I know when they are open
only when I check, and for me that's fine. Same with most messages, although
reading the first line would be nice.


Re: NVDA goes silent with Outlook 365

Janet Brandly
 

Hello Johnathon,

 

I’m not really sure what that is or how to change it. Would you mind explaining further?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 7:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA goes silent with Outlook 365

 

I believe there is a setting (perhaps in advanced) to have NVDA use UIA for Office applications. Does the behavior change if you toggle this? 


locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

Gene
 

If you are reading mail as HTML, it will, by default, read the entire message.  There is a setting in NVDA to not automatically use read to end which, as I recall, is in the Browse Mode settings.
 
If you turn this off, I would expect, though I haven't checked, that the first line of the message would be read.  This will affect anything using browse mode unless you use a profile. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

Web pages are a little different though. If you go to a web page, there might be
several minutes of reading menus, sidebars, headers, and other crap, before you
ever get to the meat of the page.
That's why the auto read for webpages can be turned off.

With an email, if you open it, presumably you intend to read all or part of it,
and so it is more reasonable to start reading it.

That said, in my mind, it would make a lot more sense if it started reading the
entire mesage rather than just the first line. If it just reads the first line,
you still have to take manual action to read the rest of the message. It seems
like it would not be satisfying either the people who want to hear nothing, or
the ones who want to hear the entire message without doing anything after they
hit open. So I'm not sure of the value of a first line only read.

Luke

  On Mon, 11 May 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

> Actually I have my web pages not read a thing. I know when they are open only when I check, and for me that's fine. Same with most messages, although
> reading the first line would be nice.



locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

Luke Davis
 

Web pages are a little different though. If you go to a web page, there might be several minutes of reading menus, sidebars, headers, and other crap, before you ever get to the meat of the page.
That's why the auto read for webpages can be turned off.

With an email, if you open it, presumably you intend to read all or part of it, and so it is more reasonable to start reading it.

That said, in my mind, it would make a lot more sense if it started reading the entire mesage rather than just the first line. If it just reads the first line, you still have to take manual action to read the rest of the message. It seems like it would not be satisfying either the people who want to hear nothing, or the ones who want to hear the entire message without doing anything after they hit open. So I'm not sure of the value of a first line only read.

Luke

On Mon, 11 May 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I have my web pages not read a thing. I know when they are open only when I check, and for me that's fine. Same with most messages, although
reading the first line would be nice.


Re: Remote Relay server

George McCoy
 

Hi Ralf,


When I click the link, I get a 404 page not found message.  Is it still available?


Many thanks,

George

On 5/8/2020 2:53 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ubtwx5elgfta2y/NVDA_Remote_Servers.zip?dl=0
I think I got them from github end of last year including the compiled versions.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you








Re: NVDA speaks all punctuations except period

 

Make sure that no entries have been made in any one of the dictionaries (most likely the default dictionary, but check them all) that would prevent a period from being spoken.

Also check in Punctuation & Symbols settings (NVDA+N,P,P), to be certain that the single period stand-alone, and at the end of a sentence, have not been tweaked to have a blank replacement text.  If your Punctuation & Symbols settings are still in their default state, or something near to it, typing the word "dot," in the Filter by edit box should pull up both the sentence ending and standalone periods with a replacement text of dot.  If it doesn't, then something's been changed, and it's impossible to say what without seeing it/having direct access to it.

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Re: NVDA speaks all punctuations except period

Sarah k Alawami
 

Did you reboot the computer or reboot nvda to see if that solves the problem?

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On 11 May 2020, at 9:05, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hi everyone,

NVDA speaks all punctuations except period. When I press the key for
period it is silent. Even the word period or dot ar silent. Why is
that and how can correct it? Would NVDA correct itself if I uninstall
and reinstall?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Re: NVDA verbosity question with outlook.

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually since it takes a split second to open the message you really don't need a sound. Just do a 1 count or 5 count in your head then start reading the message.

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On 11 May 2020, at 3:16, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm while that would be an interesting feature, I'd then need a sound to tell me the message was open.

The fact it starts reading indicates the messages are open.



On 11/05/2020 6:59 pm, Dennis L wrote:

One thing that would be helpful is having the ability to have NVDA read nothing when you open a message.  Jaws has this feature.  It is called  messages automatically read.  It could be off by default and allow the user to use it or not. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 2:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA verbosity question with outlook.

 

Hi Dennis,

 

Firstly, I'm going to assume that you opened a message in between checking the status bar with Jaws (which counted 9 unread messages) and NVDA  (which reported 8 unread messages).

 

Ok, Outlook has a number of options for what it displays on its status bar.  Like Word, you can customise what is displayed, and like Word, you can manipulate some of the controls on the status bar.  In particular, you can change between normal and reading view and change the zoom.

 

To disable any of those items you don't want to use, press F6 to move the focus to the status bar, then press the applications key to open the context menu.  Use the arrow keys to move through the options and spacebar to check or uncheck items as you see fit.

 

Out of curiosity, does the same apply to other Office programs?  Word, Excel, PowerPoint etc?  Does NVDA read more of those items than Jaws?

 

I'll update our Switching from Jaws to NVDA guide once I know whether to note it as just for Outlook or all of Office.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 5:27 AM Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:

Hi, are there verbosity settings I need to change so that NVDA more closely speaks what Jaws does when I read the outlook status bar?  The first example is Jaws the second is NVDA.

 

Jaws. Items in View 45

Unread Items in View 9

Zoom 10%

 

Status Bar Items in View 45 Unread Items in View 8 Normal View. Show All Pinned Panes. Reading View. Hide All Pinned Panes. Zoom Out Zoom 0 Zoom In Zoom 10% Size box

 


 

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Re: Toggle Passing Keys in NVDA?

Sarah k Alawami
 

That's not actually what we are asking. If I need to do something with nvda speach on, and I have to pass keys through to said app, I would want a sticky way of doing this.

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On 10 May 2020, at 23:30, Quentin Christensen wrote:

NVDA has a "sleep mode".  Press NVDA+shift+s (or if using laptop keyboard layout press NVDA+shift+z) and NVDA will be silent and will ignore keystrokes while you are in the current program (or until you press the sleep command again).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 12:37 PM Tilea <sabelyn@...> wrote:
Hi there! I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to tell NVDA to stop processing commands for a time, similar to the "pass next key through" command. When using an application/ widget that has heavy keyboard accessibility, NVDA's commands really hinder the use of the application, and having to press NVDA+F2 between each and every keystroke would make - say - a game using its own keyboard commands practically unplayable. I thought perhaps the "application sleep mode" was what I needed, but not only does the command listed on the reference do absolutely nothing for me, it apparently stops the speech synthesis as well, which I don't want.

What I'm looking for is a key stroke that tells NVDA to start ignoring/passing keys until that same keystroke is entered again, or something to that effect.

Searching for this has yielded nothing helpful because any way I phrase the question, I simply get linked back to the user guide or commands quick reference, which so far as I've seen, doesn't have any solution. Is there perhaps an addon that would allow this, or have I missed something in NVDA's main feature set?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!



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NVDA speaks all punctuations except period

 

Hi everyone,

NVDA speaks all punctuations except period. When I press the key for
period it is silent. Even the word period or dot ar silent. Why is
that and how can correct it? Would NVDA correct itself if I uninstall
and reinstall?
Any help will be appreciated.
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locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

 

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Actually I too would want this
Sarah, shame on you for not having read through the entire thread, as the "this" you're requesting has already been stated as possible and the NVDA setting discussed.

Your "this" and the original posters "this" are not the same thing, so, no, you don't want it.  Read the first 4 messages of this very topic.
 
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locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I have my web pages not read a thing. I know when they are open only when I check, and for me that's fine. Same with most messages, although reading the first line would be nice.

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On 10 May 2020, at 17:23, Gene wrote:

This isn't just changing how the program responds in this one situation.  the program behaves in this way every time you open a document in any document reading program.  One person or two people by themselves don't make a convincing case for changing this behavior.  And if you change the behavior by providing a don't read any of document automatically feature, what will you substitute in its place?  Think of what it means.  If nothing is spoken, you won't know when a document has opened.  You may not even know the program itself has opened, if you click on a file and nothing is spoken. 
 
I want verification that something has opened and appears to be working properly.  the most efficient way to do that is by having the first line read automatically.  That way, I get information about the first line, which I often want instead of some sort of generic announcement such as program x has opened, document y has opened and reading something like the title of the document. 
 
In short, you would have to come up with something more efficient and more useful than what you are complaining about now if you want a change because I very much doubt most people want such a change or option.  Are you literally asking that nothing be spoken?  That is most unsatisfactory.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

I have seen at least one other person request this feature.  Its clearly not just me who wants this.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

 

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 04:35 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:

to read it in your preferred mode by default.

And when, "your preferred method," could be one of who knows how many, it becomes ridiculous to try to implement said preferences.  This may not be one of those cases, but I am discussing a general principle.

There are constant complaints about how complex the preferences settings are for a wide variety of programs, but those complexities are the direct result of trying to allow individual users maximum control over how things work.  And even then, default choices have to be made, none of which satisfy everyone.

There are times when giving no options makes far more sense than giving many, when exiting the default behavior is a single keystroke away.  You (any you) may argue whether that's the case here, and that's perfectly legitimate discussion, but it's very hard to argue the general principle.  Option bloat is a very serious issue to be considered and it's often hard to strike the right balance between "all" or "nothing" that makes most happy.  Everyone will never be happy.
 
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locked Re: How to prevent NVDA from automatically reading messages in outlook when open them?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I too would want this. Read the first line of a message this way I know whether to open it or not, or read the first line of a message when I open it this way I can quickly skim. This is often how I read email in my other programs. If I'm not interested, then I won't read it. ON the mac I have my program set not to read messages and I just invoke a say all with my keys locked if I want to hear.

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On 10 May 2020, at 15:40, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 06:12 PM, Dennis L wrote:
Its clearly not just me who wants this.
No, it's not.  So far the "yeas" are 2, and the nays keep increasing.

This will be my last comment.  I'm not saying your wants should not be heard, but I am saying that they appear to be in the distinct minority, and that means they're unlikely to result in any change.

Hareth's comment expresses my personal feeling/opinion on the matter, but better.  My comment to Richard Bartholomew, https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/73646, can stand as a final statement from me that addresses the underlying considerations.

And, again, as has been emphasized elsewhere on this very group over the last several days:  If you have a change you wish to see, then please, file a feature request (for a new or extended feature) or a bug report on NVDA's GitHub.  That's how things actually get rolling, at least when they do get rolling.  The response to any feature request can be either, "No," or, "Not now, and it's a low priority."  Real bugs always get addressed in order of severity.
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