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Re: NVDA 2020 Beta Version

brice Mijares
 

Brian, I was to lazy to go get the info. I installed the latest this morning.

alpha-20005,14c2e2ec
Fri Apr 17 14:03:19 2020

On 4/17/2020 12:17 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
FYI, I've retitled the topic to reflect the 2020 Beta, as there are lots of beta versions over time.  If that is an incorrect presumption, then let me know which beta you're making reference to.  It's helpful for the topic to tie directly to the specific beta version being discussed.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna


Re: NVDA 2020 Beta Version

 

FYI, I've retitled the topic to reflect the 2020 Beta, as there are lots of beta versions over time.  If that is an incorrect presumption, then let me know which beta you're making reference to.  It's helpful for the topic to tie directly to the specific beta version being discussed.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


NVDA 2020 Beta Version

brice Mijares
 

Since the first NVDA beta, I  don't hear links or buttons. Any ideas why? Thanks


Re: New NVDA sounds

Tony Malykh
 

Hi Kara,

What tools did you use to create them? And do you know what tools did Andre use for his sounds (if different)? I would like to create some similar short sounds for punctuation marks...

--Tony

On 4/17/2020 2:48 AM, Kara Goldfinch wrote:

Tony,

I created them along with Andre Louis.

I did the startup/shutdown sounds and he did the rest.

Kara


On 16/04/2020 18:38, Tony Malykh wrote:
Do you know how these sounds were made or where do they come from? For my phonetic punctuation add-on I'm looking for more of these short and distinctive sounds to replace punctuation with.

--Tony

On 4/15/2020 12:44 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/km6i9ip82q3nkn1/NVDA%20new%20waves.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 19:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards Ali











--

Kara Goldfinch

Certified Expert               
View the list of all NVDA Experts


Re: New NVDA sounds

Gene
 

I didn’t notice which list the message was directed to when I wrote my last message.  Since you are using NVDA, the letter k is the move by link command.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
 
There is a folder called waves.  The new sounds are just other wave files.  They are placed in a folder with the same name in the same location as the old waves file now is.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
 
I'm running a installed version. They are still in my downloaded folder.
Are you saying they go where all the Windows event wav

  sounds are?
On 4/17/2020 6:45 AM, Gene wrote:
> they were originally supposed to be incorporated into NVDA as a part
> of the program.  There is therefore no explanation of how to replace
> the old files with the new.
> It may depend on whether you are running an installed or a portable
> version of the program, where you would put the files.  I’ll write
> more about the portable version if people are interested in another
> message but you either back up the original waves folder or delete it,
> create another folder called waves and place the files in that or, if
> the download you got has the files already in a folder called waves,
> paste that folder in the same place as the old waves folder was.
> That’s true of both the installed and portable versions but the waves
> folder may be in a different place, I’m not sure.
> To backup the old waves file, change its name to something like waves
> old, that’s all you have to do.  You can leave the folder where it is.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 7:37 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
> I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what
> to do with them.
>
> On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
> > Hello!
> > How do I install/use these sounds?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Sociohack
> >
>
>
>



Re: Trying to learn NVDA for the Microsoft Flight simulator and the add on program Ideal Flight Special Edition

David Csercsics
 

Neat, but I guess it sounds like I should wait for the October updates, and possibly the new XBox with accessibility fixes. I'm guessing you use one of the phone OCR apps? And then point it at the screen to read the sim stuff? That would not really be doable here, as I don't habitually have a monitor connected, which generally causes windows to be confused about screen resolution, among other things.


Re: links in email with thunderbird

Henk Mulder
 

Hi Mary,

I think this also has to do with the extra chatter in the statusbar.
If I open a mail with the statusbar disabled, then NVDA will read the label of the link when I tab to it. If I enable the statusbar and tab to a link, then the URL is shown in the statusbar, and that is what's being read.
So I think that disabling the statusbar will solve your problem.
Note that, if messages are opened in a new window, it will not automatically use the same setting as for the main window of Thunderbird. Therefore you might have to adjust this setting for (1) the main window, (2) the window for reading messages, and (3) the window for composing messages.

Best,
Henk

Op 17/04/2020 om 17:16 schreef Mary Otten:

Hi all,


Until this most recent update to T-bird, the one that started the thread on all that extra chatter, it had been the case that if you opened a message and read it, or if you tabbed through the open message looking for links, those links which had English text associated with the url would announce the same way, i.e. the English text, not the http:// etc would be spoken by NVDA. Now, however, if I get a message and tab through to quickly find the link I know is there, all I get are the readouts of urls, which are not helpful at all. If I read through the message, I hear the actual English text, not the url, but that is inefficient as heck, since in a lot of instances, I know there are titles to stories, for instance in a newsletter, that I want to flip through, rather than listening to them all plus the blurbs after each one.


I hope this description makes sense. What can I do to get my tabbing to read the link label in English as it does when you read straight through, rather than read the html http:// stuff?


Mary




Re: links in email with thunderbird

 

Mary,

            I'm sorry to say that this sounds like a bug that has crept in, so you probably can't.  I would have to presume this is on the Thunderbird side, too.

            As a curiosity question, and not just to you, do you have a "backup" e-mail client that you can use to test against?  Given that you can have as many e-mail clients as you might like on a given computer if they're all accessing the same accounts via IMAP, it's worth having an extra one to test against when stuff like this comes up so that you can differentiate between the problem possibly being on the screen reader side versus the email client side.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: New NVDA sounds

brice Mijares
 

Jene, thanks for the info.

On 4/17/2020 7:57 AM, Gene wrote:
There is a folder called waves.  The new sounds are just other wave files.  They are placed in a folder with the same name in the same location as the old waves file now is.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
*Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 8:57 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
I'm running a installed version. They are still in my downloaded folder.
Are you saying they go where all the Windows event wav

  sounds are?
On 4/17/2020 6:45 AM, Gene wrote:
they were originally supposed to be incorporated into NVDA as a part
of the program.  There is therefore no explanation of how to replace
the old files with the new.
It may depend on whether you are running an installed or a portable
version of the program, where you would put the files. I’ll write
more about the portable version if people are interested in another
message but you either back up the original waves folder or delete it,
create another folder called waves and place the files in that or, if
the download you got has the files already in a folder called waves,
paste that folder in the same place as the old waves folder was.
That’s true of both the installed and portable versions but the waves
folder may be in a different place, I’m not sure.
To backup the old waves file, change its name to something like waves
old, that’s all you have to do.  You can leave the folder where it is.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
*Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 7:37 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what
to do with them.

On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
Hello!
How do I install/use these sounds?
--
Regards,
Sociohack



Re: Trying to learn NVDA for the Microsoft Flight simulator and the add on program Ideal Flight Special Edition

Kerryn Gunness
 

thanks sarah
thought you were  ron
lol
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to learn NVDA for the Microsoft Flight simulator and the add on program Ideal Flight Special Edition

There is no add on for flying with NVDA. You have to use screen review and ocr to do most of the work. It's a bit of a pain, but it is doable. If you want more info check out my new lbry channel where I am going to post every flight sim video from 2018 to present, if I can find them all. I use NVDA and later on this year I'm going to post a video showing how the screen reader is connected. Give me about 6 months to put everything together though , but this is a project I'm working on now.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 16 Apr 2020, at 17:01, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:

hi ron
am also trying to do the same
can u email me privately?
trying to get the blind flight simmer contact, addd on for nvda
info on how to fly etc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Kolesar" kolesar16417@...
To: "Non Visual Desktop Access Mailing List" nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Trying to learn NVDA for the Microsoft Flight simulator and the add on program Ideal Flight Special Edition

Hello to all.
I know that Sarah would be a great resource for this question.
But curious if anyone could give feedback on using both either Microsoft Flight Simulator version ten, AKA FSX Steam version and or the newer program Prepare 3-d now I believe is version 5 with NVDA?
I also have been watching quite a bit about the up coming Microsoft Flight simulator 2020 project that's all over the internet and face book as well.
This project is suppose to be out around October 13th, 2020.
But I thought that I saw somewhere that it might be released sometime now in September.
I just uninstalled all of my flying programs.
Many thanks.
Ron Ham Radio Station KR3DOG
In the good old days of Morse code Shorthand, 73's AKA Best Regards and or Best Whishes,From
Ron Kolesar
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And
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links in email with thunderbird

Mary Otten
 

Hi all,


Until this most recent update to T-bird, the one that started the thread on all that extra chatter, it had been the case that if you opened a message and read it, or if you tabbed through the open message looking for links, those links which had English text associated with the url would announce the same way, i.e. the English text, not the http:// etc would be spoken by NVDA. Now, however, if I get a message and tab through to quickly find the link I know is there, all I get are the readouts of urls, which are not helpful at all. If I read through the message, I hear the actual English text, not the url, but that is inefficient as heck, since in a lot of instances, I know there are titles to stories, for instance in a newsletter, that I want to flip through, rather than listening to them all plus the blurbs after each one.


I hope this description makes sense. What can I do to get my tabbing to read the link label in English as it does when you read straight through, rather than read the html http:// stuff?


Mary


Re: New NVDA sounds

Gene
 

There is a folder called waves.  The new sounds are just other wave files.  They are placed in a folder with the same name in the same location as the old waves file now is.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
 
I'm running a installed version. They are still in my downloaded folder.
Are you saying they go where all the Windows event wav

  sounds are?
On 4/17/2020 6:45 AM, Gene wrote:
> they were originally supposed to be incorporated into NVDA as a part
> of the program.  There is therefore no explanation of how to replace
> the old files with the new.
> It may depend on whether you are running an installed or a portable
> version of the program, where you would put the files.  I’ll write
> more about the portable version if people are interested in another
> message but you either back up the original waves folder or delete it,
> create another folder called waves and place the files in that or, if
> the download you got has the files already in a folder called waves,
> paste that folder in the same place as the old waves folder was.
> That’s true of both the installed and portable versions but the waves
> folder may be in a different place, I’m not sure.
> To backup the old waves file, change its name to something like waves
> old, that’s all you have to do.  You can leave the folder where it is.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 7:37 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
> I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what
> to do with them.
>
> On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
> > Hello!
> > How do I install/use these sounds?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Sociohack
> >
>
>
>



Re: New NVDA sounds

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Done! Thank you, Gene.
Now, after using the new sounds for a few minutes, I feel that the old ones are better.
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: New NVDA sounds

brice Mijares
 

I'm running a installed version. They are still in my downloaded folder. Are you saying they go where all the Windows event wav

 sounds are?

On 4/17/2020 6:45 AM, Gene wrote:
they were originally supposed to be incorporated into NVDA as a part of the program.  There is therefore no explanation of how to replace the old files with the new.
It may depend on whether you are running an installed or a portable version of the program, where you would put the files.  I’ll write more about the portable version if people are interested in another message but you either back up the original waves folder or delete it, create another folder called waves and place the files in that or, if the download you got has the files already in a folder called waves, paste that folder in the same place as the old waves folder was.
That’s true of both the installed and portable versions but the waves folder may be in a different place, I’m not sure.
To backup the old waves file, change its name to something like waves old, that’s all you have to do.  You can leave the folder where it is.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* brice Mijares <mailto:bmijares33@...>
*Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 7:37 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what
to do with them.

On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
Hello!
How do I install/use these sounds?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: New NVDA sounds

Gene
 

they were originally supposed to be incorporated into NVDA as a part of the program.  There is therefore no explanation of how to replace the old files with the new. 
 
It may depend on whether you are running an installed or a portable version of the program, where you would put the files.  I’ll write more about the portable version if people are interested in another message but you either back up the original waves folder or delete it, create another folder called waves and place the files in that or, if the download you got has the files already in a folder called waves, paste that folder in the same place as the old waves folder was. 
 
That’s true of both the installed and portable versions but the waves folder may be in a different place, I’m not sure.
 
To backup the old waves file, change its name to something like waves old, that’s all you have to do.  You can leave the folder where it is. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds
 
I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what
to do with them.

On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
> Hello!
> How do I install/use these sounds?
> --
> Regards,
> Sociohack
>



Re: New NVDA sounds

brice Mijares
 

I'd also like to know.  There should have been a text file stating what to do with them.

On 4/17/2020 5:29 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
Hello!
How do I install/use these sounds?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: New NVDA sounds

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello!
How do I install/use these sounds?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Windows magnifier

Bernd Dorer
 

Hi,

the addon works great.

Thanks
Bernd

Am 17.04.2020 um 04:13 schrieb hurrikennyandopo ...:

Hi guys



I was browsing the under development section and saw the add on for Windows magnifier. I knew there was one for windows 7 but no higher back then.


it looks as though this will work on windows 10

I seen this add on a little while back on the section under development.


has any one who has a bit more sight have a play with this add on and how well did it work?


I saw it when installed went up to 16 times magnification in Windows I thought it used to only be like 4 times at one time maybe windows 7 or did it change later on?


it seems to have a stable release number but is still under development. Is it been reviewed at the moment to go onto the main add on list? or are bugs etc still be ironed out?


The add on I am referring to can be found at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/windowsMagnifier.en.html

 Has any one used it with the mouse and did they have any problems like windows locking up? or any ting like that.


There may be some members who could benefit from this add on when it gets released to the main list.


I was also wondering there may be others on this list who do not know about it and may help them.


Gene nz




Re: New NVDA sounds

Kara Goldfinch
 

Tony,

I created them along with Andre Louis.

I did the startup/shutdown sounds and he did the rest.

Kara


On 16/04/2020 18:38, Tony Malykh wrote:
Do you know how these sounds were made or where do they come from? For my phonetic punctuation add-on I'm looking for more of these short and distinctive sounds to replace punctuation with.

--Tony

On 4/15/2020 12:44 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/km6i9ip82q3nkn1/NVDA%20new%20waves.zip?dl=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Mittwoch, 15. April 2020 19:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA sounds

Hello everyone,

some years ago the sounds of NVDA should have been renewed, but were discarded.

Do any of you still have these sounds and could you send them to me?

Thank you very much in advance and best regards Ali











--

Kara Goldfinch

Certified Expert               
View the list of all NVDA Experts


Re: strange behavior with Microsoft sapi 5 voices and NVDA

Tony Ballou
 

Hey Gene,


There's another thought that crossed my mind as well, the utility that you're speaking of I seem to remember hearing or reading something about such a thing quite a few years back but have no idea if it's still in existence. I'll be ringing Microsoft sometime tomorrow, if I can't find this utility.  Thanks for bringing that up.


Tony

On 4/16/2020 8:38 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m not at all sure reinstalling will accomplish anything.  There is a way to repair SAPI 5, which I don’t know if it will help.  If the voices work before login, it appears they don’t need reinstallation.  I wonder if it is a registry problem.  While I don’t know, maybe the repair procedure or utility might correct that.  The voices clearly work.  They work on the login screen.  Here again, I don’t know but reinstalling SAPI voices might be something to do after running the repair.  Also, if you are going to fool around trying various things, I wonder if and how you would set the voice to something that isn’t SAPI 5 before login so that if trying things makes things worse, you will have speech on that screen.
 
I don’t know what was done to your computer, but I believe that even for something unrelated to software, if a computer is brought into a shop, routine diagnostic tests and maintenance may be done and I suspect something was done that caused the problems.  Those who have more technical knowledge and know what shops routinely do may want to comment.  In thinking about what you are describing and about a shop I used to use years ago, I’m beginning to think that if you take a computer in for a specific problem and it wrks properly aside from that, that it might be a good idea to instruct the shop to do nothing else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange behavior with Microsoft sapi 5 voices and NVDA
 
Hi Jackie,


That's something I was thinking about possibly having to do, we're on
the same wavelength. Trust me I already as they say, googled it so we
don't even have to go there.  Needless to say, the hits were enormous,
and the answer is the proverbial needle in a haystack.   Where can you
find the actual executable file for performing the re-install, that's
the question now.

Tony

On 4/16/2020 3:37 PM, Jackie wrote:

> Tony, since this clearly affects more than just NVDA, let me suggest a
> reinstall of your SAPI5 voices.
>
> On 4/16/20, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:
>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>>
>> I just had the power switch repaired, that was to my knowledge the only
>> hardware issue going on.  As far as the problem goes, it's with all of
>> the sapi 5 voices including Neospeech.  As for the log on screen,
>> suggestion, I checked that out, first, and it would work if the problem
>> was actually there.  The problem occurs after things get past the log on
>> screen.
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 4/16/2020 3:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
>>> Tony, what sort of hardware repairs were done on your machine? Is
>>> there any possibility your activation for the Neospeech voices were
>>> broken by that?
>>>
>>> On 4/16/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
>>>> How do you mean they were compramised I'm not really clear as to what's
>>>> going on here.
>>>>
>>>> Take care
>>>>
>>>> Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
>>>> [website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com)
>>>>
>>>> to subscribe to the feed click [here](http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp)
>>>> and you can also [follow us on twitter](http://twitter.com/tffppodcast)
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>>>>
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>>>> On 16 Apr 2020, at 10:42, Tony Ballou wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Houdy folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for coming through for me over the weekend with my friend's
>>>>> computer issue.  The fixes are in place, and everything is as it
>>>>> should be on that score. Now I've got one of my own that's got me
>>>>> baffled. Here's what's going down.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     I had some hardware repairs done on my desktop just before we were
>>>>> all thrown into chaos. Everything was fixed internally and all's gravy
>>>>> on that side of the ledger.  However, there is a strange thing going
>>>>> on with Microsoft's Sapi 5 voices and NVDA that's got me scratching my
>>>>> head.  Please bare with me as I try to explain this because it's a
>>>>> new one on me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I initially log on to enter my password, the proper voice that I
>>>>> use which is neospeech Paul comes on as it should. However, now this
>>>>> is where things get dicey. Once past the log on screen the Sapi 5
>>>>> voices loose all functionality, and I have to switch to the windows
>>>>> one core voices for things to function in somewhat of a proper manner.
>>>>> I've tried all of the tricks that I know to put things right, but
>>>>> nothing works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't normally put up a fuss about it, because I can use the one
>>>>> core voices just fine for most tasks.  however, Some of the games
>>>>> that I play to help keep me sane during this crazy time that we're
>>>>> living in like chess, and cribbage  also use the Microsoft Sapi 5
>>>>> voices, and they've all been compromised as well. What's happened, and
>>>>> does anyone have a fix for this strange issue? Any help would be
>>>>> appreciated.  Thanks much and everyone stay safe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>