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Add-on developer contact bounced back

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I just tried to contact the developer of one of the add-ons I have to see if the add-on would be made compatible with NVDA 2021.1, and I got a “Mail Delivery Subsystem Failure” notification.  I had copied the E-mail address directly from the link on the website with the list of add-ons and their compatibility status, so there shouldn’t have been a typo.  I’ll provide the developer upon request.
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hmph interesting.

Obviously your work spares no expence, macs are powerhhouses.

However, maybe ask them nicely if you can please use a standard pc instead unless of course they want to develop on macs.

If not ask them to buy vmware workstation and run that or the playeror fusion or something but really you probably will want a windows pc.



On 9/07/2021 10:29 am, lukelistservs@... wrote:

Hi,

I consulted Google before sending this but I only came across this situation for NVDA testing purposes so I don’t want to presume that information also applies to the end user experience. I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising considering we’ll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time. Sounds like we’ll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding. Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned that the Mac doesn’t have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely appreciated. I’ve already resigned from my current company and will be starting the new job in two weeks so I’m kind of freaking out right now, Ha.

 

Thank you,

Luke

 


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Sky Mundell
 

Hello. If your employer has shipped you the new mac, you won’t be able to run NVDA on the new macs with the m1 chip as you can’t run windows on the new mac. However, the mac uses Voiceover as its built in screen reader, and the concepts between mac and windows are the same. That is, the mac has a desktop, but the differences is that with applications on the mac, you use the app store to download mac apps and you can of course download mac apps from the internet, but the thing is you don’t have a start menu but you have a menu bar, and your applications go in a folder called applications and like on windows you can put short cuts on the desktop. If you want to learn how to use the mac with speech, here is a user guide that’ll show you how to use the screen reader on the mac.

Voiceover User Guide for Mac - Apple Support

Also, applications don’t install on the mac, meaning, you just run the application from the desktop or applications folder and away you go. Also, the apple macs and iPhones are designed to work together, and the thing is that there is no freezing of programs on the mac, and if applications on the mac happens to enter an unresponsive state, Voice Over will not crash. Rather, it’ll say, “busy.”

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lukelistservs@...
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 3:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hi,

I consulted Google before sending this but I only came across this situation for NVDA testing purposes so I don’t want to presume that information also applies to the end user experience. I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising considering we’ll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time. Sounds like we’ll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding. Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned that the Mac doesn’t have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely appreciated. I’ve already resigned from my current company and will be starting the new job in two weeks so I’m kind of freaking out right now, Ha.

 

Thank you,

Luke

 


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Christopher Kchao
 

I use Windows on an Intel-based Mac every day with no problem. External keyboard is a good idea (a Windows compatible one will be just fine). I know that on the MacBook keyboard itself, some of NVDA's laptop layout commands didn't always reliably work with using capslock as the NVDA modifier. The old solution before getting an external keyboard was to use SharpKeys to remap either the right cmd or option key to insert. Updates seemed to break that assignment and you'd need to go in and remap, but this was infrequent.

Best,
CK


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

I can't speak to NVDA specifically, but I had client who was  Mac user who was starting back to grad school and needed PC based access.  We used Jaws and Bootcamp without Issue.
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Re: reading mail in outlook 365

Don Robinson
 

Read all works automatically as expected in eM Client and Thunderbird but I have to use NVDA Key + down arrow or restart NVDA to get it to work in Outlook 365. Am I missing something?


Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Don Robinson
 

Hi,

As far as I can determine I am using NVDA. Narrator is turned off in Settings.

Don

------ Original Message ------
From: "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...>
Sent: 08/07/2021 11:07:16 am
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

Hi.

Are you sure you're using NVDA and not Narrator?


Accessibility of Microsoft report building SQL software with NVDA?

Sadam Ahmed <lists@...>
 

Hi all,

For some background I’ve put my CV forward for a   role working from home. If all goes well, I’ll be using SQL report building software from Microsoft.

I’m wondering if anyone on list is or has used SQL   with NVDA particularly in employment?

Should I be successful in moving forward in my application, They’ll probs insist I use a paid  screen reading solution which I won’t go for as NVDA  rocks.

Appreciate any insight.

Sincerely,

Sadam

Sadam Ahmed

Managing director of online content & assistive technology    trainer  at:

https://accessibletechnologysolutions.com/

Email:

Sadam@...

 

 

   


Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Luke Robinett
 

Hi,

I consulted Google before sending this but I only came across this situation for NVDA testing purposes so I don’t want to presume that information also applies to the end user experience. I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising considering we’ll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time. Sounds like we’ll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding. Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned that the Mac doesn’t have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely appreciated. I’ve already resigned from my current company and will be starting the new job in two weeks so I’m kind of freaking out right now, Ha.

 

Thank you,

Luke

 


Quick update on Windows 11 (reply offlist please): NvDA alpha.23330 will recognize Windows 11, this is just the beginning

 

Hello NvDA users,

To comply with requests from moderators (see earlier messages), if you have any comments or concerns about Windows 11, please talk to me directly (not on the list please):

I’m delighted to announce that a new milestone was achieved: as of NVDA alpha build 23330, NVDA will recognize Insider Preview build 22000 as Windows 11. This mostly benefits a specific group: Windows Insiders who are testing Windows 11 with NVDA alpha snapshots. With this milestone, developers and code contributors can begin “training” i.e. modify NVDA to work better with Windows 11 changes.

This is just the beginning. I expect Windows 11 support will be added piece by piece. Again, let me emphasize that support for Windows 11 from NvDA is EXPERIMENTAL as things can change without notice (that’s why I asked folks to talk to me about Windows 11 directly, not on this list).

P.S. On a personal note, two significant changes were just incorporated into NVDA: a feature from Resource Monitor add-on internals, and a visible feature from Windows App Essentials. More on these later.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on Updater 21.07 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Possibly due to a series of bleeding-edge code I was testing publicly with users.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Sarah k Alawami
 

Could it be that sounds object add on? I can’t remember what it is called, something like sound themes?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

Misspelled words aren’t flagged unless you are writing something, usually in an edit field.  These are sounds heard on the web site while moving through the site and not writing in anything like an edit field. 

 

I don’t know what you don’t hear when you turn off all sounds in this case so I’m not saying that is a good solution or not.  But it does appear to be an add-on causing the sounds.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: John Isige

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 3:43 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

Could you be hearing misspelled words? If you get into some sort of
editable browser control and turn your sounds back up and misspell
something, it makes this kind of buzzing noise. Maybe you're reading a
bunch of stuff it perceives as being misspelled. I'm suggesting the
experiment of deliberate misspelling so you can know if that's the noise
it was making.


On 7/8/2021 1:40 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
> I went to BrowserNav under settings and decreased all the sounds to
> zero. No more sounds when I navigate!

>
> On 7/8/21, Nevzat Adil via groups.io <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
>> I'm using NVDA. When I press enter at an edit box NVDA says "focus
>> mode" and when press escape says "brows mode" But when I begin using
>> the arrow keys or any other like 'h', 'b', or 'n'  I hear beeping  or
>> something like a growling sound. Audio indication of focus/brows mode
>> is unchecked.
>>
>> As someone suggested earlier it could be any of the add ons causing
>> those sounds, but no idea which one. Perhaps I should disable them all
>> to see if the issue continues. Then I can enable them one at a time to
>> find the culprit.
>>
>> On 7/8/21, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Are you sure you're using NVDA and not Narrator?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Nevzat Adil
>> Library of Congress Certified
>> Literary Braille Proofreader
>> C: 512 502 4403
>> e-mail: nevzatadil@...
>> Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Sarah k Alawami
 

Sounds like a plan, let us know which one it is.

Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

I'm using NVDA. When I press enter at an edit box NVDA says "focus mode" and when press escape says "brows mode" But when I begin using the arrow keys or any other like 'h', 'b', or 'n' I hear beeping or something like a growling sound. Audio indication of focus/brows mode is unchecked.

As someone suggested earlier it could be any of the add ons causing those sounds, but no idea which one. Perhaps I should disable them all to see if the issue continues. Then I can enable them one at a time to find the culprit.

On 7/8/21, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.

Are you sure you're using NVDA and not Narrator?






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Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@gmail.com
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Sarah k Alawami
 

What add ons are you running? I’m coming in late. Maybe it’s one of those, although I can’t think of any one that could cause this.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

In browse mode settings, the shortcut command to open that dialog is control NVDA key b, tab around and you will see a checkbox that says something like audio indication of focus and browse modes.  If this is checked, uncheck it with the space bar.  Then activate the ok button.

 

I’m not sure if that is the problem but I can’t think of any other possible cause.

 

As I recall, NVDA doesn’t change modes when it comes across buttons and radio buttons.  That’s why I’m doubtful that is the solution but, as I said, I can’t think of any other possible cause.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 10:35 AM

Subject: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

Hi Group,

Although I changed nothing, starting this morning NVDA began making
beeping and other kinds of sounds as I scroll up or down or move among
buttons and check boxes.
-- Where in the menus can I change it to as it used to be?
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader




Re: Add-on Updater 21.07 #addonrelease

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Boy, do I feel stupid.  I thought I always had Add-on Updater, but somehow over the past few releases (I don't remember just when) I apparently didn't have it. After Joseph's announcement earlier today, I was curious about it so I looked under add-on manager and it wasn't there to update.  So I installed it and when I checked the add on manager, now, there it is big as life.

I am just wondering what could have caused this. Was there some build recently where the add on updater had to be installed manually and thus it wasn't included in some relatively recent build? I am just curious.


On 7/8/2021 1:49 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello all,

Add-on Updater 21.07 is now available. As the name suggests, you can use Add-on Updater to update Add-on Updater.

 

Add-on Updater 21.07 is a major update. When it first appeared in 2018, Add-on Updater was designed to retrieve updates to add-ons hosted on community add-ons website. The mechanism involved downloading add-on update information from community add-ons website through a PHP file, which didn’t really check for NVDA compatibility information. Starting with version 21.07, Add-on Updater will use a much improved secondary source (a JSON file hosting add-on metadata) to check for NVDA compatibility before offering updates to add-ons you are using. The biggest difference is that this secondary source will also let Add-on Updater learn about new add-ons added to community add-ons website whenever they are published, which reduces add-on maintenance burden significantly (some add-on releases were dedicated to registering new add-ons for update checks; now all this will be done via JSON add-on metadata).

 

Another big change with Add-on Updater 21.07 is that, on Windows 10 and 11 (preview), you will receive a toast notification when add-on updates are available. Previously if add-on updates become available, a dialog may show up. Starting with this release, a toast advising you to open NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates will be shown when add-on authors release new updates.

 

Last but not least, sometimes add-on developers declare their add-ons as legacy because add-on features have become part of NVDA or for other reason. Previously if Add-on Updater detected legacy add-ons, a dialog will be shown at startup, but you had to use review cursor commands to read legacy add-ons list. Starting with this release, Add-on Updater will present legacy add-ons in a list view format, letting you review legacy add-on information more easily.

 

But that’s not all: there will come a time when you will be asked to uninstall Add-on Updater. More on that later. For now, please install Add-on Updater 21.07 (compatible with NVDA 2020.4 and later).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: object enhancer addon

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!


Try this one:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwcp1qncig6i01m/objEnhancer_2019.2beta1_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 00:40 de 09/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi Rui


I looked on the website is there one that is already packaged as a nvda add on? and would it be python 3 compatible so it works with nvda 2021.1


I would really like to try it out. By the sounds of it it would let us label say buttons etc on app that do not have any thing there. I am guessing it would work like on my android phone where I can label stuff it it lets me.


I am sure there wold be others that would like to test it out as well.


Gene nz


On 9/07/2021 4:51 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

A rapid automatic translation with few corrections...

I think it gaves a good idea how it works...


I have already construct the add-on package...


The translation is below my name...


Rui Fontes



# Object Enhancer
* Author: Babbage B.V. <info@...>

Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you're using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.

Changes to an object are saved in a definition.
A definition contains:

* Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
* Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
* Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other definitions

## Creating your own definitions
Object Enhancer has a graphical interface to make new definitions and edit existing definitions.

To create a new definition for the current navigator object, press NVDA + CONTROL + TAB. This opens the new Definition dialog if no definition is found for the current object, and the existing definition is processed if there is a definition is to edit.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.
NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### The Edit New Definition / Definition dialog box consists of the following items:
#### Definition name
A unique name for your definition that you use to recognize it later, and to link it to a different definition if necessary.

#### Filter criteria:
These are the criteria to be used to apply the definition. You can filter on attributes / properties of an object.

Press Add to add a new criteria.
You can choose from the list of relevant object attributes or give up an attribute yourself.
For example, you can choose the WindowsControlID option from the list of attributes, after which the input fields for attribute and value are entered automatically.
For example, if you want to match an object with IAccessibleRole = 10 (ROLE_SYSTEM_CLIENT), you can also do this manually.

You can also edit the current filter criteria or add an extra value to filter, when you want to match an object that, for example, the value 15 or 16 has for WindowControllID.

#### Attribute changes
In the list of attribute changes you can specify which characteristics of the object should be changed. In most cases you probably want to change the name (name) or description (description).

#### Inherit settings from definition / definition is abstractSettings Overflows of definition / definition is abstract
With this drop-down list and this check box you can set a relationship between different definitions.

Imagine that you have to label multiple buttons in one application.
All buttons have a magicbutton window class name.
You can make a definition with WindowClass = MagicButton and the Definition check box is abstract, do not use it directly.
In the following definitions your settings can overflow from the definition of MagicButton, so that the new definition will behave as if windowClassName = MagicButton is specified as a filter criterion.

#### Treat criteria for object location as absolute screen coordinates
When this option is enabled, location criteria from the criteria section are treated as all other attributes. This means that if you define Locaton = (1, 2, 3, 4), any object without this absolute location does not match.

However, if this option is disabled, this has a large effect on object definitions with more than one location.
For more details we refer you to the English documentation.

#### Definition error handling
With this drop-down list you can decide what should happen if an error occurs when evaluating this definition:

* If set to continuue, the error is ignored and the evaluation continues
* If set to Break, the evaluation is demolished
* If set to Raise, a failing evaluation causes a traceback.

Do not apply this option unless you know what you do, eg because you are a NVDA or Python developer.

Às 16:22 de 08/07/2021, Josh Kennedy escreveu:

Hi

I found an object enhancer addon, it needs packaging, updating to python3, and some English translation. Is there anyone on list who could do this? This addon will let you customize objects just like you can with jaws. The link for the addon is:

 

https://github.com/BabbageCom/objEnhancer

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: object enhancer addon

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Rui


I looked on the website is there one that is already packaged as a nvda add on? and would it be python 3 compatible so it works with nvda 2021.1


I would really like to try it out. By the sounds of it it would let us label say buttons etc on app that do not have any thing there. I am guessing it would work like on my android phone where I can label stuff it it lets me.


I am sure there wold be others that would like to test it out as well.


Gene nz


On 9/07/2021 4:51 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

A rapid automatic translation with few corrections...

I think it gaves a good idea how it works...


I have already construct the add-on package...


The translation is below my name...


Rui Fontes



# Object Enhancer
* Author: Babbage B.V. <info@...>

Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you're using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.

Changes to an object are saved in a definition.
A definition contains:

* Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
* Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
* Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other definitions

## Creating your own definitions
Object Enhancer has a graphical interface to make new definitions and edit existing definitions.

To create a new definition for the current navigator object, press NVDA + CONTROL + TAB. This opens the new Definition dialog if no definition is found for the current object, and the existing definition is processed if there is a definition is to edit.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.
NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### The Edit New Definition / Definition dialog box consists of the following items:
#### Definition name
A unique name for your definition that you use to recognize it later, and to link it to a different definition if necessary.

#### Filter criteria:
These are the criteria to be used to apply the definition. You can filter on attributes / properties of an object.

Press Add to add a new criteria.
You can choose from the list of relevant object attributes or give up an attribute yourself.
For example, you can choose the WindowsControlID option from the list of attributes, after which the input fields for attribute and value are entered automatically.
For example, if you want to match an object with IAccessibleRole = 10 (ROLE_SYSTEM_CLIENT), you can also do this manually.

You can also edit the current filter criteria or add an extra value to filter, when you want to match an object that, for example, the value 15 or 16 has for WindowControllID.

#### Attribute changes
In the list of attribute changes you can specify which characteristics of the object should be changed. In most cases you probably want to change the name (name) or description (description).

#### Inherit settings from definition / definition is abstractSettings Overflows of definition / definition is abstract
With this drop-down list and this check box you can set a relationship between different definitions.

Imagine that you have to label multiple buttons in one application.
All buttons have a magicbutton window class name.
You can make a definition with WindowClass = MagicButton and the Definition check box is abstract, do not use it directly.
In the following definitions your settings can overflow from the definition of MagicButton, so that the new definition will behave as if windowClassName = MagicButton is specified as a filter criterion.

#### Treat criteria for object location as absolute screen coordinates
When this option is enabled, location criteria from the criteria section are treated as all other attributes. This means that if you define Locaton = (1, 2, 3, 4), any object without this absolute location does not match.

However, if this option is disabled, this has a large effect on object definitions with more than one location.
For more details we refer you to the English documentation.

#### Definition error handling
With this drop-down list you can decide what should happen if an error occurs when evaluating this definition:

* If set to continuue, the error is ignored and the evaluation continues
* If set to Break, the evaluation is demolished
* If set to Raise, a failing evaluation causes a traceback.

Do not apply this option unless you know what you do, eg because you are a NVDA or Python developer.

Às 16:22 de 08/07/2021, Josh Kennedy escreveu:

Hi

I found an object enhancer addon, it needs packaging, updating to python3, and some English translation. Is there anyone on list who could do this? This addon will let you customize objects just like you can with jaws. The link for the addon is:

 

https://github.com/BabbageCom/objEnhancer

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

As I said earlier I solved the problem by going to BrowserNav under
preferences and turning all that make sounds to zero.

On 7/8/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Misspelled words aren’t flagged unless you are writing something, usually in
an edit field. These are sounds heard on the web site while moving through
the site and not writing in anything like an edit field.

I don’t know what you don’t hear when you turn off all sounds in this case
so I’m not saying that is a good solution or not. But it does appear to be
an add-on causing the sounds.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

Could you be hearing misspelled words? If you get into some sort of
editable browser control and turn your sounds back up and misspell
something, it makes this kind of buzzing noise. Maybe you're reading a
bunch of stuff it perceives as being misspelled. I'm suggesting the
experiment of deliberate misspelling so you can know if that's the noise
it was making.


On 7/8/2021 1:40 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
I went to BrowserNav under settings and decreased all the sounds to
zero. No more sounds when I navigate! ✌

On 7/8/21, Nevzat Adil via groups.io <nevzatadil=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:
I'm using NVDA. When I press enter at an edit box NVDA says "focus
mode" and when press escape says "brows mode" But when I begin using
the arrow keys or any other like 'h', 'b', or 'n' I hear beeping or
something like a growling sound. Audio indication of focus/brows mode
is unchecked.

As someone suggested earlier it could be any of the add ons causing
those sounds, but no idea which one. Perhaps I should disable them all
to see if the issue continues. Then I can enable them one at a time to
find the culprit.

On 7/8/21, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.

Are you sure you're using NVDA and not Narrator?





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Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - PC Keyboard Braille Input for NVDA #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

PC Keyboard Braille Input for NVDA

  • Author: NV Access Limited, Noelia Ruiz Martínez
  • Copyright: 2012-2019 NV Access Limited, Noelia Ruiz Martínez
  • License: GNU General Public License version 2.0
  • Download: stable version (compatible with NVDA 2019.3 or later)
  • Download: development version (compatible with NVDA 2019.3 or later)
  • version 2014.1 (compatible with NVDA 2017.3 to 2019.2)

This NVDA add-on allows braille to be entered via the PC keyboard. Currently, the following keyboard layouts are supported:

  • English QWERTY keyboard.
  • French (France).
  • German (Germany).
  • Italian (Italy).
  • Persian.
  • Portuguese (Portugal).
  • Spanish (Spain and Mexico).
  • Turkish.

How to configure

The add-on can be configured from its category in the NVDA's settings dialog, under NVDA's menu, Preferences submenu. A gesture for opening the add-on settings panel can be assigned from Input gestures dialog, configuration category.

Check the corresponding checkbox if you want to type using only one hand, or ensure it's not checked if you prefer to type using the standard mode (two hands).

You can also select if NVDA should speak a single typed dot (using )the feature of "one hand mode").

How to Use

  1. Press NVDA+0 to enable braille input. This gesture can be changed from Input gestures dialog, Braille category.
  2. Type braille by pressing keys together on the PC keyboard as if it were a braille keyboard.

    • If you want to enter text using two hands, use the following keys if you work with a QWERTY English keyboard, or the keys located at the corresponding positions in other layouts:

      • f, d and s for dots 1, 2 and 3 respectively.
      • j, k and l for dots 4, 5 and 6 respectively.
      • Use the keys a and ; (semi-colon) for dots 7 and 8, respectively.
      • You can also use the keys on the row above; i.e. q, w, e, r, u, i, o and p.
    • If you want to type text using one hand, you can compose characters pressing keys simultaneously or in several keystrokes, adding the dots corresponding to the desired character. Press g or h to type the character when you have added all its dots. If you make a mistake building a character, you can clear the dots before typing it by pressing t or y. The keys used in QWERTY English keyboard are the following:

      • Left hand: f, d, s, r, e, w, a, q for dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.
      • Right hand: j, k, l, u, i, o, ; (semicolon), p for dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.
  3. You can press most other keys as normal, including space, backspace, enter and function keys. Take care about not pressing alt+shift, since changing the keyboard layout may affect the entered dots.

  4. Press space bar in combination with braille dots to move the system cursor (or report the current line), just if you were using a braille display. For example, space+dot1 to emulate upArrow, space+dot4+dot5+dot6 to emulate control+end, space+dot1+dot4 to report the current line, etc.
  5. Press NVDA+0 to disable braille input.

Important Notes

This add-on uses NVDA's in-built braille input support. Therefore, the input table used is that specified in NVDA's Braille Settings dialog.

Some keyboards, particularly laptop keyboards, cannot handle certain combinations of keys being pressed. When this happens, certain keys are simply ignored. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can be done to fix this, as the keys are simply never received by Windows or NVDA. In some cases, using the upper row of keys with either or both hands might help, as your keyboard may allow these keys.

Changes for 2020.1

  • You can press space bar in combination with braille dots to emulate gestures, similar to commands available in braille displays.
  • Added an option to speak single dots typed in one hand mode.

Contributors

  • James Teh
  • Noelia.
  • Mohammadreza Rashad
  • Cagri Dogan
  • Bernd Dorer
  • Ângelo Abrantes
  • Cyrille Bougot
  • Abdel.


Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Gene
 

Misspelled words aren’t flagged unless you are writing something, usually in an edit field.  These are sounds heard on the web site while moving through the site and not writing in anything like an edit field. 
 
I don’t know what you don’t hear when you turn off all sounds in this case so I’m not saying that is a good solution or not.  But it does appear to be an add-on causing the sounds.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: John Isige
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down
 
Could you be hearing misspelled words? If you get into some sort of
editable browser control and turn your sounds back up and misspell
something, it makes this kind of buzzing noise. Maybe you're reading a
bunch of stuff it perceives as being misspelled. I'm suggesting the
experiment of deliberate misspelling so you can know if that's the noise
it was making.


On 7/8/2021 1:40 PM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
> I went to BrowserNav under settings and decreased all the sounds to
> zero. No more sounds when I navigate! ✌
>
> On 7/8/21, Nevzat Adil via groups.io <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
>> I'm using NVDA. When I press enter at an edit box NVDA says "focus
>> mode" and when press escape says "brows mode" But when I begin using
>> the arrow keys or any other like 'h', 'b', or 'n'  I hear beeping  or
>> something like a growling sound. Audio indication of focus/brows mode
>> is unchecked.
>>
>> As someone suggested earlier it could be any of the add ons causing
>> those sounds, but no idea which one. Perhaps I should disable them all
>> to see if the issue continues. Then I can enable them one at a time to
>> find the culprit.
>>
>> On 7/8/21, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Are you sure you're using NVDA and not Narrator?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Nevzat Adil
>> Library of Congress Certified
>> Literary Braille Proofreader
>> C: 512 502 4403
>> e-mail: nevzatadil@...
>> Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




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