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Re: object enhancer addon

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rui,

I wonder if you could give a concrete example of how this add on works. It sounds quite complex.  Is it something like a JAWS graphics labeller?  If so, if you make the changes, will this affect other such buttons/items that exist in other programs where they are properly operating before any changes?

This may be one of the disadvantages of not having scripting for many programs such as JAWS does.

On 7/8/2021 12:51 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

A rapid automatic translation with few corrections...

I think it gaves a good idea how it works...


I have already construct the add-on package...


The translation is below my name...


Rui Fontes



# Object Enhancer
* Author: Babbage B.V. <info@...>

Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you're using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.

Changes to an object are saved in a definition.
A definition contains:

* Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
* Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
* Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other definitions

## Creating your own definitions
Object Enhancer has a graphical interface to make new definitions and edit existing definitions.

To create a new definition for the current navigator object, press NVDA + CONTROL + TAB. This opens the new Definition dialog if no definition is found for the current object, and the existing definition is processed if there is a definition is to edit.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.
NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### The Edit New Definition / Definition dialog box consists of the following items:
#### Definition name
A unique name for your definition that you use to recognize it later, and to link it to a different definition if necessary.

#### Filter criteria:
These are the criteria to be used to apply the definition. You can filter on attributes / properties of an object.

Press Add to add a new criteria.
You can choose from the list of relevant object attributes or give up an attribute yourself.
For example, you can choose the WindowsControlID option from the list of attributes, after which the input fields for attribute and value are entered automatically.
For example, if you want to match an object with IAccessibleRole = 10 (ROLE_SYSTEM_CLIENT), you can also do this manually.

You can also edit the current filter criteria or add an extra value to filter, when you want to match an object that, for example, the value 15 or 16 has for WindowControllID.

#### Attribute changes
In the list of attribute changes you can specify which characteristics of the object should be changed. In most cases you probably want to change the name (name) or description (description).

#### Inherit settings from definition / definition is abstractSettings Overflows of definition / definition is abstract
With this drop-down list and this check box you can set a relationship between different definitions.

Imagine that you have to label multiple buttons in one application.
All buttons have a magicbutton window class name.
You can make a definition with WindowClass = MagicButton and the Definition check box is abstract, do not use it directly.
In the following definitions your settings can overflow from the definition of MagicButton, so that the new definition will behave as if windowClassName = MagicButton is specified as a filter criterion.

#### Treat criteria for object location as absolute screen coordinates
When this option is enabled, location criteria from the criteria section are treated as all other attributes. This means that if you define Locaton = (1, 2, 3, 4), any object without this absolute location does not match.

However, if this option is disabled, this has a large effect on object definitions with more than one location.
For more details we refer you to the English documentation.

#### Definition error handling
With this drop-down list you can decide what should happen if an error occurs when evaluating this definition:

* If set to continuue, the error is ignored and the evaluation continues
* If set to Break, the evaluation is demolished
* If set to Raise, a failing evaluation causes a traceback.

Do not apply this option unless you know what you do, eg because you are a NVDA or Python developer.

Às 16:22 de 08/07/2021, Josh Kennedy escreveu:

Hi

I found an object enhancer addon, it needs packaging, updating to python3, and some English translation. Is there anyone on list who could do this? This addon will let you customize objects just like you can with jaws. The link for the addon is:

 

https://github.com/BabbageCom/objEnhancer

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Gene
 

In browse mode settings, the shortcut command to open that dialog is control NVDA key b, tab around and you will see a checkbox that says something like audio indication of focus and browse modes.  If this is checked, uncheck it with the space bar.  Then activate the ok button.
 
I’m not sure if that is the problem but I can’t think of any other possible cause.
 
As I recall, NVDA doesn’t change modes when it comes across buttons and radio buttons.  That’s why I’m doubtful that is the solution but, as I said, I can’t think of any other possible cause.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2021 10:35 AM
Subject: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down
 
Hi Group,

Although I changed nothing, starting this morning NVDA began making
beeping and other kinds of sounds as I scroll up or down or move among
buttons and check boxes.
-- Where in the menus can I change it to as it used to be?
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
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Re: object enhancer addon

Rui Fontes
 

A rapid automatic translation with few corrections...

I think it gaves a good idea how it works...


I have already construct the add-on package...


The translation is below my name...


Rui Fontes



# Object Enhancer
* Author: Babbage B.V. <info@...>

Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you're using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.

Changes to an object are saved in a definition.
A definition contains:

* Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
* Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
* Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other definitions

## Creating your own definitions
Object Enhancer has a graphical interface to make new definitions and edit existing definitions.

To create a new definition for the current navigator object, press NVDA + CONTROL + TAB. This opens the new Definition dialog if no definition is found for the current object, and the existing definition is processed if there is a definition is to edit.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.
NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

NVDA + Control + Shift + tab opens the main dialog box of the add-on with which you can find out existing definitions and edit existing definitions.

Please note that when you want to make a definition quickly, you can do it best with NVDA + Control + Tab, because you can automatically have certain properties of the object to take over.
For example, when you press this shortcut when the current navigator object is a list item, you can automatically add the current name, role or location to the definition.

### The Edit New Definition / Definition dialog box consists of the following items:
#### Definition name
A unique name for your definition that you use to recognize it later, and to link it to a different definition if necessary.

#### Filter criteria:
These are the criteria to be used to apply the definition. You can filter on attributes / properties of an object.

Press Add to add a new criteria.
You can choose from the list of relevant object attributes or give up an attribute yourself.
For example, you can choose the WindowsControlID option from the list of attributes, after which the input fields for attribute and value are entered automatically.
For example, if you want to match an object with IAccessibleRole = 10 (ROLE_SYSTEM_CLIENT), you can also do this manually.

You can also edit the current filter criteria or add an extra value to filter, when you want to match an object that, for example, the value 15 or 16 has for WindowControllID.

#### Attribute changes
In the list of attribute changes you can specify which characteristics of the object should be changed. In most cases you probably want to change the name (name) or description (description).

#### Inherit settings from definition / definition is abstractSettings Overflows of definition / definition is abstract
With this drop-down list and this check box you can set a relationship between different definitions.

Imagine that you have to label multiple buttons in one application.
All buttons have a magicbutton window class name.
You can make a definition with WindowClass = MagicButton and the Definition check box is abstract, do not use it directly.
In the following definitions your settings can overflow from the definition of MagicButton, so that the new definition will behave as if windowClassName = MagicButton is specified as a filter criterion.

#### Treat criteria for object location as absolute screen coordinates
When this option is enabled, location criteria from the criteria section are treated as all other attributes. This means that if you define Locaton = (1, 2, 3, 4), any object without this absolute location does not match.

However, if this option is disabled, this has a large effect on object definitions with more than one location.
For more details we refer you to the English documentation.

#### Definition error handling
With this drop-down list you can decide what should happen if an error occurs when evaluating this definition:

* If set to continuue, the error is ignored and the evaluation continues
* If set to Break, the evaluation is demolished
* If set to Raise, a failing evaluation causes a traceback.

Do not apply this option unless you know what you do, eg because you are a NVDA or Python developer.

Às 16:22 de 08/07/2021, Josh Kennedy escreveu:

Hi

I found an object enhancer addon, it needs packaging, updating to python3, and some English translation. Is there anyone on list who could do this? This addon will let you customize objects just like you can with jaws. The link for the addon is:

 

https://github.com/BabbageCom/objEnhancer

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Sounds when scrolling up and down

Chris
 

Thats sounds like a add-on of some sort or program you are using, but not NVDA itself

 

 

From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: 08 July 2021 16:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

Hi Group,

 

Although I changed nothing, starting this morning NVDA began making

beeping and other kinds of sounds as I scroll up or down or move among

buttons and check boxes.

-- Where in the menus can I change it to as it used to be?

Nevzat Adil

Library of Congress Certified

Literary Braille Proofreader

C: 512 502 4403

e-mail: nevzatadil@...

Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Translation Capability

 

I got it. Thanks.

On 7/7/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a translation add-on. These sorts of features, which aren’t
related to the defined function of a screen-reader are usually found in
add-ons.

The official add-ons page is here:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

Add-ons on this page have been inspected, tested, and approved by NVDA
evaluators. There are add-ons from other places and I’m not saying to use
or not to use them, but since add-ons have the ability to do all sorts of
things and can function as malware, you may want to be careful which
unapproved ones you use.

the name of the translation add-on is Instant Translate.

Gene
----- Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2021 5:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Translation Capability

Hi Group[,

I was told NVDA has language translation capability, but checking the
menus I was not able to spot it.
For instance, with a combination of keystrokes NVDA will translate a
language into another.
Does anyone know about this?
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Sounds when scrolling up and down

 

Hi Group,

Although I changed nothing, starting this morning NVDA began making
beeping and other kinds of sounds as I scroll up or down or move among
buttons and check boxes.
-- Where in the menus can I change it to as it used to be?
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@gmail.com
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


object enhancer addon

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi

I found an object enhancer addon, it needs packaging, updating to python3, and some English translation. Is there anyone on list who could do this? This addon will let you customize objects just like you can with jaws. The link for the addon is:

 

https://github.com/BabbageCom/objEnhancer

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and Windows 11

Joseph Norton
 

Hi again:

 

Sorry, I should have read further before posting the previous message.

 

At any rate, I have no issues or problems that I can’t handle, as far as I know, and I’ll limit it to that.

 

Again, thanks to all NVDA developers for giving all of us another great choice.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 11

 

Hi listers:

 

Well, I am running Windows 11 from the Insider Dev channel, and, NVDA is giving more constructive feedback than the Shark.

 

So, my hat’s off to the NVDA developers again.

 

Keep up the great work.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


NVDA and Windows 11

Joseph Norton
 

Hi listers:

 

Well, I am running Windows 11 from the Insider Dev channel, and, NVDA is giving more constructive feedback than the Shark.

 

So, my hat’s off to the NVDA developers again.

 

Keep up the great work.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Windows Magnifier #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

Windows Magnifier

This add-on improves the use of Windows Magnifier with NVDA.

Features

  • Allows to report the result of some native Magnifier keyboard commands.
  • Allows to reduce the cases where table navigation commands conflict with Magnifier's commands.
  • Adds some keyboard shortcuts to toggle various Magnifier options.

Settings

The setting panel of Windows Magnifier add-on allows to configure how NVDA reacts to native Windows Magnifier commands. You may want to have more or less commands reported according to what you are able to see. This panel may be opened choosing Preferences -> Settings in the NVDA menu and then selecting the Windows Magnifier category in the Settings window. The keyboard shortcut NVDA+Windows+O then O also allows to open this settings panel directly.

The panel contains the following options:

  • Report view moves: controls what is reported when you move the view with Control+Alt+Arrows commands. The three options are:

    • Off: Nothing is reported.
    • With speech: a speech message indicates the position of the zoomed view on the dimension the view is being moved.
    • With tones: a tone is played and its pitch indicates the position of the zoomed view on the dimension the view is being moved.

    This option only affects full view mode.

  • Report turn on or off: If checked, the Magnifier's state is reported when you use Windows++ or Windows+Escape commands to turn it on or off.

  • Report zoom: If checked, the Magnifier's zoom level is reported when you use Windows++ or Windows+- zoom commands.
  • Report color inversion: If checked, the color inversion state is reported when you use the control+Alt+I toggle command.
  • Report view change: If checked, the view type is reported when you use a command that changes the view type (Control+Alt+M, Control+Alt+F, Control+Alt+D, Control+Alt+L)
  • Report lens or docked window resizing: If checked, a message is reported when you use the resizing commands (Alt+Shift+Arrows). In docked window mode, the height or the width is reported. In lens mode, the new dimension cannot be reported for now. These resizing command do not seem to be available on all versions of Windows; if your Windows version does not support them, you should keep this option unchecked.
  • In documents and list views, pass control+alt+arrows shortcuts to Windows Magnifier: There are three possible choices:

    • Never: The command is not passed to Windows Magnifier and standard NVDA table navigation can operate. When used in documents out of a table, the Control+Alt+Arrow command reports a "Not in a table" error message. This is the standard behaviour of NVDA without this add-on.
    • Only when not in table: In table or in list views, Control+Alt+Arrow commands perform standard table navigation. When used in documents out of a table, Control+Alt+Arrow commands perform standard Magnifier view move commands. If you still want to move Windows Magnifier view while in table or in list view, you will need to press NVDA+F2 before using Control+Alt+Arrow commands. This option is the best compromise if you want to use Control+Alt+Arrow for both Magnifier and table navigation.
    • Always: Control+Alt+Arrow commands moves the Magnifier's view in any case. This option may be useful if you do not use Control+Alt+Arrow to navigate in table, e.g. because you have changed table navigation shortcuts in NVDA or because you exclusively use Easy table navigator add-on for table navigation.

Commands added by this add-on

In addition to native Magnifier commands, this add-on provide additional commands that allow to control Magnifier's options without opening its configuration page. All the commands added to control Magnifier options are accessible through the Magnifier layer command NVDA+Windows+O:

  • NVDA+Windows+O then C: Toggles on or off caret tracking.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then F: Toggles on or off focus tracking.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then M: Toggles on or off mouse tracking.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then T: Toggles on or off tracking globally.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then S: Toggles on or off smoothing.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then R: Switches between mouse tracking modes (within the edge of the screen or centered on the screen); this feature is only available on Windows 10 build 17643 or higher.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then X: Switches between text cursor tracking modes (within the edge of the screen or centered on the screen); this feature is only available on Windows 10 build 18894 or higher.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then V: Moves the mouse cursor in the center of the magnified view (command available in full screen view only).
  • NVDA+Windows+O then O: Opens Windows Magnifier add-on settings.
  • NVDA+Windows+O then H: Displays help on Magnifier layer commands.

There is no default direct gesture for each command, but you can attribute one normally in the input gesture dialog if you wish. The same way, You can also modify or delete the Magnifier layer access gesture (NVDA+Windows+O). Yet, you cannot modify the shortcut key of the Magnifier layer sub-commands.

Magnifier's native commands

The result of the following Magnifier native commands may be reported by this add-on, according to its configuration:

  • Start Magnifier: Windows++ (on alpha-numeric keyboard or on numpad)
  • Quit Magnifier: Windows+Escape
  • Zoom in: Windows++ (on alpha-numeric keyboard or on numpad)
  • Zoom out: Windows+- (on alpha-numeric keyboard or on numpad)
  • Toggle color inversion: Control+Alt+I
  • Select the docked view: Control+Alt+D
  • Select the full screen view: Control+Alt+F
  • Select the lens view: Control+Alt+L
  • Cycle through the three view types: Control+Alt+M
  • Resize the lens with the keyboard: Shift+Alt+Left/Right/Up/DownArrow. Note: although this does not seem to be documented, this shortcut seems to have been withdrawn in recent Windows versions such as Windows 2004.
  • Move the magnified view: Control+Alt+Arrows (reporting only affects full screen mode)

Here is also a list of other Magnifier native commands, just for information:

  • Control+Alt+mouseScrollWheel: Zooms in and out using the mouse scroll wheel.
  • Control+Windows+M: Opens the Magnifier's settings window.
  • Control+Alt+R: Resizes the lens with the mouse.
  • Control+Alt+Space: Quickly shows the entire desktop when using full screen view.

None of the Magnifier native commands can be modified.

Notes

  • For computers equipped with an Intel graphic card, control+alt+arrow (left/right/up/down) are also shortcuts to modify the orientation of the screen. These shortcut are enabled by default and conflict with Windows Magnifiers shortcuts to move the view. You will need to disable them to be able to use them for the Magnifier. They can be disabled in the Intel control panel or in the Intel menu present in the system tray.
  • Depending on your Windows version, Alt+Shift+Arrow are Windows Magnifier shortcuts to resize the magnified view (lens or docked). When Magnifier is active (even in full screen mode), these shortcuts are captured by Magnifier and cannot be passed to the application, even if you press NVDA+F2 before. To use these shortcuts in the current application, you need to quit the Magnifier (Windows+Escape) and re-open it after (Windows++). For example in MS word, to decrease title level:

    • Press Windows+Escape to quit Magnifier.
    • Press Alt+Shift+RightArrow to decrease current title level.
    • Press Windows++ to re-open the Magnifier.
  • For more information about Windows Magnifier's features and shortcuts, you may want to consult the following pages:

Change log

Version 1.0

  • Initial release.


Re: Add-on Updater 21.07 #addonrelease

David Griffith
 

When I follow the link in this email I get

This site can’t be reached

events’s server IP address could not be found.

Web is working fine on other sites.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 08 July 2021 06:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater 21.07 #AddonRelease

 

Hello all,

Add-on Updater 21.07 is now available. As the name suggests, you can use Add-on Updater to update Add-on Updater.

 

Add-on Updater 21.07 is a major update. When it first appeared in 2018, Add-on Updater was designed to retrieve updates to add-ons hosted on community add-ons website. The mechanism involved downloading add-on update information from community add-ons website through a PHP file, which didn’t really check for NVDA compatibility information. Starting with version 21.07, Add-on Updater will use a much improved secondary source (a JSON file hosting add-on metadata) to check for NVDA compatibility before offering updates to add-ons you are using. The biggest difference is that this secondary source will also let Add-on Updater learn about new add-ons added to community add-ons website whenever they are published, which reduces add-on maintenance burden significantly (some add-on releases were dedicated to registering new add-ons for update checks; now all this will be done via JSON add-on metadata).

 

Another big change with Add-on Updater 21.07 is that, on Windows 10 and 11 (preview), you will receive a toast notification when add-on updates are available. Previously if add-on updates become available, a dialog may show up. Starting with this release, a toast advising you to open NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates will be shown when add-on authors release new updates.

 

Last but not least, sometimes add-on developers declare their add-ons as legacy because add-on features have become part of NVDA or for other reason. Previously if Add-on Updater detected legacy add-ons, a dialog will be shown at startup, but you had to use review cursor commands to read legacy add-ons list. Starting with this release, Add-on Updater will present legacy add-ons in a list view format, letting you review legacy add-on information more easily.

 

But that’s not all: there will come a time when you will be asked to uninstall Add-on Updater. More on that later. For now, please install Add-on Updater 21.07 (compatible with NVDA 2020.4 and later).

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Add-on Updater 21.07 #addonrelease

 

Hi,

As for that, I don't know.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on Updater 21.07 #addonrelease

 

So, we are finally getting close to including addon updater in core of nvda.

So when exactly will we get all this in the main program?



On 8/07/2021 5:49 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello all,

Add-on Updater 21.07 is now available. As the name suggests, you can use Add-on Updater to update Add-on Updater.

 

Add-on Updater 21.07 is a major update. When it first appeared in 2018, Add-on Updater was designed to retrieve updates to add-ons hosted on community add-ons website. The mechanism involved downloading add-on update information from community add-ons website through a PHP file, which didn’t really check for NVDA compatibility information. Starting with version 21.07, Add-on Updater will use a much improved secondary source (a JSON file hosting add-on metadata) to check for NVDA compatibility before offering updates to add-ons you are using. The biggest difference is that this secondary source will also let Add-on Updater learn about new add-ons added to community add-ons website whenever they are published, which reduces add-on maintenance burden significantly (some add-on releases were dedicated to registering new add-ons for update checks; now all this will be done via JSON add-on metadata).

 

Another big change with Add-on Updater 21.07 is that, on Windows 10 and 11 (preview), you will receive a toast notification when add-on updates are available. Previously if add-on updates become available, a dialog may show up. Starting with this release, a toast advising you to open NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates will be shown when add-on authors release new updates.

 

Last but not least, sometimes add-on developers declare their add-ons as legacy because add-on features have become part of NVDA or for other reason. Previously if Add-on Updater detected legacy add-ons, a dialog will be shown at startup, but you had to use review cursor commands to read legacy add-ons list. Starting with this release, Add-on Updater will present legacy add-ons in a list view format, letting you review legacy add-on information more easily.

 

But that’s not all: there will come a time when you will be asked to uninstall Add-on Updater. More on that later. For now, please install Add-on Updater 21.07 (compatible with NVDA 2020.4 and later).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Add-on Updater 21.07 #addonrelease

 

Hello all,

Add-on Updater 21.07 is now available. As the name suggests, you can use Add-on Updater to update Add-on Updater.

 

Add-on Updater 21.07 is a major update. When it first appeared in 2018, Add-on Updater was designed to retrieve updates to add-ons hosted on community add-ons website. The mechanism involved downloading add-on update information from community add-ons website through a PHP file, which didn’t really check for NVDA compatibility information. Starting with version 21.07, Add-on Updater will use a much improved secondary source (a JSON file hosting add-on metadata) to check for NVDA compatibility before offering updates to add-ons you are using. The biggest difference is that this secondary source will also let Add-on Updater learn about new add-ons added to community add-ons website whenever they are published, which reduces add-on maintenance burden significantly (some add-on releases were dedicated to registering new add-ons for update checks; now all this will be done via JSON add-on metadata).

 

Another big change with Add-on Updater 21.07 is that, on Windows 10 and 11 (preview), you will receive a toast notification when add-on updates are available. Previously if add-on updates become available, a dialog may show up. Starting with this release, a toast advising you to open NVDA menu/Tools/Check for add-on updates will be shown when add-on authors release new updates.

 

Last but not least, sometimes add-on developers declare their add-ons as legacy because add-on features have become part of NVDA or for other reason. Previously if Add-on Updater detected legacy add-ons, a dialog will be shown at startup, but you had to use review cursor commands to read legacy add-ons list. Starting with this release, Add-on Updater will present legacy add-ons in a list view format, letting you review legacy add-on information more easily.

 

But that’s not all: there will come a time when you will be asked to uninstall Add-on Updater. More on that later. For now, please install Add-on Updater 21.07 (compatible with NVDA 2020.4 and later).

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Translation Capability

Gene
 

There is a translation add-on.  These sorts of features, which aren’t related to the defined function of a screen-reader are usually found in add-ons. 
 
The official add-ons page is here:
 
Add-ons on this page have been inspected, tested, and approved by NVDA evaluators.  There are add-ons from other places and I’m not saying to use or not to use them, but since add-ons have the ability to do all sorts of things and can function as malware, you may want to be careful which unapproved ones you use.
 
the name of the translation add-on is Instant Translate.
 
Gene

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Subject: [nvda] Translation Capability
 
Hi Group[,

I was told NVDA has language translation capability, but checking the
menus I was not able to spot it.
For instance, with a combination of keystrokes NVDA will translate a
language into another.
Does anyone know about this?
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Got it!

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     Bothe the volunteer list and your phone number is identified in my phone!

Thanks,

Me&G


Re: Initial Windows 11 experience with NVDA

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

Thanks for all you do joseph. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Initial Windows 11 experience with NVDA

 

Hi,

Hopefully to clarify more than one question (because I do see this on the mentioned Win10 Forum, which is undergoing a name change process at the moment):

I can assure you all that screen reader vendors and Microsoft are aware of user interface oddities. For example, there are UI label issues affecting major screen readers (Narrator included), details of which require explanation of the toolkit used to code UI elements (beyond the scope of this list, I'm afraid). I have published workarounds for NVDA users in the form of Windows App Essentials add-on development builds, but there are other issues to be discovered. Given prevalence of UI issues with current Windows 11 Insider Preview builds (namely how data is exposed to screen readers), I have advised Windows UI team to resolve issues as soon as possible.

My advice for Windows 11 discussion: follow Brian's advice. I will do everything I can to make sure screen reader users navigating Windows 11 are not forgotten and treated with respect, provided that I won't collapse due to a combination of graduate school prep anxiety and nightly debugging and debate sessions with Windows Insiders and Microsoft people. I can assure you that NVDA users will receive workarounds through Windows App Essentials add-on in the foreseeable future (this is one of those moments where I might just beg Microsoft to pay for graduate school or give grants to NV Access, but I feel that's too much; that's my feeling regarding current state of UI issues with Windows 11 preview, but I remain hopeful that things can be resolved by end of this year). Also, I said it before but I'm putting in all caps: SUPPORT FOR Windows 11 FROM NVDA IS EXPERIMENTAL AND THINGS CAN CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE, DO NOT USE Windows 11 PREVIEW RELEASE WITHOUT KEEPING BUGS IN MIND!

P.S. I know that folks rarely see me write the above in all caps, but please, please, please, remember the above warning.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Translation Capability

Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA add-ons download and have an ".nvda-addon" extension.  With NVDA running, once you launch that file it will prompt to install into NVDA.  Alternatively, once you've downloaded it, with NVDA running, press NVDA+n to open the menu, T for tools, then a to launch the add-on manager.  From there you can install new add-ons wherever you've downloaded them to.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:29 AM Nevzat Adil <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
It's a downloadable file, But have no idea where to save it to work with NVDA.

On 7/7/21, Sascha Cowley via groups.io
<sascha.camille=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
> This functionality is available through the instantTranslate (
> https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/instantTranslate.en.html ) addon.
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Re: Translation Capability

 

It's a downloadable file, But have no idea where to save it to work with NVDA.

On 7/7/21, Sascha Cowley via groups.io
<sascha.camille=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This functionality is available through the instantTranslate (
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/instantTranslate.en.html ) addon.






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Re: Translation Capability

Sascha Cowley
 

This functionality is available through the instantTranslate addon.

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