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Re: Question About Copying Text

Monte Single
 

What kind of document are you pasting the copied material into and in what format are you saving it?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lanie Molinar
Sent: September-26-19 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question About Copying Text

 

Hi everyone. I have a question about copying text from webpages or anywhere that has links. I'm taking online classes, and for the discussion board assignments, a lot of people are copying text containing links as part of their posts, somehow keeping the links and other formatting intact. I've been wanting to copy text that contains links this way, but when I copy text, all the formatting seems to be removed. Is their an accessible way to do this? I'm a pretty advanced computer and NVDA user, so I'm surprised I don't know this. Thanks.

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Question About Copying Text

 

Hi everyone. I have a question about copying text from webpages or anywhere that has links. I'm taking online classes, and for the discussion board assignments, a lot of people are copying text containing links as part of their posts, somehow keeping the links and other formatting intact. I've been wanting to copy text that contains links this way, but when I copy text, all the formatting seems to be removed. Is their an accessible way to do this? I'm a pretty advanced computer and NVDA user, so I'm surprised I don't know this. Thanks.

--

Lanie Molinar

Disability Rights Advocate and Software Engineering Student at Brigham Young University-Idaho

Connect with me on LinkedIn

Phone: 832-284-2426

Certified expert with general use of NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access and use of it with Microsoft Word. Learn more here.

Do you have multiple disabilities or know someone who does? Please check out and share my blog on life with multiple disabilities. Click the "Available Groups" link to find support and advocacy groups for people with multiple disabilities.

Re: read all not working

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

So what program is she using were you able to find out?


Gene nz


On 27/09/2019 11:17 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

She is not aware of the numpad outside of the numpad zero as an NVDA key. So when she presses NVDA+down arrow it is only reading a single line of text.  

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] read all not working

 

Hi

 

If she is using the numeric keypad with the down arrow key and the nvda key it will not work.

 

It needs to be the nvda key + down arrow key if using a desk top lay out or the nvda key + A if using the lap top lay out.

 

Gene nz

 

On 27/09/2019 11:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I cannot find anything in NVDA to adjust hotkeys.

She is sure she is hitting up and not down arrow?

 

Is she using the insert key on the number pad and the down arrow from the 4 cursor keys?

 

If she is using the caps lock key instead of the number pad, that might be the problem.

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] read all not working

 

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


 

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To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: read all not working

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Yes, even when I remoted to her pc I got the same result.

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] read all not working

 

I cannot find anything in NVDA to adjust hotkeys.

She is sure she is hitting up and not down arrow?

 

Is she using the insert key on the number pad and the down arrow from the 4 cursor keys?

 

If she is using the caps lock key instead of the number pad, that might be the problem.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] read all not working

 

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

 

Re: read all not working

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

She is not aware of the numpad outside of the numpad zero as an NVDA key. So when she presses NVDA+down arrow it is only reading a single line of text.  

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] read all not working

 

Hi

 

If she is using the numeric keypad with the down arrow key and the nvda key it will not work.

 

It needs to be the nvda key + down arrow key if using a desk top lay out or the nvda key + A if using the lap top lay out.

 

Gene nz

 

On 27/09/2019 11:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I cannot find anything in NVDA to adjust hotkeys.

She is sure she is hitting up and not down arrow?

 

Is she using the insert key on the number pad and the down arrow from the 4 cursor keys?

 

If she is using the caps lock key instead of the number pad, that might be the problem.

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] read all not working

 

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


 

Re: read all not working

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If she is using the numeric keypad with the down arrow key and the nvda key it will not work.


It needs to be the nvda key + down arrow key if using a desk top lay out or the nvda key + A if using the lap top lay out.


Gene nz


On 27/09/2019 11:03 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I cannot find anything in NVDA to adjust hotkeys.

She is sure she is hitting up and not down arrow?

 

Is she using the insert key on the number pad and the down arrow from the 4 cursor keys?

 

If she is using the caps lock key instead of the number pad, that might be the problem.

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] read all not working

 

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: NVDA With RH Voice SAPI5

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


They can be seen with the add on version but it looks as though the 3 files I mentioned are needed. The main add on the language data one and at least one voice. Just installed a second voice and it can be seen under the voice settings section in nvda.


Gene nz


On 27/09/2019 11:03 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
I was able to use all four English voices with NVDA using SAPI5. They
are not bad. I do wonder why the NVDA add-ons aren't being seen in the
synthesizer list after installation though.




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: read all not working

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


What program is she using? open office and lebra office will do that.


Is she using the desk top layout or the lap top layout? If it is the second one then if i remember right is nvda key + a


Gene nz


On 27/09/2019 10:53 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: RH Voices NVDA Add-on

Richard Wells
 

I installed the language add-on for English, then the four voices and it isn't shown. I've never had this happen with an add-on before.

On 9/26/2019 6:00 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


That would be where you change them I mean the synthesizer to the new one then go to voices.


You need to download the language add on just below it also where you got the previous add on and in my case also I downloaded the alan voice then changed to it.


It is working so you need.


I think it is the main add on the language data one also and a voice.


I am pretty sure as it is working.


Gene nz


On 27/09/2019 10:34 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
I tried this using the English add-on and the three offered English
voices. They installed, but they do not show in the change synthesizer
dialog under settings/speech. Did I miss a step somewhere?




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: read all not working

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

I cannot find anything in NVDA to adjust hotkeys.

She is sure she is hitting up and not down arrow?

 

Is she using the insert key on the number pad and the down arrow from the 4 cursor keys?

 

If she is using the caps lock key instead of the number pad, that might be the problem.

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] read all not working

 

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

NVDA With RH Voice SAPI5

Richard Wells
 

I was able to use all four English voices with NVDA using SAPI5. They
are not bad. I do wonder why the NVDA add-ons aren't being seen in the
synthesizer list after installation though.

Re: RH Voices NVDA Add-on

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


That would be where you change them I mean the synthesizer to the new one then go to voices.


You need to download the language add on just below it also where you got the previous add on and in my case also I downloaded the alan voice then changed to it.


It is working so you need.


I think it is the main add on the language data one also and a voice.


I am pretty sure as it is working.


Gene nz


On 27/09/2019 10:34 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
I tried this using the English add-on and the three offered English
voices. They installed, but they do not show in the change synthesizer
dialog under settings/speech. Did I miss a step somewhere?




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

read all not working

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I have a friend in her late 70’s trying to learn NVDA. For some reason when she presses NVDA+down arrow, it reads a single line of text and then stops. How does she correct this?

 

******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?***     

 

RH Voices NVDA Add-on

Richard Wells
 

I tried this using the English add-on and the three offered English
voices. They installed, but they do not show in the change synthesizer
dialog under settings/speech. Did I miss a step somewhere?

Re: Admin's notice: Eloquence #adminnotice

Gerardo Corripio
 

Remember too that those of you with Kurzweil1000 (of course licensed an legal copies like I had at a time, but haven’t had the opportunity to update mine) it has the IBM, which works beautifully with NVDA! Another legal way to use Eloquence or its voices if this makes sense.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 26 sep 2019, a la(s) 1:15 p. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:

Hello!

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5 version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader, NVDA!

Rui Fontes


Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:
Hello NVDA List:
I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.
Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.
Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.
If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.
--
Best,
Nimer Jaber
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Re: New NVDA Synthesizers

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, OK for any one who might be interested to try this the page is below. you download the addon then download each voice and install the addon first, then install each voice then restart Nvda and then you know how to get to the synth section. good luck. and yes it works with with alpha, I have been intouch with the dev and she is very quick to be of any help. url be low.

https://github.com/Olga-Yakovleva/RHVoice/wiki/Latest-version

On 26/09/2019 20:46, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
i sometimes use rh voice and use it on nvda and on my phone.
On 26/09/2019 00:30, Samuel Villa wrote:
Hello,

Are there going to be anymore NVDA synth add-ons? I use the Old ETI Eloquence add-on with NVDA 2019.2 and have been searching dozens of websites for more synths that may suit my tastes. I’m mainly interested in Clatt synthesis, but human synthesis is always available. Could you help me with that. My scond question I what is your favorite synthesizer? Thanks!

Re: New NVDA Synthesizers

Kevin Cussick
 

i sometimes use rh voice and use it on nvda and on my phone.

On 26/09/2019 00:30, Samuel Villa wrote:
Hello,
Are there going to be anymore NVDA synth add-ons? I use the Old ETI Eloquence add-on with NVDA 2019.2 and have been searching dozens of websites for more synths that may suit my tastes. I’m mainly interested in Clatt synthesis, but human synthesis is always available. Could you help me with that. My scond question I what is your favorite synthesizer? Thanks!

Re: Admin's notice: Eloquence #adminnotice

Chris Chaffin
 

I also use the Sapi 5 version and it works great.

Chris

On Sep 26, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5 version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader, NVDA!

Rui Fontes


Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:
Hello NVDA List:
I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.
Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.
Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.
If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.
--
Best,
Nimer Jaber
The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
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correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
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attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
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and above, please click here:
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Re: Admin's notice: Eloquence #adminnotice

Sky Mundell
 

Yes I use the SAPI 5 version of it myself.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 11:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Admin's notice: Eloquence #adminnotice

Hello!

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5
version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader,
NVDA!

Rui Fontes


Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:
Hello NVDA List:

I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier,
but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance
as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and
add-ons in general.

Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because
there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be
floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory
released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became
available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a
bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the
Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone
knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is
not free and is available for purchase, please write to
nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let
us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any
free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the
legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and
without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about
eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any
user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using
Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently
perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic
having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person
responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those
messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence
as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.

Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit
the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons
that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not
sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with
add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are
encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There
are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these
are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just
about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a
free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.

If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I
will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA
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Re: Admin's notice: Eloquence #adminnotice

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Besides the NVDA add-on for Eloquence, Code Factory also have a SAPI5 version...

Both are legal ways of using Eloquence with our prefered screen reader, NVDA!

Rui Fontes


Às 18:20 de 26/09/2019, Nimer Jaber escreveu:

Hello NVDA List:
I wish I would have caught the thread which started yesterday earlier, but unfortunately, I've been sick. I want to provide a bit of guidance as to what is and is not allowed in respect of discussing Eloquence and add-ons in general.
Eloquence was a banned topic on the NVDA list for a long time because there was no legal way to use it. Some add-ons were and continue to be floating around, but these add-ons are mostly illegal. Codefactory released an add-on for Eloquence. Once this version of Eloquence became available, the idea of banning eloquence as a discussion topic relaxed a bit. So, moving forward, Eloquence is not to be discussed unless the Eloquence which is being discussed is the one by codefactory. If anyone knows of a legal way to use Eloquence apart from this add-on, which is not free and is available for purchase, please write to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and let us know. Any discussion of any free method for using Eloquence, or any free eloquence add-on, or any method of circumventing paying for the legitimate add-on is prohibited and will be enforced stringently and without warnings. Let this message be your warning. Any topic about eloquence free add-ons will not be permitted on list by new users. Any user who has been around this list posting about free methods for using Eloquence will be placed on no-post status for a week, and subsequently perminently or unless the list owners choose to lift the ban. Any topic having to do with free eloquence will be immediately closed. Any person responding to a thread about free eloquence, particularly if those messages contain links to free eloquence will face the same consequence as the individual who initiates discussion of this illegal add-on.
Second, users wishing to download add-ons are highly encouraged to visit the NVDA add-on site. NVDA really should have a way of signing add-ons that are legitimate, and informing users of ones which are not, but not sure this is even possible. In any case, this list will deal with add-ons which are posted on the NVDA add-ons page, and users are encouraged highly to not download add-ons from 3rd-party sites. There are a number of sites which host illegal versions of add-ons, and these are prohibited from being discussed on list. This thread is not just about Eloquence, it is about any add-on which is illegal, or offers a free way to use a paid version of an add-on, such as a voice synth.
If you have questions, please write to the NVDA owner address, and I will do my best to clarify. If you disagree, please do write to the NVDA owner address.
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