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Gene
I didn't keep the messages in the current CCleaner
thread but I thought I should raise this very important point.
CCleaner, as do so many free programs now comes
bundled with one or more programs you probably don't want. Some of these
programs cause people problems as well.
Don't download and install the regular version of
CCleaner. Use either the portable version or the version that is called
something like the slim version.
Gene
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Felix G.
Hi! Exactly the experience I made in the past. The free version of CCleaner came bundled with some security software, or in some cases with Google Chrome. There are checkboxes, checked by default, which may be unchecked to prevent those additional installations. However, sometimes these check boxes are not in the tab order, so it's a good idea to carefully scan these installer windows with object navigation. I find that NVDA is very good at spotting those areas.Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mo., 5. Feb. 2018 um 19:11 Uhr:
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Arlene
Can you get it off ninite?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February-05-18 10:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner
I didn't keep the messages in the current CCleaner thread but I thought I should raise this very important point. CCleaner, as do so many free programs now comes bundled with one or more programs you probably don't want. Some of these programs cause people problems as well.
Don't download and install the regular version of CCleaner. Use either the portable version or the version that is called something like the slim version.
Gene
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nope that that I am aware of
On 2/5/2018 2:44 PM, Arlene wrote:
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Kevin Cussick
sorry no.
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On 05/02/2018 21:44, Arlene wrote:
Can you get it off ninite?
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Arlene
That is too bad. Then you would not have to get all this other junk. The
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Junk that you install that you may not want!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: February-05-18 2:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner sorry no. On 05/02/2018 21:44, Arlene wrote: Can you get it off ninite?
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Arlene
I should say the unwanted stuff like google chrome or other stuff.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: February-05-18 2:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner sorry no. On 05/02/2018 21:44, Arlene wrote: Can you get it off ninite?
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Gene
I've never heard of anyone getting it from
Ninite. That aside, you have to know how to protect yourself when
downloading and installing free software. You have to check the web page
carefully for check boxes to refuse additional programs. You have to look,
using object navigation when installing a program and even that may not
work. You should be using unchecky, a utility you install and then just
let it sit there, looking for bundled software. It can't block everything
but it blocks a lot and it may save you from downloading additional
programs.
I can't say this is generally true but I wouldn't
be surprised if it is. If a site offers a portable version of a program.
that program may not have any additional programs bundled with it. By
definition, a portable program makes no changes to your system.
Gene
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From: Arlene
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing
CCleaner Can you get it off ninite?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
I didn't keep the messages in the current CCleaner thread but I thought I should raise this very important point. CCleaner, as do so many free programs now comes bundled with one or more programs you probably don't want. Some of these programs cause people problems as well.
Don't download and install the regular version of CCleaner. Use either the portable version or the version that is called something like the slim version.
Gene
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Kevin Cussick
just search for c Cleaner slim and you will find it.
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On 05/02/2018 22:57, Arlene wrote:
That is too bad. Then you would not have to get all this other junk. The
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Arlene
Does it work for win ten?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: February-05-18 3:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner just search for c Cleaner slim and you will find it. On 05/02/2018 22:57, Arlene wrote: That is too bad. Then you would not have to get all this other junk.
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Roger Stewart
Yes it does! I've been using CCleaner with Win 10 for a couple years now. Works just fine.
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Roger
On 2/5/2018 5:02 PM, Arlene wrote:
Does it work for win ten?
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Roger Stewart
No, CCleaner doesn't appear to me on
Ninite. I don't know how to find a portable version. When I check
for CCleaner on the site it takes me to for updating, I just get a
few choices and there isn't any portable or slim version offered
there. Roger
On 2/5/2018 3:44 PM, Arlene wrote:
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Gene
You don't have to get it. Use the portable
version or the slim, or whatever it is called, version.
Gene
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From: Arlene
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing
CCleaner Junk that you install that you may not want! -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: February-05-18 2:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner sorry no. On 05/02/2018 21:44, Arlene wrote: > Can you get it off ninite? > > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of > *Gene > *Sent:* February-05-18 10:11 AM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner > > I didn't keep the messages in the current CCleaner thread but I > thought I should raise this very important point. > > CCleaner, as do so many free programs now comes bundled with one or > more programs you probably don't want. Some of these programs cause > people problems as well. > > Don't download and install the regular version of CCleaner. Use > either the portable version or the version that is called something > like the slim version. > > Gene > >
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Pascal Lambert
Yes it does. Not a 100% accessible but fairly manageable.
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A very good utility. Blessings Pascal
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 6:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner Does it work for win ten? -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: February-05-18 3:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner just search for c Cleaner slim and you will find it. On 05/02/2018 22:57, Arlene wrote: That is too bad. Then you would not have to get all this other junk.
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Pascal Lambert
If you contact the company, they will email you a link. Blessings Pascal
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 6:09 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner
No, CCleaner doesn't appear to me on Ninite. I don't know how to find a portable version. When I check for CCleaner on the site it takes me to for updating, I just get a few choices and there isn't any portable or slim version offered there.
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Gene
If you have trouble finding something, and even if
you don't, doing a Google search is often the easiest way to find
something. Search for ninite portable. In the results, check the
address under the link to the page to check if the link is legitimate. In
this case, use the link that leads to a page on the developers site. For
other programs, you may get a link to old apps or portable apps. I think
both sites are com. You may see other links and not those. In that
case, ask on a good list if the sites are reputable or look up the sites on
google. You can search for something like is X site reliable or is x site
safe or x sitename review.
Gene
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From: Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing
CCleaner No, CCleaner doesn't appear to me on Ninite. I
don't know how to find a portable version. When I check for CCleaner on the site
it takes me to for updating, I just get a few choices and there isn't any
portable or slim version offered there.
Roger On 2/5/2018 3:44 PM, Arlene wrote:
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Cristóbal
It used to be on Ninite many moons ago, but was removed at the request of the developer if memory serves. They wanted people to go to their actual site to download.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 2:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner
I've never heard of anyone getting it from Ninite. That aside, you have to know how to protect yourself when downloading and installing free software. You have to check the web page carefully for check boxes to refuse additional programs. You have to look, using object navigation when installing a program and even that may not work. You should be using unchecky, a utility you install and then just let it sit there, looking for bundled software. It can't block everything but it blocks a lot and it may save you from downloading additional programs.
I can't say this is generally true but I wouldn't be surprised if it is. If a site offers a portable version of a program. that program may not have any additional programs bundled with it. By definition, a portable program makes no changes to your system.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner
Can you get it off ninite?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
I didn't keep the messages in the current CCleaner thread but I thought I should raise this very important point. CCleaner, as do so many free programs now comes bundled with one or more programs you probably don't want. Some of these programs cause people problems as well.
Don't download and install the regular version of CCleaner. Use either the portable version or the version that is called something like the slim version.
Gene
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Well avast you don't want, google toolbar you probably don't want.
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But chrome, to be honest when does stuff become unwanted if you use it. Like for example if you use avast, and or chrome, if it was bundled, its 1 less thing to load. Avast and chrome are not the issue, its all this opencandy stuff. Windows defender is supposed next month to be able to be more aggressive with scareware etc which sadly seems to be more false positives nad probably more targeting of the disabled, for games and other programs.
On 6/02/2018 11:57 a.m., Arlene wrote:
I should say the unwanted stuff like google chrome or other stuff.
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Gene
Avast shouldn't be installed and run if you are
already using another antivirus program.
Gene
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing
CCleaner But chrome, to be honest when does stuff become unwanted if you use it. Like for example if you use avast, and or chrome, if it was bundled, its 1 less thing to load. Avast and chrome are not the issue, its all this opencandy stuff. Windows defender is supposed next month to be able to be more aggressive with scareware etc which sadly seems to be more false positives nad probably more targeting of the disabled, for games and other programs. On 6/02/2018 11:57 a.m., Arlene wrote: > I should say the unwanted stuff like google chrome or other stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin > Cussick via Groups.Io > Sent: February-05-18 2:46 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner > > sorry no. > > On 05/02/2018 21:44, Arlene wrote: >> Can you get it off ninite? >> >> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of >> *Gene >> *Sent:* February-05-18 10:11 AM >> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io >> *Subject:* [nvda] important to read before installing CCleaner >> >> I didn't keep the messages in the current CCleaner thread but I >> thought I should raise this very important point. >> >> CCleaner, as do so many free programs now comes bundled with one or >> more programs you probably don't want. Some of these programs cause >> people problems as well. >> >> Don't download and install the regular version of CCleaner. Use >> either the portable version or the version that is called something >> like the slim version. >> >> Gene >> >> > > > > > > . >
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Felix G.
I actually got my first installation of Chrome from installing CCleaner, and then I thought, since it's there now, might as well have a look at it. That was the only time I installed something by accident and then actually kept it around because I liked it. Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Di., 6. Feb. 2018 um 02:03 Uhr:
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