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Brian's Mail list account #3738 Might also be a good idea to create a ticket with it as well, as it could be that they can duplicate the effect. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete" <emac00@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is The error that sticks out for me is: WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call before you tare up your computer looking for hardware reasons check the visual c++ / number instalations I don't know how to repair them, since removeing and reinstalling doesn't seem to fix it. On 5/2/2016 5:30 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote: Hi if you want i can forward the log you sent over to the nvda developers li9st. Kenny Peyatt jr. On 5/2/2016 3:15 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: I forgot to mention that last log was made in the old snapshot I have, not the official installation. But I would still like a translation of those errors from someone who understands them better than I do. On 3/05/2016 2:17 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first—that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Pete <emac00@...> #3697 The error that sticks out for me is: WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call before you tare up your computer looking for hardware reasons check the visual c++ / number instalations I don't know how to repair them, since removeing and reinstalling doesn't seem to fix it. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 5/2/2016 5:30 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote: Hi if you want i can forward the log you sent over to the nvda developers li9st. Kenny Peyatt jr. On 5/2/2016 3:15 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: I forgot to mention that last log was made in the old snapshot I have, not the official installation. But I would still like a translation of those errors from someone who understands them better than I do. On 3/05/2016 2:17 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first—that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Sharni-Lee Ward #3639 The problem with the Linda voice that I was experiencing was that she basically sounded like she was distorted by being at max volume and too close to a microphone at the same time, and there was something about the way she sounded that was hurting my ears. I couldn't bear it! Were you using headphones? I was. As for the Braille Table thing, I was particularly annoyed by a few of the inconsistencies because I got the Braille Display specifically to be able to read fanfics and other things in Braille, as well as write in my native writing language, so to speak. I haven't written much with the display, partly because NVDA does not currently allow one to input contracted Braille (which makes it less fluid for me to write, especially when I accidentally do a contraction and have to delete a number flanked by slashes), and partly because of the issue described in this thread, though I haven't tried typing with the display when it's connected for a long period. I wish I could type in Grade 2. Jaws users can. :( toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 4/05/2016 6:32 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: There are some comments about this table issue I noticed in the keynote speech which I listened to. Did not understand it though. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is nvda_snapshot_brltbl_20160315 is the name of the file in the list, if that's what you mean. I got it back in March and although the experimental UEB tables added to it weren't perfect (Joseph told me it was no trivial matter to fix the minor problems I brought up when I was first testing it) it's better than the current one, which lacks "ea", "cc" and "ff" contractions, as well as only showing format terminators and emdashes (among other symbols) being replaced with eight cells of weird code that disrupt the flow of reading. On 4/05/2016 8:21 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote: The espeak bug is fixed in next. That should graduate to master soon, if people don't find problems with it. For the braille table, what snapshot are you using now? You'll probably need to merge it when 2016.2 comes out. On 5/3/2016 1:38 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward <mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <<mailto:nedster66@...>nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@... <mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Brian's Mail list account #3611 There are some comments about this table issue I noticed in the keynote speech which I listened to. Did not understand it though. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is nvda_snapshot_brltbl_20160315 is the name of the file in the list, if that's what you mean. I got it back in March and although the experimental UEB tables added to it weren't perfect (Joseph told me it was no trivial matter to fix the minor problems I brought up when I was first testing it) it's better than the current one, which lacks "ea", "cc" and "ff" contractions, as well as only showing format terminators and emdashes (among other symbols) being replaced with eight cells of weird code that disrupt the flow of reading. On 4/05/2016 8:21 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote: The espeak bug is fixed in next. That should graduate to master soon, if people don't find problems with it. For the braille table, what snapshot are you using now? You'll probably need to merge it when 2016.2 comes out. On 5/3/2016 1:38 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward <mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <<mailto:nedster66@...>nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@... <mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Brian's Mail list account #3609 I've just been testing master and next and i cannot hear any difference between them here on this machine. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is The espeak bug is fixed in next. That should graduate to master soon, if people don't find problems with it. For the braille table, what snapshot are you using now? You'll probably need to merge it when 2016.2 comes out. On 5/3/2016 1:38 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward <mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <<mailto:nedster66@...>nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@... <mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Brian's Mail list account #3607 Not noticed any change to Espeak here, but then I use Quincy and it may not show up. Sometimes you can get different sounds by switching the thing away from sound mapper to the bespoke driver for the soune hardware you use. as for Braille, I cannot say, though others on this list have claimed that the master snap has a better version. As a Matter of interest, have you tried the next snasnapshot as although there are dire warnings about this, the current one seems to be pretty stable. brian I wonder if its possible to import the old table into the newer version? Youwould need to ask this on the development list as its probably a bit advanced for here. brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward<mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@...<mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@...<mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <<mailto:nedster66@...>nedster66@...<mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@...<mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@...<mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...<mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...<mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Brian's Mail list account #3606 Yes the master branch is the one that will become the release candidate in a couple of weeks or so. Have a look here. http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Sharni-Lee Ward #3568 nvda_snapshot_brltbl_20160315 is the name of the file in the list, if that's what you mean. I got it back in March and although the experimental UEB tables added to it weren't perfect (Joseph told me it was no trivial matter to fix the minor problems I brought up when I was first testing it) it's better than the current one, which lacks "ea", "cc" and "ff" contractions, as well as only showing format terminators and emdashes (among other symbols) being replaced with eight cells of weird code that disrupt the flow of reading. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 4/05/2016 8:21 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote: The espeak bug is fixed in next. That should graduate to master soon, if people don't find problems with it. For the braille table, what snapshot are you using now? You'll probably need to merge it when 2016.2 comes out. On 5/3/2016 1:38 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward <mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <<mailto:nedster66@...>nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@... <mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Tyler Spivey #3564 The espeak bug is fixed in next. That should graduate to master soon, if people don't find problems with it. For the braille table, what snapshot are you using now? You'll probably need to merge it when 2016.2 comes out. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 5/3/2016 1:38 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward <mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <<mailto:nedster66@...>nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...> Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@... <mailto:nedster66@...>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@... <mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Shaun Everiss #3560 Thats true brian. update week is next week, and I hope the patches I made to the main box hold up otherwise if my office breaks again and my fixits don't work its a reformat, I don't know if they will break but lets see if they do. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/05/2016 8:29 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. .
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Gene #3556 Also, I wonder if you can remove the Braille tables that are provided and put in tables from an older version of NVDA. I don't know anything about this but again, this might be a topic of value that someone else might discuss here or that you might be able to discuss with developers. Gene From: Gene Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Maybe it's good that you tried a snapshot. You may have comments that would be of value to developers. I believe there is a developers list or perhaps a way to leave comments for developers on the web site but someone else will have to comment on that further. Gene ----- original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from > a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by > windows. > > Beware however, as next week is update week. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is > > >> Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and >> then go >> into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the >> last >> resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go >> ahead and >> do one. Good luck! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] >> Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >> >> It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, >> but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling >> and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer >> than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, >> and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know >> how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this >> happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it >> didn't work...). >> >> >> Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why >> this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. >> >> >> INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): >> Starting NVDA >> INFO - core.main (00:26:19): >> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> NVDA version brltbl20160315 >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): >> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): >> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >> INFO - core.main (00:26:24): >> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >> INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): >> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): >> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): >> Braille input initialized >> INFO - core.main (00:26:25): >> NVDA initialized >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): >> Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 >> cells. >> ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): >> Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets >> WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the >> client to the host during a remote procedure call >> >> >> On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>> Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, >>> namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then >>> arrowing to >>> the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille >>> Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the >>> window >>> was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate >>> Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up >>> mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the >>> warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly >>> different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille >>> error >>> that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by >>> extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the >>> configuration with default as No Braille. >>> >>> >>> INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): >>> Starting NVDA >>> INFO - core.main (18:51:59): >>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> NVDA version 2016.1 >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): >>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): >>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:11): >>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >>> INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >>> ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Error initializing display driver >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName >>> File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in >> __init__ >>> RuntimeError: No display found >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Braille input initialized >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:12): >>> NVDA initialized >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): >>> Base configuration saved >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): >>> Windows session ending >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>>> If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release >>>> (which >>>> is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? >>>> Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to >>>> connect >>>> it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually >>>> have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the >>>> display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to >>>> sleep. If >>>> the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration >>>> again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's >>>> method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all >>>> your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log >>>> messages >>>> now! :D >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: >>>>> I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the >>>>> braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to >>>>> have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with >>>>> one of >>>>> those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> bglists@... >>>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>>> Please address personal email to:- >>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>> in the display name field. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> >>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to >>>>>> cause this >>>>>> freezing? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] >>>>>> Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM >>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>>> >>>>>> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. >>>>>> Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Gene #3554 Maybe it's good that you tried a snapshot. You may have comments that would be of value to developers. I believe there is a developers list or perhaps a way to leave comments for developers on the web site but someone else will have to comment on that further. Gene ----- original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 3:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from > a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by > windows. > > Beware however, as next week is update week. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is > > >> Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and >> then go >> into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the >> last >> resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go >> ahead and >> do one. Good luck! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] >> Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >> >> It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, >> but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling >> and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer >> than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, >> and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know >> how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this >> happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it >> didn't work...). >> >> >> Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why >> this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. >> >> >> INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): >> Starting NVDA >> INFO - core.main (00:26:19): >> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> NVDA version brltbl20160315 >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): >> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): >> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >> INFO - core.main (00:26:24): >> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >> INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): >> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): >> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): >> Braille input initialized >> INFO - core.main (00:26:25): >> NVDA initialized >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): >> Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 >> cells. >> ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): >> Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets >> WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the >> client to the host during a remote procedure call >> >> >> On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>> Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, >>> namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then >>> arrowing to >>> the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille >>> Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the >>> window >>> was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate >>> Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up >>> mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the >>> warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly >>> different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille >>> error >>> that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by >>> extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the >>> configuration with default as No Braille. >>> >>> >>> INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): >>> Starting NVDA >>> INFO - core.main (18:51:59): >>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> NVDA version 2016.1 >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): >>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): >>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:11): >>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >>> INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >>> ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Error initializing display driver >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName >>> File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in >> __init__ >>> RuntimeError: No display found >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Braille input initialized >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:12): >>> NVDA initialized >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): >>> Base configuration saved >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): >>> Windows session ending >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>>> If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release >>>> (which >>>> is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? >>>> Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to >>>> connect >>>> it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually >>>> have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the >>>> display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to >>>> sleep. If >>>> the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration >>>> again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's >>>> method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all >>>> your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log >>>> messages >>>> now! :D >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: >>>>> I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the >>>>> braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to >>>>> have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with >>>>> one of >>>>> those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> bglists@... >>>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>>> Please address personal email to:- >>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>> in the display name field. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> >>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to >>>>>> cause this >>>>>> freezing? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] >>>>>> Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM >>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>>> >>>>>> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. >>>>>> Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Sharni-Lee Ward #3551 ...What HAPPENED to the espeak voice? It sounds choppy and distorted (at least Linda does) and it was honestly hurting my ears. And the Master snapshot doesn't have the braille table I'd prefer to use, which is why I got that other snapshot when I did. The newer more experimental table fixed the problem of emdashes being replaced by eight cells of nonsense that took up more space than necessary, and formatting representations, and missed contractions... I can't use this. On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from > a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by > windows. > > Beware however, as next week is update week. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is > > >> Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and >> then go >> into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the >> last >> resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go >> ahead and >> do one. Good luck! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] >> Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >> >> It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, >> but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling >> and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer >> than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, >> and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know >> how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this >> happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it >> didn't work...). >> >> >> Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why >> this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. >> >> >> INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): >> Starting NVDA >> INFO - core.main (00:26:19): >> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> NVDA version brltbl20160315 >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): >> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): >> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >> INFO - core.main (00:26:24): >> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >> INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): >> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): >> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): >> Braille input initialized >> INFO - core.main (00:26:25): >> NVDA initialized >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): >> Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 >> cells. >> ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): >> Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets >> WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the >> client to the host during a remote procedure call >> >> >> On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>> Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, >>> namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then >>> arrowing to >>> the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille >>> Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the >>> window >>> was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate >>> Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up >>> mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the >>> warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly >>> different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille >>> error >>> that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by >>> extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the >>> configuration with default as No Braille. >>> >>> >>> INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): >>> Starting NVDA >>> INFO - core.main (18:51:59): >>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> NVDA version 2016.1 >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): >>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): >>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:11): >>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >>> INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >>> ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Error initializing display driver >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName >>> File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in >> __init__ >>> RuntimeError: No display found >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Braille input initialized >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:12): >>> NVDA initialized >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): >>> Base configuration saved >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): >>> Windows session ending >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>>> If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release >>>> (which >>>> is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? >>>> Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to >>>> connect >>>> it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually >>>> have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the >>>> display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to >>>> sleep. If >>>> the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration >>>> again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's >>>> method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all >>>> your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log >>>> messages >>>> now! :D >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: >>>>> I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the >>>>> braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to >>>>> have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with >>>>> one of >>>>> those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> bglists@... >>>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>>> Please address personal email to:- >>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>> in the display name field. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> >>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to >>>>>> cause this >>>>>> freezing? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] >>>>>> Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM >>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>>> >>>>>> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. >>>>>> Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Sharni-Lee Ward #3548 Thanks Gene! Downloading now. :D On 4/05/2016 5:47 AM, Gene wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from > a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by > windows. > > Beware however, as next week is update week. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is > > >> Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and >> then go >> into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the >> last >> resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go >> ahead and >> do one. Good luck! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] >> Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >> >> It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, >> but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling >> and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer >> than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, >> and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know >> how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this >> happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it >> didn't work...). >> >> >> Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why >> this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. >> >> >> INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): >> Starting NVDA >> INFO - core.main (00:26:19): >> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> NVDA version brltbl20160315 >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): >> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): >> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >> INFO - core.main (00:26:24): >> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >> INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): >> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): >> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): >> Braille input initialized >> INFO - core.main (00:26:25): >> NVDA initialized >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): >> Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 >> cells. >> ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): >> Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets >> WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the >> client to the host during a remote procedure call >> >> >> On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>> Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, >>> namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then >>> arrowing to >>> the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille >>> Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the >>> window >>> was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate >>> Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up >>> mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the >>> warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly >>> different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille >>> error >>> that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by >>> extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the >>> configuration with default as No Braille. >>> >>> >>> INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): >>> Starting NVDA >>> INFO - core.main (18:51:59): >>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> NVDA version 2016.1 >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): >>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): >>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:11): >>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >>> INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >>> ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Error initializing display driver >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName >>> File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in >> __init__ >>> RuntimeError: No display found >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Braille input initialized >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:12): >>> NVDA initialized >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): >>> Base configuration saved >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): >>> Windows session ending >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>>> If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release >>>> (which >>>> is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? >>>> Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to >>>> connect >>>> it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually >>>> have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the >>>> display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to >>>> sleep. If >>>> the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration >>>> again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's >>>> method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all >>>> your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log >>>> messages >>>> now! :D >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: >>>>> I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the >>>>> braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to >>>>> have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with >>>>> one of >>>>> those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> bglists@... >>>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>>> Please address personal email to:- >>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>> in the display name field. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> >>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to >>>>>> cause this >>>>>> freezing? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] >>>>>> Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM >>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>>> >>>>>> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. >>>>>> Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Gene #3539 I believe the new production version will be released in about a month. However, I would expect the master snapshot to be probably stable or reasonably stable. You can use a portable version if you want to evaluate it without installing it. I haven't used new snapshots fir a while but my experience in the past has been that the snapshots I've used have been stable. That doesn't mean that they all are. They are versions still in development and not beta tested. The page to see and download the latest snapshots is http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/ Gene toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from > a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by > windows. > > Beware however, as next week is update week. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is > > >> Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and >> then go >> into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the >> last >> resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go >> ahead and >> do one. Good luck! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] >> Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >> >> It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, >> but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling >> and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer >> than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, >> and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know >> how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this >> happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it >> didn't work...). >> >> >> Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why >> this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. >> >> >> INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): >> Starting NVDA >> INFO - core.main (00:26:19): >> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> NVDA version brltbl20160315 >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >> INFO - core.main (00:26:20): >> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): >> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): >> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >> INFO - core.main (00:26:24): >> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >> INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): >> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): >> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): >> Braille input initialized >> INFO - core.main (00:26:25): >> NVDA initialized >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): >> Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 >> cells. >> ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): >> Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate >> File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets >> File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets >> WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the >> client to the host during a remote procedure call >> >> >> On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>> Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, >>> namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then >>> arrowing to >>> the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille >>> Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the >>> window >>> was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate >>> Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up >>> mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the >>> warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly >>> different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille >>> error >>> that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by >>> extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the >>> configuration with default as No Braille. >>> >>> >>> INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): >>> Starting NVDA >>> INFO - core.main (18:51:59): >>> Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> NVDA version 2016.1 >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, >>> 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:00): >>> Using comtypes version 0.6.2 >>> INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): >>> Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 >>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): >>> Loaded synthDriver ptenglish >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:11): >>> Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) >>> INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Using liblouis version 2.6.5 >>> ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Error initializing display driver >>> Traceback (most recent call last): >>> File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName >>> File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in >> __init__ >>> RuntimeError: No display found >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): >>> Braille input initialized >>> INFO - core.main (18:52:12): >>> NVDA initialized >>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): >>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. >>> INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): >>> Base configuration saved >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): >>> Core frozen in stack: >>> File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> >>> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop >>> File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop >>> File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll >>> File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ >>> File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next >>> File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground >>> File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ >> >> init__.py", >>> line 117, in cancel >>> File >>> >> "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e >> >> speak.py", >>> line 224, in stop >>> File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop >>> File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire >>> >>> INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): >>> Windows session ending >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: >>>> If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release >>>> (which >>>> is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? >>>> Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to >>>> connect >>>> it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually >>>> have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the >>>> display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to >>>> sleep. If >>>> the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration >>>> again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's >>>> method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all >>>> your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log >>>> messages >>>> now! :D >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: >>>>> I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the >>>>> braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to >>>>> have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with >>>>> one of >>>>> those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> bglists@... >>>>> Sent via blueyonder. >>>>> Please address personal email to:- >>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>>>> in the display name field. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> >>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to >>>>>> cause this >>>>>> freezing? >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] >>>>>> Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM >>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is >>>>>> >>>>>> Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>>>>>> Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. >>>>>> Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The >>>>>> only >>>>>> thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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Sharni-Lee Ward #3532 Hi, The reason the driver was still trying to do something was that I had used the old snapshot I had in conjunction with my display to read for a bit, then had disconnected the display without resetting the "display" setting in Braille Settings to "No Braille". As I said, it lasted longer, but still locked up at the most inconvenient time... Can I have a link to this master snapshot? And is this building toward the next release or are some things not ready for that yet? If the former, when is the next release? Is it some time this month, or next? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/05/2016 6:29 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Brian's Mail list account #3500 No, to me unless there has been some significant malware or crash from a bit of software, then the registry can be repaired automatically by windows. Beware however, as next week is update week. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hey, before you have to format the computer. Why not run chkdsk and then go into the bios and see what can be the problem. I'd use format as the last resort. Or if you just want to do it and get it over with. then go ahead and do one. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...] Sent: May-02-16 9:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first-that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__ init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_e speak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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Brian's Mail list account #3499 Exactly. Just do one thing at a time and test as I say disable to driver or remove it then test a lot. However I'd test with the master snapshot first before doing anything if you have not done so. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is ...I don't even know what you mean by half of what you said and all of it sounds terrifying. All I can say is that since this wasn't happening before I got my Braille Display, and that NVDA updated to 2016.1 only a few days before I got said Braille Display, that I can only imagine it is the culprit somehow. I don't have the bandwidth to chase down software currently and the prospect of spending hours and hours doing things that have me on edge the entire time and possibly not solving my problem in any way (like when Firefox was acting up last year) makes me very uncomfortable. I don't think this warrants such an extreme. It's probably the driver for my Braille Display, as I had it plugged in for a little while in conjunction with the snapshot, so I could read some things in Braille, and then I disconnected it before I went to write. It lasted a lot longer than it did previously, though it was at times slow to respond. I'm a pretty fast typer when I get going so I thought it was possible the system wasn't keeping up with my typing for some reason, although Thunderbird's fine with it. On 3/05/2016 6:51 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote: Hmmm well this is getting stranger and stranger. Right now it could be anything from your braille display drivers to hardware. Firstly I'd tackle the os. Since I don't know what is going on I suggest you just reformat. Next I'd like you to do a chkdsk on the hard drive. I'd also like you to do a hdd analisis with speedfan which you can get online. It almost looks like malware got in, or a bad drive or something like that. I have not had things like this on my systems but when I have it has been dust in the system or a blocked fan. I did a clearout of a system and replaced the power supply, and regreased the heat sink and it got rid of that sucker. Another thing you can do I guess is to get ccleaner go to the tools and startup pain and save a text file of the startup programs and also go to brouser cleanup and save the text files of that. Anyway send me those files off list and maybe I can help you. We need to establish if it freezes with nvda loaded. I'd also like you to get a boot cd or one of them and get a sightling actually run a memmory diagnostic for you. I'd like a malware and virus scan to be run though it sounds like hardware. I'd also do a stress test with pcpitstop. While pcpitstop is sensitive and wrigged for you to buy their software and also while its got some adds in it, it is still a good tool in telling you what could be the problem. Next I'd also like to get updated drivers for your hardware intel and amd have driver updaters intel driver update and amd drive autodetect are what come to mind. I'd also like to get a bios upgrade. Out of all these it sounds like a bad power supply, busted fan or overheating unit. However if a sightling can do things without it locking well this is getting a bit hard to diagnose now. On 3/05/2016 4:17 a.m., Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first—that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. .
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Brian's Mail list account #3498 I agree about chkdsk, but not reformatting and reinstalling. I never solved anything permanently by doing this, at least not after Windows 98! I'd remove the driver next or at least disable it in the device manager. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hmmm well this is getting stranger and stranger. Right now it could be anything from your braille display drivers to hardware. Firstly I'd tackle the os. Since I don't know what is going on I suggest you just reformat. Next I'd like you to do a chkdsk on the hard drive. I'd also like you to do a hdd analisis with speedfan which you can get online. It almost looks like malware got in, or a bad drive or something like that. I have not had things like this on my systems but when I have it has been dust in the system or a blocked fan. I did a clearout of a system and replaced the power supply, and regreased the heat sink and it got rid of that sucker. Another thing you can do I guess is to get ccleaner go to the tools and startup pain and save a text file of the startup programs and also go to brouser cleanup and save the text files of that. Anyway send me those files off list and maybe I can help you. We need to establish if it freezes with nvda loaded. I'd also like you to get a boot cd or one of them and get a sightling actually run a memmory diagnostic for you. I'd like a malware and virus scan to be run though it sounds like hardware. I'd also do a stress test with pcpitstop. While pcpitstop is sensitive and wrigged for you to buy their software and also while its got some adds in it, it is still a good tool in telling you what could be the problem. Next I'd also like to get updated drivers for your hardware intel and amd have driver updaters intel driver update and amd drive autodetect are what come to mind. I'd also like to get a bios upgrade. Out of all these it sounds like a bad power supply, busted fan or overheating unit. However if a sightling can do things without it locking well this is getting a bit hard to diagnose now. On 3/05/2016 4:17 a.m., Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first—that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys. .
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Brian's Mail list account #3497 I see by this log that the driver for the display is still being seen. Is it possible to uninstall it and then set no Braille and see what happens. The error seems to be saying that the display is trying to do something that it cannot, ie its out of range or something and if the driver is doing this it should go away if its a completely clean system. I'd warn agains reinstalling the operating system or whatever, as all that achieves is mega hassle and a ticking time bomb until the problem starts again. Best to try to find the smoking gun, or at least that has been my experience of such things in the past. Might be worth airing this on the dev list. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is I forgot to mention that last log was made in the old snapshot I have, not the official installation. But I would still like a translation of those errors from someone who understands them better than I do. On 3/05/2016 2:17 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: It just happened AGAIN. This time, with no Braille Display plugged in, but still in Word. My sister described what she saw as "It's circling and the screen is foggy," so I'm assuming it was hanging. It took longer than normal to shut down, and longer than normal to start up properly, and apparently Windows Explorer lagged for a few seconds. I don't know how to recover my writing (I tried one of the previous times this happened by restoring the auto recovery file from the Recycle bin but it didn't work...). Anyways, here's the log. I hope this time I can get an answer for why this is happening. I'm getting seriously concerned at this point. INFO - __main__ (00:26:15): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (00:26:19): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (00:26:20): NVDA version brltbl20160315 INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (00:26:20): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (00:26:24): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (00:26:24): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (00:26:24): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (00:26:24): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:26:24): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (00:26:24): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (00:26:25): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (00:27:25): Loaded braille display driver freedomScientific, current display has 40 cells. ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (00:33:30): Error in func _handleUpdate from eventQueue Traceback (most recent call last): File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 674, in _handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 1645, in handleUpdate File "braille.pyc", line 906, in update File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 346, in expand File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 314, in _getUnitOffsets File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 328, in _getUnitOffsets File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 256, in _getParagraphOffsets WindowsError: [Error 1775] A null context handle was passed from the client to the host during a remote procedure call On 3/05/2016 12:15 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: Just tried another thing that consistently got NVDA to hang recently, namely, opening the sounds manager in Control Panel and then arrowing to the Sound Scheme tab. I thought it only did this because of the Braille Display but I wanted to test it to make sure. This time, once the window was closed, NVDA started responding again. I also tried to activate Narrator but it didn't work, though as I said, that didn't end up mattering. Here's the log for that session, though I warn you, the warning repeats itself several times. In case each warning was subtly different, I copied the whole thing. Don't worry about the Braille error that shows up first—that's about me starting up the computer and by extension NVDA without my display plugged in and then saving the configuration with default as No Braille. INFO - __main__ (18:51:56): Starting NVDA INFO - core.main (18:51:59): Config dir: C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda INFO - core.main (18:52:00): NVDA version 2016.1 INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using Python version 2.7.11 (v2.7.11:6d1b6a68f775, Dec 5 2015, 20:32:19) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (18:52:00): Using comtypes version 0.6.2 INFO - external:synthDrivers.ptenglish.SynthDriver.__init__ (18:52:10): Using eSpeak version 1.48.03 04.Mar.14 INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:52:11): Loaded synthDriver ptenglish INFO - core.main (18:52:11): Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic) INFO - braille.initialize (18:52:11): Using liblouis version 2.6.5 ERROR - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Error initializing display driver Traceback (most recent call last): File "braille.pyo", line 1447, in setDisplayByName File "brailleDisplayDrivers\freedomScientific.pyo", line 179, in __init__ RuntimeError: No display found INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:52:11): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:52:11): Braille input initialized INFO - core.main (18:52:12): NVDA initialized INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (19:30:34): Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells. INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (19:30:39): Base configuration saved WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:47:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:35): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:48:50): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:05): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire WARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:49:20): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 382, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 353, in Notify File "queueHandler.pyo", line 83, in pumpAll File "queueHandler.pyo", line 50, in flushQueue File "eventHandler.pyo", line 61, in _queueEventCallback File "eventHandler.pyo", line 138, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 162, in doPreGainFocus File "eventHandler.pyo", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyo", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyo", line 98, in next File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 868, in event_foreground File "speech.pyo", line 107, in cancelSpeech File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\__init__.py", line 117, in cancel File "C:\Users\pc\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\protalker\synthDrivers\ptenglish\_espeak.py", line 224, in stop File "nvwave.pyo", line 244, in stop File "threading.pyo", line 174, in acquire INFO - core.onEndSession (23:54:04): Windows session ending On 2/05/2016 7:29 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote: If the master snapshots fixed it, does this mean the next release (which is hopefully coming sometime this month or next) will have the fix? Because if so, I can just change the configuration so I have to connect it manually when I want to use it, which isn't a problem as I usually have to re-activate the Braille settings if I have to disconnect the display for one reason or another, or if the computer's put to sleep. If the fix is implemented next release, I'll adjust the configuration again. If it does happen again despite this measure, I will try Gene's method, although I suspect it will be fine. Thank you everyone for all your help and tips, and at least I know how to retrieve old log messages now! :D On 2/05/2016 7:02 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: I don't think its malware, reading the thread it sounds like the braill table part of nvda and the master snapshots are supposed to have now fixed it. Its been a while since I had a computer with one of those displays. fartoo expensive for the low usage I have. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Hi there: Do you think your computer could have mellwhere to cause this freezing? -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:captinlogic@...] Sent: May-01-16 6:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still freezing, don't know what the deal is Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: Why wouldn't my workaround accomplish the same end but more easily. Because most of the keyboard is frozen when this freeze happens. The only thing that works is the windows key and some function keys.
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