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Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...> #37447 Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Christo de Klerk #37448 I am using Firefox 59 with the latest Master snapshot of NVDA and am not experiencing any problems with it at all. In fact, I have returned to the Fox again after spending some months with Chrome. Regards Christo toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 2018/03/23 2:01 PM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Brian Moore #37449 Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Clare Page <clare.page@...> #37452 Hi! I currently use Firefox 59 with NVDA 2018.1 on a 64-bit Windows 7 computer with no problems, after several months of using Firefox 52 ESR. Is it possible that Firefox Quantum doesn't work well with 32-bit Windows? Just a thought! I'm not tech-savvy enough to answer my question, I admit that. Bye for now! From Clare toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:33 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? I am using Firefox 59 with the latest Master snapshot of NVDA and am not experiencing any problems with it at all. In fact, I have returned to the Fox again after spending some months with Chrome. Regards Christo On 2018/03/23 2:01 PM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Gerardo Corripio #37453 I too am using Firefox59 with NVDA2018.1, but the thing is when a file is finished downloading, I no longer hear the sound that let's me know of this, when before with Firefox 56 I would. toggle quoted message Show quoted text El 23/03/2018 a las 06:47 a.m., Brian Moore escribió: Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- Gera Enviado desde Thunderbird
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Clare Page <clare.page@...> #37454 Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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zahra #37456 hi walmier did you use firefox 56 without any problem? i wish that know the percentage of accessibility of firefox 56 with nvda. does it work without any issues? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/23/18, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote: Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...> #37457 Yes, 56 was the last version I used successfully. Em 23/03/2018 10:51, zahra escreveu: toggle quoted message Show quoted text hi walmier did you use firefox 56 without any problem? i wish that know the percentage of accessibility of firefox 56 with nvda. does it work without any issues? On 3/23/18, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote: Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Roger Stewart #37458 Yes, I get progress beeps again. They were gone in 58 and I couldn't up or down arrow in that downloads list at all, but all is good again in 59. Roger toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/23/2018 8:03 AM, Clare Page wrote: Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. .
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Ron Canazzi #37459 Hi Walmir, Using Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1, I have never had any such issues. I am on Firefox 59.01--the latest version and everything is great. I am wondering if your Windows 7 is the basic 7 or service pack1. If you have been following this list at all, you will see that NVDA 2018.1 will no longer support any system earlier than Windows 7 Service Pack 1. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/23/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Ron Canazzi #37460 Hi Clare, I also have a Windows 7 32 bit service pack 1 system and Firefox works fine on that with NVDA 2018.1system. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 3/23/2018 8:56 AM, Clare Page wrote: Hi! I currently use Firefox 59 with NVDA 2018.1 on a 64-bit Windows 7 computer with no problems, after several months of using Firefox 52 ESR. Is it possible that Firefox Quantum doesn't work well with 32-bit Windows? Just a thought! I'm not tech-savvy enough to answer my question, I admit that. Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:33 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? I am using Firefox 59 with the latest Master snapshot of NVDA and am not experiencing any problems with it at all. In fact, I have returned to the Fox again after spending some months with Chrome. Regards Christo On 2018/03/23 2:01 PM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Shaun Everiss #37469 Well no, I do think we should keep pushing firefox to do better, the break through build is 2.6 or there abouts. I just don't care for the inaccessibility of some of the way addons are structured now, noscript is one of the things. And the sounds ofcause. Waterfox works for me, and if they update to their own brouser its still going to use the older structure, an updated addon store, etc, some of the older addons, noscripts etc will no longer be updated anymore, so no more addon updates ever, but then again, most of the protection is there and will work for ages at any rate. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 24/03/2018 1:01 a.m., Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. .
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Brian's Mail list account #37491 52esr is the most up to date of the old design. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io" <wsautodidata@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Yes, 56 was the last version I used successfully. Em 23/03/2018 10:51, zahra escreveu: hi walmier did you use firefox 56 without any problem? i wish that know the percentage of accessibility of firefox 56 with nvda. does it work without any issues? On 3/23/18, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote: Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Brian's Mail list account #37493 Well, unless you have a problem, 59 is a heck of a lot more accessible than 57 was. I'd be interested as a 7 user, what your issues are. I have 58 here portable and it seems to mostly work, except for the download window. Could it be that something is wrong with your machines registry? I to use 52 esr, but only because of the download issue and lack of system sound ability for events in the new system. Its my choice. Many are using Waterfox , but not tried that one yet, I'd hate to go down that road and then find they switch to the quantum engine as well.If its any consolation I have friends with Supernova and Jaws who are finding Firefox almost unusable. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io" <wsautodidata@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 12:01 PM Subject: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Brian's Mail list account #37494 Yes same here, which is why I'm back on 52. This needs sorting. However all the devs will be back from their jolly to America soon. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Moore" <bmoore@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Brian's Mail list account #37495 Thank you yes as I said at the start of this, not allowing navigational sounds is a big minus for me along with the lack of download window access. has anyone filed a issue on the github for the window issue? Fixing this would go a long way to fixing the problem, but ideally if Mozilla put in optional system sounds for events that would also be a great thing to have, so some kind of issue on the Firefox site would be good to point this omission out. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerardo Corripio" <gera1027@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? I too am using Firefox59 with NVDA2018.1, but the thing is when a file is finished downloading, I no longer hear the sound that let's me know of this, when before with Firefox 56 I would. El 23/03/2018 a las 06:47 a.m., Brian Moore escribió: Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- Gera Enviado desde Thunderbird
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Brian's Mail list account #37496 Well thee are atleast two of us here with non speaking download windows using windows 764, so there has to be a reason for it. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Page" <clare.page@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad.
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Brian's Mail list account #37497 It has issues in that the focus at the start is not on the window with the page in it, apart from that its OK. I do believe though that for xp its 52 and for xp on amd processors its 48. The latter being not maintained for security updates. Waterfox is 64 bit only. SeaMonkey older versions seem to work on xp, but not tried any recent ones. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? hi walmier did you use firefox 56 without any problem? i wish that know the percentage of accessibility of firefox 56 with nvda. does it work without any issues? On 3/23/18, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote: Hi! That's interesting that you can't read the downloads window in Firefox 59, Brian! When I press control+j during a download, I can arrow up and down the downloads list as I used to be able to do, and, in the current download at the top of the list, I can still read the information I could read before, namely the file name, the percentage of the download that has been done, its source, and so on. I've never kept that downloads window open long enough in Firefox 59 to notice whether I get a progress bar, though: I don't hear the NVDA beeps for that at any time anyway, as I prefer speaking progress bars myself, but each to their own! Bye for now! From Clare -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Moore Sent: vendredi 23 mars 2018 13:47 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi. I am using 59.1 with NVDA 2018.1 with no major issues. Only issue I am having now is that the downloads window accessed with ctrl+j doesn't read at all for me. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 On 23/03/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Brian's Mail list account #37498 I don't think I've ever seen a windows 7 machine without sp1 for an age now. My feeling is that there are some flaky problems still there on the download page display, but I'm not sure quite why, unless its UI level related. I'm not sure what windows 7 supports and how this relates to firefox generally. I have mostly taken the decision to not use 10 on any machine I rely on to just work, due to Microsofts tendency to move the goalposts every 6 months. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Hi Walmir, Using Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1, I have never had any such issues. I am on Firefox 59.01--the latest version and everything is great. I am wondering if your Windows 7 is the basic 7 or service pack1. If you have been following this list at all, you will see that NVDA 2018.1 will no longer support any system earlier than Windows 7 Service Pack 1. On 3/23/2018 8:01 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Brian's Mail list account #37499 So what would you say are the main differences between firefox and waterfox for the user? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox Quantum incompatible with NVDA forever? Well no, I do think we should keep pushing firefox to do better, the break through build is 2.6 or there abouts. I just don't care for the inaccessibility of some of the way addons are structured now, noscript is one of the things. And the sounds ofcause. Waterfox works for me, and if they update to their own brouser its still going to use the older structure, an updated addon store, etc, some of the older addons, noscripts etc will no longer be updated anymore, so no more addon updates ever, but then again, most of the protection is there and will work for ages at any rate. On 24/03/2018 1:01 a.m., Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, Since Firefox Quantum (57, 58, 59, ,,,) NVDA is having incompatibility problems. Is it time to forget about Quantum? The 59 version is unusable because NVDA simply don't recognize the web page, it is "an unknown" objectt. I am using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 32 bits. I am still using Firefox 52 ESR, but almost changing to Chrome. Sadly, even Google recognized in its accessibility documentation that Firefox was the best browser to be used with NVDA.Very sad. .
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