2018.1.1 out yet?


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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Sam Taylor
 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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Davy Cuppens
 

No it is not!
 

From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?
 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Chris
 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Ron Canazzi
 

Hi  Davy,


I have 2018.1.1 and it was installed yesterday.  That's what it says in my help/about box for NVDA.



On 3/31/2018 6:44 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
No it is not!
 
From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?
 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Sam Taylor
 

Thank you Chris.

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.


On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well not according to the auto update on 2018.1, no it has not, as I just tested it to see if it had any updates pending.
Only the RC had the update which i have.
brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@me.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention
it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.



Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

And the actual fact is, nobody has posted anything here even about the rc being around as far as I can tell.
its not really sufficient to post anything to the web site without adding something to the user list so people are alerted. The old catch 22, if you are not aware an update is planned, you do not know to go look for it, and you don't know because most users with the release version are not going to get any indication that the RC2 is out are they?
Seems sensible to me that an autoposter as we used to see in the old days of Usenet might be a good thing for nvaccess to invoke any time they want to alert the users of this list to a new test version that has just the changes mentioned in the in process article, ie the fix for the sample rate change in windows 10.

is it just me that sees the logic in this?

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/


From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@nvaccess.org
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The fact is that i have 2018.1, and have forced it to look for updates this morning and its saying no update available, so how do you explain this? Its no personal slight, its the fact that obviously something is screwy here. Could it be that its only offering the update to the users running windows 10?
Seems a little odd as windows 7 does not have these voices so it would make no difference one way or the other!
Maybe some of us are in a parralell universe? :-)

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@me.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Thank you Chris.

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good
faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for
updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has
spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.


On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false
statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

*From: *Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@gmail.com>
*Sent: *31 March 2018 11:48
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

*From:*Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@me.com>

*Sent:*Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about
the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my
dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@nvaccess.org
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.



Sam Taylor
 

Hey Brian,

Odd that you did not receive an automatic update. You can download from https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2018.1.1/nvda_2018.1.1.exe

Cheers

Sam


On 31/03/2018 22:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well not according to the auto update on 2018.1, no it has not, as I just tested it to see if it had any updates pending.
Only the RC had the update which i have.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention
it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Just tested it and forced it to look. No update available. If I install an rc however, that updates to 2018.1.1rc2.
So I'll leave this with all you Hexperterts while i just go and glue my hair back in again.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Hi Davy,


I have 2018.1.1 and it was installed yesterday. That's what it says in
my help/about box for NVDA.



On 3/31/2018 6:44 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
No it is not!
*From:* Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@me.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@nvaccess.org
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Davy Cuppens
 

Chris
 
Sorry but I have always obtained my updates over the update function and that function still says NVDA 2018.1 is the latest version. I have checked again one minute ago.
I have no firewall or other security system preventing it to download.
Indeed I have checked the website and the version has come out you were right but is not implemented in the nvda update function under the help menu.
Regards
Davy
 

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?
 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


 


Davy Cuppens
 

Brian

Thank you very much for your support, it may be rude of stupid of me to simply say no it is not but as you already said, no statements were made and even people be aware that many many people do not read on support forum lists so that most of the blind community is still considering 2018.1 as the latest version.
Regards
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

And the actual fact is, nobody has posted anything here even about the rc
being around as far as I can tell.
its not really sufficient to post anything to the web site without adding
something to the user list so people are alerted. The old catch 22, if you
are not aware an update is planned, you do not know to go look for it, and
you don't know because most users with the release version are not going to
get any indication that the RC2 is out are they?
Seems sensible to me that an autoposter as we used to see in the old days
of Usenet might be a good thing for nvaccess to invoke any time they want to
alert the users of this list to a new test version that has just the
changes mentioned in the in process article, ie the fix for the sample rate
change in windows 10.

is it just me that sees the logic in this?

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false
statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/


From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

From: Sam Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc
either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it
for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@nvaccess.org
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


Davy Cuppens
 

Brian

I am sceptic too and will wait with the update until it appears in the update functionality of NVDA.
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

The fact is that i have 2018.1, and have forced it to look for updates this
morning and its saying no update available, so how do you explain this? Its
no personal slight, its the fact that obviously something is screwy here.
Could it be that its only offering the update to the users running windows
10?
Seems a little odd as windows 7 does not have these voices so it would make
no difference one way or the other!
Maybe some of us are in a parralell universe? :-)

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@me.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Thank you Chris.

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good
faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for
updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has
spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.


On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false
statements

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

*From: *Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@gmail.com>
*Sent: *31 March 2018 11:48
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

No it is not!

*From:*Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@me.com>

*Sent:*Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about
the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my
dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@nvaccess.org
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.



Davy Cuppens
 

Brian is right again, I have just rebooted NVDA and forced it too, no update available; maybe this update is not for Europe? grin.

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

Just tested it and forced it to look. No update available. If I install an
rc however, that updates to 2018.1.1rc2.
So I'll leave this with all you Hexperterts while i just go and glue my
hair back in again.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Hi Davy,


I have 2018.1.1 and it was installed yesterday. That's what it says in
my help/about box for NVDA.



On 3/31/2018 6:44 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
No it is not!
*From:* Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@me.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd
mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@nvaccess.org
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


Email has been weird this last week.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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Look at this.

INFO - __main__ (13:51:31.608):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.687):
Config dir: C:\nvda full release\userConfig
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:51:31.687):
Loading config: .\userConfig\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:51:31.703):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{u'schemaVersion': u'2', u'upgrade': {}, u'update': {u'autoCheck': u'True'}, u'general': {u'language': u'Windows', u'saveConfigurationOnExit': u'True', u'askToExit': u'False', u'playStartAndExitSounds': u'True', u'loggingLevel': u'DEBUG', u'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': u'False'}, u'speech': {u'synth': u'speechPlayerInEspeak', u'outputDevice': u'Microsoft Sound Mapper', u'espeak': {u'voice': u'en', u'variant': u'quincy', u'rate': u'40', u'pitch': u'40', u'inflection': u'75', u'volume': u'87', u'capPitchChange': u'36'}, u'mssp': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech Server\\v11.0\\Voices\\Tokens\\TTS_MS_en-GB_Hazel_11.0', u'volume': u'94', u'rate': u'60'}, u'sapi5': {u'voice': u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech\\Voices\\Tokens\\ScanSoftDaniel_Full_22kHz', u'volume': u'88', u'rate': u'60'}, u'sapi4': {u'voice': u'{BF5EAD40-9F65-11CF-8FC8-0020AF14F271}', u'rate': u'57', u'pitch': u'20', u'volume': u'50'}, u'dectalk': {u'voice': u'Dennis', u'rate': u'50', u'pitch': u'17', u'inflection': u'40'}, u'speechPlayerInEspeak': {u'voice': u'en', u'variant': u'quincy', u'rate': u'46', u'pitch': u'40', u'inflection': u'75', u'volume': u'88'}, u'pico': {u'voice': u'en-gb', u'volume': u'73', u'rate': u'54'}}, u'braille': {u'noBraille': {u'port': u''}}, u'mouse': {u'reportObjectRoleOnMouseEnter': u'True'}, u'presentation': {u'reportTooltips': u'True', u'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': u'True', u'progressBarUpdates': {u'progressBarOutputMode': u'both'}}, u'virtualBuffers': {u'autoPassThroughOnCaretMove': u'True', u'autoPassThroughOnFocusChange': u'True'}, u'documentFormatting': {u'reportAlignment': u'True', u'reportSpellingErrors': u'False', u'reportLineIndentation': u'True', u'reportBlockQuotes': u'False', u'autoLanguageSwitching': u'True'}}
DEBUG - core.main (13:51:31.733):
setting language to Windows
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
NVDA version 2018.1
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:51:31.733):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
DEBUG - core.main (13:51:31.733):

snip
of the usual stuff add ons and other config bits.


IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:05.302):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (13:52:05.351):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Check for update... c 9 of 10']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:06.461):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:52:07.283):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 473, in main
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 529, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 37, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 339, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyo", line 240, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent

DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (13:52:07.361):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (13:52:07.362):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.401):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Checking for Update dialog Checking for update']
IO - tones.beep (13:52:07.469):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.474):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Please wait']
IO - tones.beep (13:52:07.591):
Beep at pitch 110.0, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.596):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'0 percent']
IO - tones.beep (13:52:07.937):
Beep at pitch 1760, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.973):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'NVDA Update dialog No update available.']
IO - speech.speak (13:52:07.987):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Close button Alt+c']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (13:52:07.993):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:11.365):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - speech.speak (13:52:11.430):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u"Is it or isn't it out?"]
IO - speech.speak (13:52:11.536):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'document editable']
IO - speech.speak (13:52:11.545):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'space', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:52:15.605):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r

Whis is my shortcut to close and load thelog into notepad then reboot.

So, I've actually sent mick an email as although it will make no difference to me, if auto update is broken on portable versions, this might be an issue.
Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@me.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


Hey Brian,

Odd that you did not receive an automatic update. You can download from
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2018.1.1/nvda_2018.1.1.exe

Cheers

Sam


On 31/03/2018 22:33, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Well not according to the auto update on 2018.1, no it has not, as I
just tested it to see if it had any updates pending.
Only the RC had the update which i have.
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?


If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.


On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the
rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention
it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran <mick@nvaccess.org>
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Chris
 

ok I’m not doubting your install of nvda cant find any update

But that doesn’t mean their isn’t one

 

 

I just booted up my other laptop which i haven’t used for some time and the first thing i got was a update to nvda 18.1.1

 

And joseph did make a announcement for this release but probably went under the radar for most i guess as it mostly refers to the spring release of win10

 

 

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 13:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

Chris

 

Sorry but I have always obtained my updates over the update function and that function still says NVDA 2018.1 is the latest version. I have checked again one minute ago.

I have no firewall or other security system preventing it to download.

Indeed I have checked the website and the version has come out you were right but is not implemented in the nvda update function under the help menu.

Regards

Davy

 

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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Chris
 

Actually there is a post by joseph

 

But unless you are using or planning to update win10 1803 then it wont affect you

 

So it looks like no one takes any notice  😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 March 2018 13:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

And the actual fact is, nobody has posted anything here even about the rc

being around as far as I can tell.

its not really sufficient to post anything to the web site without adding

something to the user list so people are alerted. The old catch 22, if you

are not aware an update is planned, you do not know to go look for it, and

you don't know because most users with the release version are not going to

get any indication that the RC2 is out are they?

Seems sensible to me that an autoposter as we used to see in the old days

of Usenet might be a good thing for nvaccess to invoke any time they want to

alert the users of this list to a new test version that has just the

changes mentioned in the in process article, ie the fix for the sample rate

change in windows 10.

 

is it just me that sees the logic in this?

 

Brian

 

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false

statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens

Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc

either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.

Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it

for others waiting for it.

 

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723

Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...

Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000

Bump version_minor to 1

 

 

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Chris
 

It is a fix for windows 10 1803 users

So if you are planning on updating to this version of windows then you should update nvda 18.1.1

Or forever be silent 😃

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 March 2018 13:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

The fact is that i have 2018.1, and have forced it to look for updates this

morning and its saying no update available, so how do you explain this? Its

no personal slight, its the fact that obviously something is screwy here.

Could it be that its only offering the update to the users running windows

10?

Seems a little odd as windows 7 does not have these voices so it would make

no difference one way or the other!

Maybe some of us are in a parralell universe? :-)

 

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From: "Sam Taylor" <samtaylor9@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

 

Thank you Chris.

 

I mean, honestly, when you write attempting to confirm something in good

faith, you would think that people would check the website, check for

updates, check in-process, before blindly disputing what somebody has

spent time to send. Honestly, people, do have a little common sense.

 

 

On 31/03/2018 21:19, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

> I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false

> statements

> https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

> *From: *Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@...>

> *Sent: *31 March 2018 11:48

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

> No it is not!

> *From:*Sam Taylor <mailto:samtaylor9@...>

> *Sent:*Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

> If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

> On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

>     I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about

>     the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my

>     dropbox link.

>     Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd

>     mention it for others waiting for it.

>     commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723

>     Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...

>     Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000

>     Bump version_minor to 1

>     Email has been weird this last week.

>     Brian

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Hello all,

Actually, NVDA 2018.1.1 final was released a few days ago. But since the bug fixed in it for the Windows 10 OneCore voices affects only Windows 10, NV Access decided to push this update through the automatic update system only for Windows 10 users. So, users of Windows 8.1, 8 and 7 will not get an update notification for NVDA 2018.1.1. That is the whole story (smile). I don't know why there was no message about this in the NVDA mailing lists, but the information mentioned above was posted by NV Access at least on Twitter.

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Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 31.3.2018 г. в 16:31, Chris via Groups.Io написа:

ok I’m not doubting your install of nvda cant find any update

But that doesn’t mean their isn’t one

 

 

I just booted up my other laptop which i haven’t used for some time and the first thing i got was a update to nvda 18.1.1

 

And joseph did make a announcement for this release but probably went under the radar for most i guess as it mostly refers to the spring release of win10

 

 

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 13:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

Chris

 

Sorry but I have always obtained my updates over the update function and that function still says NVDA 2018.1 is the latest version. I have checked again one minute ago.

I have no firewall or other security system preventing it to download.

Indeed I have checked the website and the version has come out you were right but is not implemented in the nvda update function under the help menu.

Regards

Davy

 

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

I wish people would check their facts first before putting out false statements

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/download/

 

 

From: Davy Cuppens
Sent: 31 March 2018 11:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

No it is not!

 

From: Sam Taylor

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2018.1.1 out yet?

 

If you're asking if 2018.1.1 has been released then, yes, it has.

 

On 31/03/2018 20:06, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I gather no, but I still never saw the message in this list about the rc either other than my one earlier in the week with my dropbox link.
Its either gone missing or its not here. so I just thought I'd mention it for others waiting for it.

commit 05234175142167eb5c4682b640f2495154834723
Author: Michael Curran mailto:mick@...
Date: Wed 28 Mar 2018 10:38:27 +1000
Bump version_minor to 1


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