[libreoffice-accessibility] Windows LO with JAWS
Since you all can take code from OO, can't you
take basically, all of their accessibility information and use
it in LO? I mean, I stopped using JAWS years ago, but I heard
from other people that JAWS works with OO? Would that be a lot
of work? Taking all of the accessibility information from OO
because OO is very accessible, just not updated or even nearly
On 5/4/2018 4:18 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
This is distressing. Several years ago, JAWS was working reasonably well with LibreOffice, if my memory is correct, but I have also encountered the same problem with more recent versions. As you say, NVDA offers much better support. While NVDA has been my screen reader of choice for nine years I would encourage users of JAWS to contact VFO at support@... to let them know your feelings regarding the lack of support being offered by JAWS for this excellent suite.
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> Since you all can take code from OO, can't you take basically, all of
> their accessibility information and use it in LO? I mean, I stopped
> using JAWS years ago, but I heard from other people that JAWS works with
> OO? Would that be a lot of work? Taking all of the accessibility
> information from OO because OO is very accessible, just not updated or
> even nearly as stable.
Apache OpenOffice (AOO) uses the same IAccessible2 API, but unlike
LibreOffice they left the MSAA/IAccessible API in place, so there is
marginal Assistive Technology tool support in AOO with JAWS. And, nothing
that LibreOffice would care to implement--thank you.
Before its demise WindowsEyes had support for select IA2 based
applications--but never LibreOffice or AOO.
VFO/Freedom Scientific's refusal to support accessible events instrumented
with IA2 API has never made much sense to me personally, but their
insistence on Windows applications adopting Microsoft UI Automation (UIA)
brands them as a second rate player in the Free and Open Source Software
arena. It is not their business model--too bad if you are dependent on them.
LibreOffice as an OpenSource and cross platform development project is not
obliged to provide proprietary UIA bindings--an extension to "bridge" IA2 to
UIA could be developed--but we'll leave that to Freedom Scientific to
implement if they choose. We'll concentrate on making the native IA2/ATK &
AT-SPI/NSAccessibility bridges function cross platform against LibreOffices
internal accessibility modules.
For any JAWS user on Windows--LibreOffice is accessible at no cost, simply
install NVDA. Alternatively, ORCA on a Linux will do well, but if you need
more hand holding for a small fee the Hypra project's U.A.S. "Universally
Accessible operating System" is a first rate Linux Debian distribution.
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This discussion is way over my head. I think or thought I knew that the accessible modules were also in Libra Office that are in Open Office. i have had more luck in Libras word processor certainly, even though the browse and focus modes of MS Office are not supported. The one big thing it requires is a really good say all that does not stop after each blank line. I could care less about how this is done, but its stopping me adopting it. I'd rather use office 2003 at the moment as like most people I find working with Ribbons in Microsofts more recent editions, a complete nightmare for a non visual person.
as my understanding,
openoffice cant use the code in libreoffice,
but libreoffice can copy openoffice codes and make benefit of some
goodnesses in openoffice.
is it true?
openoffice is more accessible in some ways like reporting descriptions
of menus which unfortunately not available in libreoffice even when
installing offline help file.
On 5/5/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
This discussion is way over my head. I think or thought I knew that the
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.