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Hello list, Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as best as I can. I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows 10. When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA adds the previous information as well. And before reading the next information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going to give an example. Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.” Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich is the information about the capital and largest city. I hear the following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next piece of information, but I hear the previous piece of information again. Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient enough to get some help. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Morné
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It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I
thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out,
I didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be.
No idea what would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der
Merwe wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to explain
my problem as best as I can.
I’m running the latest version of NVDA as
well as Windows 10.
When I’m reading about a country on
Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading the
next part of information, NVDA adds the previous information
as well. And before reading the next information, it repeats
the previous information. I’m going to give an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in
Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany,
Bundesrepublik Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece of
informationwhich is the information about the capital and
largest city. I hear the following information: “Capital and
largest city. Federal Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik
Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next piece of
information, but I hear the previous piece of information
again.
Well, I really hope I explained my problem
sufficient enough to get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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Hi, And is this across all browsers tested? Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 12:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on Wikipedia It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No idea what would caus it though. On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe wrote: Hello list, Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as best as I can. I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows 10. When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA adds the previous information as well. And before reading the next information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going to give an example. Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.” Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich is the information about the capital and largest city. I hear the following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next piece of information, but I hear the previous piece of information again. Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient enough to get some help. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Morné
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I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not.
On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Hi,
And is this across all browsers
tested?
Cheers,
Joseph
It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages
too. I thought it was just an artifact of the way the page
was laid out, I didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it
certainly could be. No idea what would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe
wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to
explain my problem as best as I can.
I’m running the latest version of NVDA
as well as Windows 10.
When I’m reading about a country on
Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading the
next part of information, NVDA adds the previous
information as well. And before reading the next
information, it repeats the previous information. I’m
going to give an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in
Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany,
Bundesrepublik Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece of
informationwhich is the information about the capital and
largest city. I hear the following information: “Capital
and largest city. Federal Republic of Deutschland,
Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next
piece of information, but I hear the previous piece of
information again.
Well, I really hope I explained my
problem sufficient enough to get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Just tried with waterfox and Firefox. No problems to report.
Cheers!
On 5/22/2018 3:41 AM, Travis Siegel
wrote:
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I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not.
On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi,
And is this across all browsers
tested?
Cheers,
Joseph
It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages
too. I thought it was just an artifact of the way the page
was laid out, I didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it
certainly could be. No idea what would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der
Merwe wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to
explain my problem as best as I can.
I’m running the latest version of
NVDA as well as Windows 10.
When I’m reading about a country on
Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading
the next part of information, NVDA adds the previous
information as well. And before reading the next
information, it repeats the previous information. I’m
going to give an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in
Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany,
Bundesrepublik Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece
of informationwhich is the information about the capital
and largest city. I hear the following information:
“Capital and largest city. Federal Republic of
Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I
get to the next piece of information, but I hear the
previous piece of information again.
Well, I really hope I explained my
problem sufficient enough to get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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I think it has to do w/incorrect table layout.
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On 5/21/18, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote: Just tried with waterfox and Firefox. No problems to report. Cheers!
On 5/22/2018 3:41 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not.
On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
And is this across all browsers tested?
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Travis Siegel
*Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 12:28 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on Wikipedia
It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I
thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I
didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No
idea what would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as best as
I can.
I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows 10.
When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read the
information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA
adds the previous information as well. And before reading the
next information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going
to give an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia. NVDA reads
“Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich is the
information about the capital and largest city. I hear the
following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal
Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So,
I get to the next piece of information, but I hear the previous
piece of information again.
Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient enough to
get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
I believe you are right because I too have come across this problem when I am reading tables that aren't well laid out. But usually I don't encounter any awkwardness. Cheers!
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On 5/22/2018 3:53 AM, Jackie wrote: I think it has to do w/incorrect table layout.
On 5/21/18, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Just tried with waterfox and Firefox. No problems to report. Cheers!
On 5/22/2018 3:41 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not.
On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
And is this across all browsers tested?
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Travis Siegel
*Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 12:28 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on Wikipedia
It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I
thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I
didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No
idea what would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as best as
I can.
I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows 10.
When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read the
information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA
adds the previous information as well. And before reading the
next information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going
to give an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia. NVDA reads
“Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich is the
information about the capital and largest city. I hear the
following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal
Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So,
I get to the next piece of information, but I hear the previous
piece of information again.
Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient enough to
get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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Morné I was intrigued by the issue which you raise. However, below, I have pasted the actual code behind the Wikipedia web page. The image has a title and an alt text so both are being read out. As well as the displayed text of the link on screen. Take a look: <tr> <td colspan="2" style="text-align:center"><a href="/wiki/File:Germany_in_the_world_(W3).svg" class="image" title="Location of Germany in the World"><img alt="Location of Germany in the World" src="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Germany_in_the_world_%28W3%29.svg/250px-Germany_in_the_world_%28W3%29.svg.png" width="250" height="153" srcset="//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Germany_in_the_world_%28W3%29.svg/375px-Germany_in_the_world_%28W3%29.svg.png 1.5x, //upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/Germany_in_the_world_%28W3%29.svg/500px-Germany_in_the_world_%28W3%29.svg.png 2x" data-file-width="3188" data-file-height="1948" /></a> <div style="font-size:90%;position:relative;top:0.3em;">Location of Germany in the World</div> </td> </tr> This makes it very verbose. Does that explain what you are describing? All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 8:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on Wikipedia It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No idea what would caus it though. On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe wrote: Hello list, Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as best as I can. I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows 10. When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA adds the previous information as well. And before reading the next information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going to give an example. Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.” Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich is the information about the capital and largest city. I hear the following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next piece of information, but I hear the previous piece of information again. Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient enough to get some help. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Morné
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Could this be another symptom of what I suspect is
UIA improper functioning? I don't have the technical knowledge to know if
there could be a relation between reading the list problem in file explorer and
this one.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on
Wikipedia
I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not.
On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
And is this across all browsers tested?
Cheers,
Joseph
It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I
thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I didn't
think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No idea what
would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as
best as I can.
I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows
10.
When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read
the information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA adds
the previous information as well. And before reading the next information,
it repeats the previous information. I’m going to give an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia.
NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich
is the information about the capital and largest city. I hear the
following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal Republic of
Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next piece
of information, but I hear the previous piece of information again.
Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient
enough to get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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Then it may well be that there is no
relation. I don't know if the list reading problem in file explorer might
be a UIA problem or not but I believe UIA is used when reading lists of files
and folders.
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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on
Wikipedia
Just tried with waterfox and Firefox. No problems to report.
Cheers!
On 5/22/2018 3:41 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not.
On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
And is this across all browsers tested?
Cheers,
Joseph
It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I
thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I didn't
think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No idea what
would caus it though.
On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe
wrote:
Hello list,
Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem
as best as I can.
I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as
Windows 10.
When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA
read the information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA
adds the previous information as well. And before reading the next
information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going to give
an example.
Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia.
NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik
Deutschland.”
Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich
is the information about the capital and largest city. I hear the
following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal Republic
of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next
piece of information, but I hear the previous piece of information
again.
Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient
enough to get some help.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards
Morné
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Well, I will try it with Crome. I get the same behaviour with Internet explorer. Regards Morne
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, 21 May 2018 11:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on Wikipedia Then it may well be that there is no relation. I don't know if the list reading problem in file explorer might be a UIA problem or not but I believe UIA is used when reading lists of files and folders. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behaviour of NVDA on Wikipedia Just tried with waterfox and Firefox. No problems to report. Cheers! On 5/22/2018 3:41 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: I only use chrome, so no idea if it happens on firefox or not. On 5/21/2018 3:31 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi, And is this across all browsers tested? Cheers, Joseph It's not just on wikipedia, it happens on other web pages too. I thought it was just an artifact of the way the page was laid out, I didn't think it was an NVDA problem, but it certainly could be. No idea what would caus it though. On 5/21/2018 2:49 PM, Morne van der Merwe wrote: Hello list, Please bare with me. I am going to explain my problem as best as I can. I’m running the latest version of NVDA as well as Windows 10. When I’m reading about a country on Wikipedia, NVDA read the information and, when reading the next part of information, NVDA adds the previous information as well. And before reading the next information, it repeats the previous information. I’m going to give an example. Currently I have “Germany” open in Wikkippedia. NVDA reads “Federal republic of Germany, Bundesrepublik Deutschland.” Then I arrow down to the next piece of informationwhich is the information about the capital and largest city. I hear the following information: “Capital and largest city. Federal Republic of Deutschland, Bundesrepublik Deutschland Berlin.” So, I get to the next piece of information, but I hear the previous piece of information again. Well, I really hope I explained my problem sufficient enough to get some help. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Morné
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