Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys. Good luck Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys. Good luck Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc. As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc. Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc. As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc. Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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There are many little other annoyances using Win10. I'll be patient till the August upgrade otherwise I will ditch it. Blessings Pascal
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 9:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc. As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc. Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 5:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message There are many little other annoyances using Win10. I'll be patient till the August upgrade otherwise I will ditch it. Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 9:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc. As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc. Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Could be that not all the relevant page suffix names are set up for IE or Firefox, but still point at edge. this is the same issue one gets with audio files sometimes where, even having winamp, it still tries to open with groove music on some file types unless you go in and change them all Another pain with Windows 10. It would be nice if somebody could make a program to configure things sensible. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 3:45 PM Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
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Most of the time I see this is when opening a link, say to a pdf file even though pdf is set to adobe reader it still puts up edge on some links but not all of them. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
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I wonder if there is some way to uninstall it. I doubt it as just a few of the applets in windows seem to use its code to display things very badly in most cases! To be honest I simply do not understand why we needed yet another browser at all. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
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Remember though, that after a month the windows old folder gets completely deleted and the only way back is with a reinstall.
I'd like to see a registry hack tool that can open up all areas read and write to a named admin account, so one does not keep getting dings and little messages about you need to be this or that to do this do you want to be this or that, no thanks I'm me have always been me and let me have access to my bloomin computer!
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message There are many little other annoyances using Win10. I'll be patient till the August upgrade otherwise I will ditch it. Blessings Pascal -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 9:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
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Well ms didn't want internet exploder and I aggree with them. THe problem is the edge system was never finnished and since they keep working with it and the new uia library who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone ditches all that and uses their own drivers again.
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On 2/07/2016 9:26 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote: I wonder if there is some way to uninstall it. I doubt it as just a few of the applets in windows seem to use its code to display things very badly in most cases! To be honest I simply do not understand why we needed yet another browser at all. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I > can
get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
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Oh that's weird. with older versions of windows you were able to pick your browser and it stayed.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: July-02-16 2:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Most of the time I see this is when opening a link, say to a pdf file even though pdf is set to adobe reader it still puts up edge on some links but not all of them. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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I don't either. I guess Edge is like IE
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: July-02-16 2:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message I wonder if there is some way to uninstall it. I doubt it as just a few of the applets in windows seem to use its code to display things very badly in most cases! To be honest I simply do not understand why we needed yet another browser at all. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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There is one particular site I have this problem with so what I do is to forward the e-mail to myself and when I open the forwarded message it works just fine.
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-----Original Message----- From: Arlene Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that's weird. with older versions of windows you were able to pick your browser and it stayed. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: July-02-16 2:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Most of the time I see this is when opening a link, say to a pdf file even though pdf is set to adobe reader it still puts up edge on some links but not all of them. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Well then, I guess it depends on your system! Right?
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley Sent: July-02-16 10:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message There is one particular site I have this problem with so what I do is to forward the e-mail to myself and when I open the forwarded message it works just fine. -----Original Message----- From: Arlene Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that's weird. with older versions of windows you were able to pick your browser and it stayed. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: July-02-16 2:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Most of the time I see this is when opening a link, say to a pdf file even though pdf is set to adobe reader it still puts up edge on some links but not all of them. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Well, if they wanted you in general who has windows ten. Then they should finish it!
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: July-02-16 5:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Well ms didn't want internet exploder and I aggree with them. THe problem is the edge system was never finnished and since they keep working with it and the new uia library who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone ditches all that and uses their own drivers again. On 2/07/2016 9:26 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote: I wonder if there is some way to uninstall it. I doubt it as just a few of the applets in windows seem to use its code to display things very badly in most cases! To be honest I simply do not understand why we needed yet another browser at all. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Oh that edge! I hope one day it will stop taking over! I hope Microsoft will provide a solution to have any browser take over as you choose. Not Edge trying to take over. There has to be a work around to have any browser be default without Edge trying to take over.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 2:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I > can
get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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I've just been playing with this one. it seems when I tried this, that if I changed the default browser to Internet Explorer, then to firefox, some of the defaults to Internet Explorer were still set for some suffixes of web site addresses. I looked them up in the settings. I also found that if I used Windows media player for all video and audio files, then had a look some were still set to Groove music as well, and this remained if I changed them to winamp as well.
Not sure if this is a windows feature or a bug. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian's Mail list account" <bglists@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Could be that not all the relevant page suffix names are set up for IE or Firefox, but still point at edge. this is the same issue one gets with audio files sometimes where, even having winamp, it still tries to open with groove music on some file types unless you go in and change them all Another pain with Windows 10. It would be nice if somebody could make a program to configure things sensible. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 3:45 PM Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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I think its a bug which means that not all the common file suffixes are put to the new default. Why, who knows. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message Oh that's weird. with older versions of windows you were able to pick your browser and it stayed.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: July-02-16 2:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Most of the time I see this is when opening a link, say to a pdf file even though pdf is set to adobe reader it still puts up edge on some links but not all of them. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <casablanca_31@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Strange but it still happens! Edge wants to take over! Blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
Happens to me as well, at times, and seems like edge keeps on trying to take back control of protocol types, etc.
As in, while, maybe an htttp link will still open with either firefox, or chrome, depending on which I have set as default browser, but, then an https link will open in edge, etc. etc.
Haven't found a way to stop this from happening consistently as of yet, but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] opening links within a message
That is strange. If you have firefox set as your browser then it should be it. Not edge.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert Sent: July-01-16 7:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] opening links within a message
Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog
has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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Did you set default programs for windows 10? Windows 10 seems like you have to do this from it's own default program settings. I had to do this with winamp.
Pete
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On 7/1/2016 10:45 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote: Hi, I have the browser set to Firefox. However when I click on a link within an email message, it is opened with MSFT Edge. This does not happen all the time. Any idea? Thanks and blessings Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 10:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
Windows key + Enter should, hopefully, get narrator to start talking, and, it should be able to read some of the logon screen to you, but, only really allows you to navigate using tab, and arrow keys.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
----- Original Message ----- From: "John J. Boyer" <john.boyer@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Windows logon screen: was [nvda] Problem with Secure Desktop
I followed the instructions in the mesage below to copy the current configuration to the Windows logon screen. However, i missed the checkbox to have NVDA work at that screen. Now after making some changes, including setting Windows to never slep, it boots directly into the logon dialogue and says Configuring Windows. That is the NVDA mesage, but it won't do anything more. Is there a way to get past this dialogue and proceed to a normal boot?
Thanks, John
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36:32PM -0700, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Secure desktop is the desktop for things like UAC screens, and the Windows logon screen.
This uses a completely different NVDA profile, with a separate speech/braille config. By default it's set to espeak.
My first guess is your machine is going to sleep, and it's asking for your password when it wakes up. You can turn off sleep in the power options.
If you want to copy the current configuration to the secure desktop, so it uses the same speech/braille settings as the logged in NVDA, you can do that. * Press ctrl+NVDA+G, to open the NVDA General settings. * Press the button that says Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges). * If the secure desktop appears during this process, it's probably an UAC prompt. Press alt y. If you want NVDA to work at the logon screen, the General settings dialog has a checkbox for that as well.
On 6/27/2016 9:54 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
If I don't do anything on my machine for a while it goes to Secure Desktop, whatever that is, and NVDA is not working. The only way I can get out of it is to shut down the machine and turn it back on. Does anyone know what Secure Desktop is and how to get rid of it?
Thanks, John
-- John J. Boyer; President, AbilitiesSoft, Inc. Email: john.boyer@... Website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: 501(C)(3) Nonprofit Location: Madison, Wisconsin USA Mission: To develop softwares and provide STEM services for people with disabilities which are available at no cost.
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