Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money
accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach
the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this
done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
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Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to
all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing
to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no
difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters
are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In
the United States, we like our paper money. There was great
resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters.
However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less
resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via
Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to
our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the
powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having
this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
We have what I think is a really good system here in Canada. Coins for small denominations (up to two dollars), and $5, $10, $20, $50 and $100 bills. The new bills are made of a kind of plasticised paper that can still tear but doesn’t wrinkle easily and is somewhat water-resistant. The bills have tactile markings on them, that resemble full braille cells. You can detect the denomination by counting the number of cells on the bill. This works better, I think, than putting braille numbers on bills, because a single dot could easily be rubbed out, but the impression of a full cell usually remains intact.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: June 8, 2018 9:06 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Hi Kerryn, If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck. On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote: we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins
be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I
don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing
but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to
want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel
back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight
dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin,
three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk around
with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material
in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have
to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten,
twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage
rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind
people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The
pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different
sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money.
There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than
quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less
resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or
visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in
our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of
technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Hi. I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience
both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible. Here in
Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes and made of
different materials. $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and
are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the
biggest size of this sub group. Then there
is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes. These are
made of tough paper, again of different sizes. It is easy to tell
the diference between one denomination from the other once you get
use to it. On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The
Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which
currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the
philippines with wife and family. Cheers!
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On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that
switching to coins be done.
I'll use American denominations
in examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is
going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay for
something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get
four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel
back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm
owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to
receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two
dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy
coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material
in their clothes.
and think of all the different
coins you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime,
quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you
never have a higher denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to
all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal
thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have
no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and
quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and
weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There
was great resistance to any change for large denominations than
quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might
have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness
via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to
our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the
powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in
having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages
etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
|
|
In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S.
Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for
years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't
want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards,
etc.
Andy
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Hi. I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both
sides of money, accessible and inaccessible. Here in Singapore, we have
currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials. $2,
$5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the
smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group. Then there
is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes. These
are made of tough paper, again of different sizes. It is easy to tell
the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to
it. On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines
Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need
guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and
family. Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to
coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples
since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to
carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters,
a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to
receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.
People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in
their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would
have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar,
ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all
coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.
Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with
coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently
rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we
like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for
large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like
Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind
or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that
be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in
terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
Do we need it? Now that we have apps that can tell us what is what?
Just asking.
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From: Andy
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S.
Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for
years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't
want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards,
etc.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jaffar Sidek
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Hi. I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both
sides of money, accessible and inaccessible. Here in Singapore, we have
currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials. $2,
$5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the
smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group. Then there
is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes. These
are made of tough paper, again of different sizes. It is easy to tell
the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to
it. On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines
Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need
guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and
family. Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to
coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples
since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to
carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters,
a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to
receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.
People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in
their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would
have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar,
ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all
coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do.
Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with
coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently
rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we
like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for
large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like
Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind
or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that
be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of
technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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We must remember that not everyone has a smart
phone.
Andy
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Do we need it? Now that we have apps that can tell us what is what?
Just asking.
From: Andy
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S.
Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for
years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't
want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards,
etc.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jaffar Sidek
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible
money
Hi. I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience
both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible. Here in Singapore,
we have currency notes of different sizes and made of different
materials. $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of
plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub
group. Then there
is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000
currency notes. These are made of tough paper, again of different
sizes. It is easy to tell the diference between one denomination from
the other once you get use to it. On the other hand, I am married to a
Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter
which currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the
philippines with wife and family. Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to
coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples
since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to
carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two
quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a
ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not
going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and
two dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy
coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their
clothes.
and think of all the different coins you
would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five
dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher
denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all
coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to
do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty
with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all
differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United
States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any
change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller
country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good
luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via
Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind
or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that
be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms
of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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|
Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They
could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as
the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money
any more. So this may become a moot point anyway. For example,
we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the
Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing but credit or
debit cards. So I wonder how long there will actually be any so
called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't
know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry
nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and
two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something
with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty
cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin,
three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to
walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets
and wearing out the material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have to
learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar,
ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher
denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to
all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal
thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have
no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and
quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and
weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There
was great resistance to any change for large denominations than
quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might
have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness
via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to
our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the
powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in
having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages
etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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|
Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Which just goes to show that money is legal tender. If you don't
have it, it's tough! Cheers!
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On 6/9/2018 8:02 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins.
They could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As
far as the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real
money any more. So this may become a moot point anyway. For
example, we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants
locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing
but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will
actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be
done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't
know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry
nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar
coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and
two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for
something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars
and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five
dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People
aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling
in their pockets and wearing out the material in their
clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have to
learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar,
ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher
denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch
to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the
ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United
States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels,
dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different
sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper
money. There was great resistance to any change for large
denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country
like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness
via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible
to our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the
powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in
having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile
immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
|
|
Well at least we got the money identifiers a few years ago.
That's probably about the best we in the US can expect.
On 6/8/2018 11:27 PM, Andy wrote:
In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S. Treasury
Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around
for years, with study after study, and still no accessible
money. They just don't want to do it, and are hoping that people
will use credit and devit cards, etc.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi. I am in a rather unique position because i get to
experience both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible.
Here in Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes
and made of different materials. $2, $5 and $10 are of
different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest
and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group. Then there
is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes. These
are made of tough paper, again of different sizes. It is easy
to tell the diference between one denomination from the other
once you get use to it. On the other hand, I am married to a
Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same
size, no matter which currency, so i need guidance on that score
when I am back in the philippines with wife and family. Cheers!
On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be
done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't
know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to
carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten
dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for
dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I
pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight
dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive
a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes.
People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins
jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in
their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have to
learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five
dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher
denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to
switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be
the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United
States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies,
nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and
of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we
like our paper money. There was great resistance to any
change for large denominations than quarters. However in a
smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less
resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn
Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money
accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach
the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th
june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack
tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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|
Sweden has become largely cash-free during the past few years (ironically enough, partly encouraged by a redesign of the banknotes, which instead of accepting the change, people to a large extent simply stopped using them completely).
There are many shops, restaurants and bars with signs saying "no cash" or "we do not take cash" - they only take payment by card.
Antony.
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On Saturday 09 June 2018 at 14:02:37, Ron Canazzi wrote: Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money any more. So this may become a moot point anyway. For example, we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...> *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc thanks
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Seems like a keen idea! E-mail is golden!!! Kevin Lee
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From: Antony StoneSent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 6:50 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Sweden has become largely cash-free during the past few years (ironically enough, partly encouraged by a redesign of the banknotes, which instead of accepting the change, people to a large extent simply stopped using them completely). There are many shops, restaurants and bars with signs saying "no cash" or "we do not take cash" - they only take payment by card. Antony. On Saturday 09 June 2018 at 14:02:37, Ron Canazzi wrote: > Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They could > be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as the > jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money any more. > So this may become a moot point anyway. For example, we are getting a > group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area > that will accept nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long > there will actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway. > > On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote: > > It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. > > I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your > > denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but > > coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going > > to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a > > nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm > > owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive > > a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People > > aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their > > pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. > > and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The > > penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, > > assuming you never have a higher denomination. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...> > > *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible money > > > > Hi Kerryn, > > > > > > If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all > > coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. > > Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with > > coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently > > rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we > > like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for > > large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like > > Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck. > > > > On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote: > >> hi > >> we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind > >> or visually impaired persons > >> what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that > >> be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in > >> terms of technology, tack tile immages etc > >> thanks -- "Black holes are where God divided by zero." - Steven Wright Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
I think physical cash money will be around for a very long time yet. Even though it’s true some places are trying to go cash-free, I still see places both here in Canada and in the uS that are cash only. They just prefer it that way, and they have their reasons. I’m mostly for the progress of technology and convenience but I, too, prefer cash for a lot of things. But, I guess we will see how things go. I understand that some countries have already mostly made a transition to being cash-free, so maybe, indeed, it is only a matter of time.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: June 9, 2018 8:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money any more. So this may become a moot point anyway. For example, we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway. On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote: It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Hi Kerryn, If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck. On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote: we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
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JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Plus, you can’t always rely on having the apps or devices handy, or being able to use them. I travel to the uS fairly regularly to play or attend music gigs. The atmosphere is often rather busy and loud and using a phone becomes highly impractical. I’d say accessible money is something the uS really needs, and I am surprised that, with the ADA in full effect nowadays and being used for leverage in many cases, this hasn’t happened yet. From my own personal Canadian perspective, the $1 bills especially are a huge problem.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: June 9, 2018 12:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money We must remember that not everyone has a smart phone. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Do we need it? Now that we have apps that can tell us what is what? Just asking. Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money In 2008 the Federal courts ruled that the U. S. Treasury Dept. had to make currency accessible. They have diddled around for years, with study after study, and still no accessible money. They just don't want to do it, and are hoping that people will use credit and devit cards, etc. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Hi. I am in a rather unique position because i get to experience both sides of money, accessible and inaccessible. Here in Singapore, we have currency notes of different sizes and made of different materials. $2, $5 and $10 are of different sizes and are made of plastic, $2 being the smallest and $10 being the biggest size of this sub group. Then there is the group of $50, $100, $500 and $1000 currency notes. These are made of tough paper, again of different sizes. It is easy to tell the diference between one denomination from the other once you get use to it. On the other hand, I am married to a Filipina, and The Philippines Peso notes are all of the same size, no matter which currency, so i need guidance on that score when I am back in the philippines with wife and family. Cheers! On 6/9/2018 11:03 AM, Gene wrote: It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done. I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money Hi Kerryn, If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck. On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote: we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
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When I order things like pizza or a sandwich from places like
Dominos, I use cash. I don't think too many people are writing
checks anymore because now they can pay bills online. I still pay
my rent by check but we do have the option to pay it online here
if we choose to.
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On 6/9/2018 11:19 AM, JM Casey wrote:
I think physical cash money will be
around for a very long time yet. Even though it’s true some
places are trying to go cash-free, I still see places both
here in Canada and in the uS that are cash only. They just
prefer it that way, and they have their reasons. I’m mostly
for the progress of technology and convenience but I, too,
prefer cash for a lot of things. But, I guess we will see
how things go. I understand that some countries have already
mostly made a transition to being cash-free, so maybe,
indeed, it is only a matter of time.
Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins.
They could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility.
As far as the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use
real money any more. So this may become a moot point anyway.
For example, we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants
locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing
but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will
actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that
switching to coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in
examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is
going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay
for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to
want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a
dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten
dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I
am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three
one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to
walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their
pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins
you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime,
quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming
you never have a higher denomination.
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018
8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda]
accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to
switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be
the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United
States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies,
nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and
of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we
like our paper money. There was great resistance to any
change for large denominations than quarters. However in a
smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less
resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via
Groups.Io wrote:
we in trinidad would like to make
our money accessible to our blind or visually
impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with
as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on
tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of
technology, tack tile immages etc
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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But using that argument, making money accessible
when it may not be around much longer can be argued to be spending a good deal
of money to correct a problem that may not exist so it shouldn't be done.
After all, it would be hard to justify making a building wheelchair accessible
if that building were likely to be torn down in two years and it wasn't
providing an essential service.
Paper money is so much more convenient than coins,
that that is why it was adopted in the first place. Accessibility is a
worthy goal, but if accessibility is done at the expense of what is generally a
much better system of doing something for people in general, it's a pyric
victory. Even if you win, the public resentment and ridicule will create
enormous ill will toward the recipients and set the whole cause of acceptance
and integration back significantly.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 7:02 AM
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Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They could
be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as the jingling,
to be honest, less and less people use real money any more. So this may
become a moot point anyway. For example, we are getting a group of
Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept
nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will actually be
any so called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your
denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but
coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to
want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel
back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight
dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar
coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk
around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the
material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The
penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty,
assuming you never have a higher denomination.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage
rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind
people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The
pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of
different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper
money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations
than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might
have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or
visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be,
in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of
technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!" --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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And what if the banks go down.
Actually I can think of another reason, I was traveling with my dad on a holiday to australia, its not far from here its not third world its not to bad its a western country.
We had enough cash between us but my dad had some issues with one of his credit cards, he had told the local bank I think it was westpack he was going to australia and was assured it would be fine, westpack being an australian bank so didn't need to take precautions you take in other parts of the world.
He got to the machines, and tried to pay, and then tried again, nothing.
He got to the banked and they said his account was compromised.
It took us a huge toll call to ring up the local branch in nz to talk to their managers over there to transfer rights over.
So electronic cash isn't really an option when traveling and in markets and with street people you need cash.
Now with your mobile phone previded you don't drop it, get it locked in a shop by mistake, stolen, or anything else that would have all your data stolen your bank direct app of choice may be able to scale global for you with nfc.
But as for cash, I do have a identifier however I usually keep 20 dollar notes, they are easier to handle than moving 50 dollars out, there are ways to identify them but usually I get a trusted friend to handle my cash or just run 20 and 10 dollar notes.
20 50 10 1 and 2 dollar coins are marked for access.
Having extra coins would be a weight to be honest.
I had a wallet split for having to many coins.
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On 6/10/2018 6:19 AM, JM Casey wrote: I think physical cash money will be around for a very long time yet. Even though it’s true some places are trying to go cash-free, I still see places both here in Canada and in the uS that are cash only. They just prefer it that way, and they have their reasons. I’m mostly for the progress of technology and convenience but I, too, prefer cash for a lot of things. But, I guess we will see how things go. I understand that some countries have already mostly made a transition to being cash-free, so maybe, indeed, it is only a matter of time.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: June 9, 2018 8:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money any more. So this may become a moot point anyway. For example, we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination.
Gene
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From: Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
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With the continued and increasing vulnerability of
essential services in societies to disruption by hackers, private or national,
it is the height of foolhardiness to rush headlong into more reliance on
computerizing things to the extent you are describing. If I had my way, I
would not allow any more computerization of essential services until effective
and credible protections are known to be in place.
Mostly eliminating actual money in this environment
is dangerous and foolish and so typical of our suicidal societies.
Gene
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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Sweden has become largely cash-free during the past few years
(ironically enough, partly encouraged by a redesign of the banknotes, which
instead of accepting the change, people to a large extent simply stopped
using them completely). There are many shops, restaurants and bars
with signs saying "no cash" or "we do not take cash" - they only take
payment by card. Antony. On Saturday 09 June 2018 at 14:02:37,
Ron Canazzi wrote: > Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5
more coins. They could > be differently shaped for ease of
accessibility. As far as the > jingling, to be honest, less and less
people use real money any more. > So this may become a moot point
anyway. For example, we are getting a > group of Starbucks's
restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area > that will accept
nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long > there will
actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway. > > On
6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote: > > It isn't reasonable to ask that
switching to coins be done. > > I'll use American denominations in
examples since I don't know your > > denominations. Who is going
to be willing to carry nothing but > > coins? If I pay for
something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going > > to want to get four
coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a > > nickel back.
If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm > > owed eight
dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive > > a five
dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People > >
aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their >
> pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes. > > and
think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The > >
penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, >
> assuming you never have a higher denomination. > > Gene >
> ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Ron Canazzi < mailto:aa2vm@...> >
> *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io < mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible money > > > > Hi
Kerryn, > > > > > > If you can convince the powers
that be in Trinidad to switch to all > > coinage rather than paper
money, that would be the ideal thing to do. > > Most blind people here
in the United States have no difficulty with > > coinage. The
pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently > > rimmed and
of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we > > like
our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for > >
large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country
like > > Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good
luck. > > > > On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via
Groups.Io wrote: > >> hi > >> we in trinidad would like
to make our money accessible to our blind > >> or visually
impaired persons > >> what guidelines we should work with as to
approach the powers that > >> be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th
june, in having this done, in > >> terms of technology, tack tile
immages etc > >> thanks -- "Black holes are where God
divided by zero." - Steven
Wright
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Hi, Sean,
In 2013 Mom went to Target to do some Christmas shopping. When she went to pay for the things, she found out that her information had been stolen. She had to end up getting a new card. I was fortunate not to have that happen to me because I did my shopping at Best Buy. That was when I got a boom box.
Rosemarie
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On 6/9/2018 1:50 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote: And what if the banks go down.
Actually I can think of another reason, I was traveling with my dad on a holiday to australia, its not far from here its not third world its not to bad its a western country.
We had enough cash between us but my dad had some issues with one of his credit cards, he had told the local bank I think it was westpack he was going to australia and was assured it would be fine, westpack being an australian bank so didn't need to take precautions you take in other parts of the world.
He got to the machines, and tried to pay, and then tried again, nothing.
He got to the banked and they said his account was compromised.
It took us a huge toll call to ring up the local branch in nz to talk to their managers over there to transfer rights over.
So electronic cash isn't really an option when traveling and in markets and with street people you need cash.
Now with your mobile phone previded you don't drop it, get it locked in a shop by mistake, stolen, or anything else that would have all your data stolen your bank direct app of choice may be able to scale global for you with nfc.
But as for cash, I do have a identifier however I usually keep 20 dollar notes, they are easier to handle than moving 50 dollars out, there are ways to identify them but usually I get a trusted friend to handle my cash or just run 20 and 10 dollar notes.
20 50 10 1 and 2 dollar coins are marked for access.
Having extra coins would be a weight to be honest.
I had a wallet split for having to many coins.
On 6/10/2018 6:19 AM, JM Casey wrote:
I think physical cash money will be around for a very long time yet. Even though it’s true some places are trying to go cash-free, I still see places both here in Canada and in the uS that are cash only. They just prefer it that way, and they have their reasons. I’m mostly for the progress of technology and convenience but I, too, prefer cash for a lot of things. But, I guess we will see how things go. I understand that some countries have already mostly made a transition to being cash-free, so maybe, indeed, it is only a matter of time.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: June 9, 2018 8:03 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Well, we wouldn't have to learn any more than 5 more coins. They could be differently shaped for ease of accessibility. As far as the jingling, to be honest, less and less people use real money any more. So this may become a moot point anyway. For example, we are getting a group of Starbucks's restaurants locally in the Buffalo, New York area that will accept nothing but credit or debit cards. So I wonder how long there will actually be any so called legal tender any more anyway.
On 6/8/2018 11:03 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't reasonable to ask that switching to coins be done.
I'll use American denominations in examples since I don't know your denominations. Who is going to be willing to carry nothing but coins? If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin, I'm not going to want to get four coins for dollars and two quarters, a dime and a nickel back. If I pay for something with a ten dollar coin and I'm owed eight dollars and twenty cents, I am not going to want to receive a five dollar coin, three one dollar coins and two dimes. People aren't going to walk around with lots of heavy coins jingling in their pockets and wearing out the material in their clothes.
and think of all the different coins you would have to learn. The penny, nickel, dime, quarter, dollar, five dollar, ten, twenty, fifty, assuming you never have a higher denomination.
Gene
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From: Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible money
Hi Kerryn,
If you can convince the powers that be in Trinidad to switch to all coinage rather than paper money, that would be the ideal thing to do. Most blind people here in the United States have no difficulty with coinage. The pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters are all differently rimmed and of different sizes and weights. In the United States, we like our paper money. There was great resistance to any change for large denominations than quarters. However in a smaller country like Trinidad, you might have less resistance. Good luck.
On 6/8/2018 8:29 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi
we in trinidad would like to make our money accessible to our blind or visually impaired persons
what guidelines we should work with as to approach the powers that be, in our meeting on tuesday 12th june, in having this done, in terms of technology, tack tile immages etc
thanks
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