FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint


Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Christo,

 

Thanks for the feedback! It really is good to know that our idea is useful.

 

 

All the best,

 

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hi
i visited your website geen
its very informative and useful.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 7/19/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello guys

I want to say that I already find the notes extremely helpful. I think
it would be excellent if both the creation and the use were together in
the same document so that one has everything together for easy reference.

Thank you for giving so much of your time and skills to help others. I
for one really appreciate it. Through the notes you have provided so
far, I have already learnt so much about PowerPoint.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/07/18 9:42 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Gene,



I think this is excellent. We could use this to instruct those who wish
to
develop a slide show. My own approach was for a receiver or student who
is
presented with a slide show and need to read it completely with
confidence
that they are missing nothing. Thus these two should fit comfortably
beside
each other. Would you agree?



If we can agree the overall approach, we can work together to refine the
instructions for each concept.



The third module needed is that of configuring PowerPoint to run the
slide
show on an external monitor while showing the presenter the notes on a
laptop or desktop privately.



I have just changed over to Office 2016 today so I will be able to check
whether our recommended keystrokes will work with PowerPoint 2016.



iAll the best,



Cearbhall



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall

Here is what I have typed up so far below... It might take you a little
while to navigate your way through it all. I also have a list of
shortcuts
for PowerPoint 2010 and 2013 which just need to be zipped and linked to
my
dropbox account and inserted into the webpage when it is posted to the
website.

Regards,

Gene NZ

How to create a PowerPoint presentation with NVDA

When you open up PowerPoint it will automatically go to the first slide.
This will open in slide view and this will be spoken out by NVDA. In the
first slide, if you tab, you will hear the following: Subtitle
placeholder
and Centre Title placeholder.

If you press the Enter key on either of these options, an editable box
will
come up. Here, type in your text. When finished, press the Escape key,
then
tab to the next item and repeat the process (as in the first option
given).
Make sure after you have typed in your text to press the Escape key.
Next,
if you use the Tab key you will hear what is written in each section. You
may also wish to add other items such as links, pictures or sounds
etcetera
to your presentation.



Adding extra slides

When you have finished creating your first slide, in most cases you will
want to add extra slides to the presentation. To add another slide as you
go
use the New Slide (Ctrl + M) shortcut. When a new slide is added you will
hear NVDA say slide 2 slide view.

This time when you use the Tab key you will hear NVDA say Title
placeholder
and Object placeholder. Repeat the steps as were done in slide one.

You will notice as you add extra slides NVDA will say the number of the
slide.

To go between slides you have created

As you create your presentation the more slides you add you will hear the
number of the slides go from number one to the number where you have
finished your last slide (for example slide 20).

You can use the page up key to take you back through your presentation
until
you arrive back at slide one. If you use the page down key, you can go
forwards through the presentation back to your last slide (for example
slide
20). You might hear NVDA also say slide show complete.

To get quickly to the start of your PowerPoint presentation or to the end
of
it

To quickly get back to your first slide you can use the Home key. This
will
take you to the very first slide you created and you should hear the
contents of the slide read out.

To quickly get to the very last slide of your presentation you can use
the
End key. You should hear the name of the very last slide read out and its
contents.



Using the F6 key to go between Windows

If you go back to your very first slide, then start pushing the F6 key,
you
will hear NVDA say the following: slide one slide view. Press the F6 key
again and you will hear NVDA say status bar, ribbon tab home. Press the
F6
key again and you will hear NVDA say slide one notes page multiline.
Press
the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say thumbnail one of however many
slides you have created. Press the F6 key again and you will be back to
where you started.

Adding notes to your slides

If you would like to add a note to your presentation (on the slide that
you
are on), when you hear NVDA say slide notes page - type your note in
here.

When you hear NVDA say thumb nails number one of whatever is your last
slide, you can use your down and up arrow keys to go between each slide.

Watching the PowerPoint presentation you have created

To start your slide show, press the F5 key. This will start your
PowerPoint
presentation at the beginning of the PowerPoint you have created.

You can then either use the Enter key or the Spacebar to go to the next
slide (from start to finish) of your PowerPoint. NVDA will read the
slides
from top to bottom. You will hear when your slide show is finished with
NVDA
saying PowerPoint complete at the end of the slide show.

The PowerPoint presentation can also be automated, so it changes slides
at
set intervals between slides. You may have to play around with the timing
so
the slide is not quicker than NVDA reading out the slide. To have a set
interval between each slide that is the same use Alt + the letter K, then
the letter I. When you hear the following read out this is the time
between
each slide 00:00.00. You can use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the
time between each slide. These will all be set to the same length of
time
you specified (for example 10 seconds) before it goes to the next slide.

Inserting a picture into your PowerPoint presentation

Whenever you insert pictures, graphs, etcetera into your PowerPoint
presentation, please also add Alt text to the graphics in the slide at
the
same time. This way, when the screen reader comes to the picture, it will
read out the Alt text in the graphic. This helps a blind or visually
impaired student know what that picture/graphic is about. Alt text refers
to
alternate text.



To insert a picture into your slide show (on the current slide), press
the
Alt key + the letter N. Next, press the letter P, then the Enter key. A
dialogue box will come up. You can tab and shift tab around it to locate
your photo. In this area it will ask you what type of photo you want to
insert (as in the format of the photo) and give you the option to find it
on
your computer or portable media. When you have located your picture,
press
the Enter key on it and that picture will be inserted into the slide
show.

Next, use the application key and you will be given a selection of menus
to
arrow through. Arrow to the format picture menu, then press the Enter
key.
When the next screen comes up, you will be given quite a few options and
might hear NVDA say Picture Corrections List. You will need to locate the
Alt text menu. This might be a matter of arrowing right or left to get to
the tab. You can also tab through the different sections there under the
different menus.

Under the Alt text section, when you first tab, it will give you the
option
to give the picture a title. Enter in whatever you want to in this
section
(for example Dog playing in the snow). The next time you tab, it will
let
you put in a description about the photo (for example our house all
covered
in snow with the dog playing in the snow and children chucking snow balls
at
each other). Next, tab down to the close button then press the Enter key.
Now, the Alt text is inserted into the photo you put into the PowerPoint
presentation.

You will hear content placeholder when the alternative text in the
picture
is read out.

Switching between the slide and its accompanying notes

If you would like to switch between the slide and any accompanying notes
(if
any) you can use the following shortcut. Press Control + Shift + S to
switch
back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

You must be watching your slide show to do this on each slide.



Adding notes to your presentation

When you are putting together your slide show presentation, there are a
couple of ways you can get to the notes section. One is to use the F6 key
until you hear NVDA say notes page. Here, enter in your notes, then use
the
F6 key to cycle you back to slide view.

The second way is to use a shortcut. The shortcut key to get to this
section
quickly is Alt + R, then C. Now, type in your comment, and make sure the
comment lines up with the slide.

Editing or reviewing each slide

When you are in slide view you can arrow down and up this section to each
slide you have created. Locate the slide you want to edit then tab once
until you hear NVDA say Centre Title placeholder. Next press the Enter
key
then an editable dialogue box will come up with whatever you had written
in
this section before. Make your changes, and press the Escape key. Now it
will be updated with the new information you have edited or replaced.

Tab once more until you hear NVDA say Subtitle placeholder, then press
the
Enter key. Make your changes then press the Escape key and the new
information will be updated.



Inserting a hyperlink into your Power Point presentation

From time to time you might want to put a hyperlink into your PowerPoint
presentation (that might point to a resource on the internet).

To add a hyperlink into your presentation, work out where in the text you
would like the hyperlink to be. For example, to visit the NVAccess
website
please go to and put your hyper link in here.

When you have found the right spot for the hyperlink to go on your slide,
press the application key on your keyboard. When a context menu comes up,
arrow until you hear NVDA say the menu that says hyperlink, then press
the
Enter key. It will ask you to put in the hyperlink address for example
<http://www.nvaccess.org> http://www.nvaccess.org Once done, tab to the
ok
button. Then press the Enter key. Now, your hyperlink will be in the
slide
where you put it.

The shortcut key to insert a hyperlink is Alt + N, then I. This will give
you a whole heap of extra options such as (under the Hyperlink
section)...
Create a link to a Web page, a picture, an e-mail address, or a program.

It is a matter of tabbing through the sections given and adding the parts
that you would like to put into your Power Point presentation.



Inserting a table into your slide

To insert a table into your slide, locate where you want it in your slide
to
be shown.

Next, press the Alt key + the letter N, then the letter T for table and
press the Enter key. This is the shortcut key to insert a table into your
slide.

You will now be given some options which you can tab through. There are
plenty of options to choose from (going from 1x1 Table onwards). You can
also use the Shift/Tab key to go back through the options given. If any
of
the other options suit you, press the Enter key on it.

Find the size of the table you want to put into the slide show then press
the Enter key. Your table will now be inserted into your slide.

Turning on the reporting of tables when editing a table

Make sure you have the report tables check box checked under the document
formatting section in NVDA; otherwise, you will have no idea of where you
are in the table. To do this, use the NVDA key + the Ctrl key + the letter
D
to quickly get to the document formatting dialogue section within NVDA.

Putting in a customized sized table

There may be times when you want to put in a certain sized table (for
example a 3 column by 2 row table).

To do a customized sized table (when you first go into the screen where
it
gives you a whole lot of options), you will hear NVDA say 1 times 1
table.
Shift/tab a couple of times until you hear NVDA say insert table, then
press
the Enter key. Here you will be able to enter a custom number for your
column and a custom number for your rows. Next, tab down to the ok button
then press the Enter key, and your new table will be inserted into the
PowerPoint slide.

If for any reason you are unsure where NVDA is focused, you can use the
NVDA
key + the Tab key so NVDA speaks the focused position.

Entering information into your table

You can now tab through the table you have inserted and enter your
information into it.

The applications key can be used while in the table to give you other
options. These include options such as: insert rows both above and below
or
insert columns both to the left or right; delete rows and delete columns;
merge cells; split cells and select table.

After you have finished inserting information into your table, press the
Escape key. You will need to go back to slide view and then play your
PowerPoint presentation. You will now hear stuff read out to you from
your
table. Make sure you note (when entering information into your table)
where
each tab will take you.



Creating accessible PowerPoint presentations - Office Support

If you would like to know more about how to create an accessible
PowerPoint
presentation, you may find the following link from Microsoft useful
<https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Creating-accessible-PowerPoint-pre
sentations-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25>
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Creating-accessible-PowerPoint-pres
entations-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25





On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,



I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!



Can I see the notes you have put together so far?

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the
contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am
reading
everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint
that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask
how
to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of
running the slide show so that only the presenter sees the notes and not
the audience.



I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we
can
complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or
what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their
own skills.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
New Zealand
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:04 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall



If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint
2010
it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for
it
as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it
etc.
it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.



I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in
the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your
power point tutorial is done.



I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along
with
a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.



I think with some people they really need to get there head around
ribbons
first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.





Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,



I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That's a good point about the
laptop. I'll get that under way as well.



PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem
to
differ for older versions than those which I am using now.



I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the
web but let's prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work
because
I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and
misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.



The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for
office
2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them
correct
or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Gene
New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall



The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be
used.
I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.



The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well
or
are these laptop ones.



I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported
but
that is as far as i went.



Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to
use powerpoint?



Gene nz





On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,



I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?



I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.



Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA



1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane



For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of
the
slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic"
if
no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide



Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in
the
placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.



Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in
the
text placeholder at 9 above





Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.



Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.



control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.



The Slide Show



Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and
its
accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane,
thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to
see
the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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To: ' <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi again,



I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop
PC.



All advice welcome, thanks!



All the best,



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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,



I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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Hello guys

I want to say that I already find the notes extremely helpful. I think it would be excellent if both the creation and the use were together in the same document so that one has everything together for easy reference.

Thank you for giving so much of your time and skills to help others. I for one really appreciate it. Through the notes you have provided so far, I have already learnt so much about PowerPoint.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/07/18 9:42 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Gene,


I think this is excellent. We could use this to instruct those who wish to
develop a slide show. My own approach was for a receiver or student who is
presented with a slide show and need to read it completely with confidence
that they are missing nothing. Thus these two should fit comfortably beside
each other. Would you agree?


If we can agree the overall approach, we can work together to refine the
instructions for each concept.


The third module needed is that of configuring PowerPoint to run the slide
show on an external monitor while showing the presenter the notes on a
laptop or desktop privately.


I have just changed over to Office 2016 today so I will be able to check
whether our recommended keystrokes will work with PowerPoint 2016.


iAll the best,


Cearbhall


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint


Hi Cearbhall

Here is what I have typed up so far below... It might take you a little
while to navigate your way through it all. I also have a list of shortcuts
for PowerPoint 2010 and 2013 which just need to be zipped and linked to my
dropbox account and inserted into the webpage when it is posted to the
website.

Regards,

Gene NZ

How to create a PowerPoint presentation with NVDA

When you open up PowerPoint it will automatically go to the first slide.
This will open in slide view and this will be spoken out by NVDA. In the
first slide, if you tab, you will hear the following: Subtitle placeholder
and Centre Title placeholder.

If you press the Enter key on either of these options, an editable box will
come up. Here, type in your text. When finished, press the Escape key, then
tab to the next item and repeat the process (as in the first option given).
Make sure after you have typed in your text to press the Escape key. Next,
if you use the Tab key you will hear what is written in each section. You
may also wish to add other items such as links, pictures or sounds etcetera
to your presentation.


Adding extra slides

When you have finished creating your first slide, in most cases you will
want to add extra slides to the presentation. To add another slide as you go
use the New Slide (Ctrl + M) shortcut. When a new slide is added you will
hear NVDA say slide 2 slide view.

This time when you use the Tab key you will hear NVDA say Title placeholder
and Object placeholder. Repeat the steps as were done in slide one.

You will notice as you add extra slides NVDA will say the number of the
slide.

To go between slides you have created

As you create your presentation the more slides you add you will hear the
number of the slides go from number one to the number where you have
finished your last slide (for example slide 20).

You can use the page up key to take you back through your presentation until
you arrive back at slide one. If you use the page down key, you can go
forwards through the presentation back to your last slide (for example slide
20). You might hear NVDA also say slide show complete.

To get quickly to the start of your PowerPoint presentation or to the end of
it

To quickly get back to your first slide you can use the Home key. This will
take you to the very first slide you created and you should hear the
contents of the slide read out.

To quickly get to the very last slide of your presentation you can use the
End key. You should hear the name of the very last slide read out and its
contents.


Using the F6 key to go between Windows

If you go back to your very first slide, then start pushing the F6 key, you
will hear NVDA say the following: slide one slide view. Press the F6 key
again and you will hear NVDA say status bar, ribbon tab home. Press the F6
key again and you will hear NVDA say slide one notes page multiline. Press
the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say thumbnail one of however many
slides you have created. Press the F6 key again and you will be back to
where you started.

Adding notes to your slides

If you would like to add a note to your presentation (on the slide that you
are on), when you hear NVDA say slide notes page - type your note in here.

When you hear NVDA say thumb nails number one of whatever is your last
slide, you can use your down and up arrow keys to go between each slide.

Watching the PowerPoint presentation you have created

To start your slide show, press the F5 key. This will start your PowerPoint
presentation at the beginning of the PowerPoint you have created.

You can then either use the Enter key or the Spacebar to go to the next
slide (from start to finish) of your PowerPoint. NVDA will read the slides
from top to bottom. You will hear when your slide show is finished with NVDA
saying PowerPoint complete at the end of the slide show.

The PowerPoint presentation can also be automated, so it changes slides at
set intervals between slides. You may have to play around with the timing so
the slide is not quicker than NVDA reading out the slide. To have a set
interval between each slide that is the same use Alt + the letter K, then
the letter I. When you hear the following read out this is the time between
each slide 00:00.00. You can use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the
time between each slide. These will all be set to the same length of time
you specified (for example 10 seconds) before it goes to the next slide.

Inserting a picture into your PowerPoint presentation

Whenever you insert pictures, graphs, etcetera into your PowerPoint
presentation, please also add Alt text to the graphics in the slide at the
same time. This way, when the screen reader comes to the picture, it will
read out the Alt text in the graphic. This helps a blind or visually
impaired student know what that picture/graphic is about. Alt text refers to
alternate text.


To insert a picture into your slide show (on the current slide), press the
Alt key + the letter N. Next, press the letter P, then the Enter key. A
dialogue box will come up. You can tab and shift tab around it to locate
your photo. In this area it will ask you what type of photo you want to
insert (as in the format of the photo) and give you the option to find it on
your computer or portable media. When you have located your picture, press
the Enter key on it and that picture will be inserted into the slide show.

Next, use the application key and you will be given a selection of menus to
arrow through. Arrow to the format picture menu, then press the Enter key.
When the next screen comes up, you will be given quite a few options and
might hear NVDA say Picture Corrections List. You will need to locate the
Alt text menu. This might be a matter of arrowing right or left to get to
the tab. You can also tab through the different sections there under the
different menus.

Under the Alt text section, when you first tab, it will give you the option
to give the picture a title. Enter in whatever you want to in this section
(for example Dog playing in the snow). The next time you tab, it will let
you put in a description about the photo (for example our house all covered
in snow with the dog playing in the snow and children chucking snow balls at
each other). Next, tab down to the close button then press the Enter key.
Now, the Alt text is inserted into the photo you put into the PowerPoint
presentation.

You will hear content placeholder when the alternative text in the picture
is read out.

Switching between the slide and its accompanying notes

If you would like to switch between the slide and any accompanying notes (if
any) you can use the following shortcut. Press Control + Shift + S to switch
back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

You must be watching your slide show to do this on each slide.


Adding notes to your presentation

When you are putting together your slide show presentation, there are a
couple of ways you can get to the notes section. One is to use the F6 key
until you hear NVDA say notes page. Here, enter in your notes, then use the
F6 key to cycle you back to slide view.

The second way is to use a shortcut. The shortcut key to get to this section
quickly is Alt + R, then C. Now, type in your comment, and make sure the
comment lines up with the slide.

Editing or reviewing each slide

When you are in slide view you can arrow down and up this section to each
slide you have created. Locate the slide you want to edit then tab once
until you hear NVDA say Centre Title placeholder. Next press the Enter key
then an editable dialogue box will come up with whatever you had written in
this section before. Make your changes, and press the Escape key. Now it
will be updated with the new information you have edited or replaced.

Tab once more until you hear NVDA say Subtitle placeholder, then press the
Enter key. Make your changes then press the Escape key and the new
information will be updated.


Inserting a hyperlink into your Power Point presentation

From time to time you might want to put a hyperlink into your PowerPoint
presentation (that might point to a resource on the internet).

To add a hyperlink into your presentation, work out where in the text you
would like the hyperlink to be. For example, to visit the NVAccess website
please go to and put your hyper link in here.

When you have found the right spot for the hyperlink to go on your slide,
press the application key on your keyboard. When a context menu comes up,
arrow until you hear NVDA say the menu that says hyperlink, then press the
Enter key. It will ask you to put in the hyperlink address for example
<http://www.nvaccess.org> http://www.nvaccess.org Once done, tab to the ok
button. Then press the Enter key. Now, your hyperlink will be in the slide
where you put it.

The shortcut key to insert a hyperlink is Alt + N, then I. This will give
you a whole heap of extra options such as (under the Hyperlink section)...
Create a link to a Web page, a picture, an e-mail address, or a program.

It is a matter of tabbing through the sections given and adding the parts
that you would like to put into your Power Point presentation.


Inserting a table into your slide

To insert a table into your slide, locate where you want it in your slide to
be shown.

Next, press the Alt key + the letter N, then the letter T for table and
press the Enter key. This is the shortcut key to insert a table into your
slide.

You will now be given some options which you can tab through. There are
plenty of options to choose from (going from 1x1 Table onwards). You can
also use the Shift/Tab key to go back through the options given. If any of
the other options suit you, press the Enter key on it.

Find the size of the table you want to put into the slide show then press
the Enter key. Your table will now be inserted into your slide.

Turning on the reporting of tables when editing a table

Make sure you have the report tables check box checked under the document
formatting section in NVDA; otherwise, you will have no idea of where you
are in the table. To do this, use the NVDA key + the Ctrl key + the letter D
to quickly get to the document formatting dialogue section within NVDA.

Putting in a customized sized table

There may be times when you want to put in a certain sized table (for
example a 3 column by 2 row table).

To do a customized sized table (when you first go into the screen where it
gives you a whole lot of options), you will hear NVDA say 1 times 1 table.
Shift/tab a couple of times until you hear NVDA say insert table, then press
the Enter key. Here you will be able to enter a custom number for your
column and a custom number for your rows. Next, tab down to the ok button
then press the Enter key, and your new table will be inserted into the
PowerPoint slide.

If for any reason you are unsure where NVDA is focused, you can use the NVDA
key + the Tab key so NVDA speaks the focused position.

Entering information into your table

You can now tab through the table you have inserted and enter your
information into it.

The applications key can be used while in the table to give you other
options. These include options such as: insert rows both above and below or
insert columns both to the left or right; delete rows and delete columns;
merge cells; split cells and select table.

After you have finished inserting information into your table, press the
Escape key. You will need to go back to slide view and then play your
PowerPoint presentation. You will now hear stuff read out to you from your
table. Make sure you note (when entering information into your table) where
each tab will take you.


Creating accessible PowerPoint presentations - Office Support

If you would like to know more about how to create an accessible PowerPoint
presentation, you may find the following link from Microsoft useful
<https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Creating-accessible-PowerPoint-pre
sentations-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25>
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Creating-accessible-PowerPoint-pres
entations-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25



On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,


I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!


Can I see the notes you have put together so far?

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the
contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading
everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint
that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how
to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of
running the slide show so that only the presenter sees the notes and not
the audience.


I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can
complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or
what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their
own skills.



All the best,


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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint


Hi Cearbhall


If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010
it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it
as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc.
it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.


I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in
the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your
power point tutorial is done.


I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with
a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.


I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons
first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.



Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,


I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That's a good point about the
laptop. I'll get that under way as well.


PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to
differ for older versions than those which I am using now.


I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the
web but let's prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because
I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and
misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.


The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office
2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct
or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.


All the best,


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Hi Cearbhall


The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used.
I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.


The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or
are these laptop ones.


I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but
that is as far as i went.


Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to
use powerpoint?


Gene nz



On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,


I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?


I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.


Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA


1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane


For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide


Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by
line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.


Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above



Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.


Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the
slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.


control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.


The Slide Show


Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Hi again,


I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.


All advice welcome, thanks!


All the best,


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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint


Hi,


I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?



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Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I think what you are saying your lap top etc needs the following.

I copied it from the menu


Use Presenter View Show the full-screen slide show using Presenter View.

This view allows you to project the full-screen slide show to one monitor while viewing a special "speaker view" on another monitor that includes timings and speaker notes.

This feature requires multiple monitors or a laptop with dual-display capabilities.


The shortcut key if i heard it right is ALT + S then V.


I would have to see what to do to do it, I do not think my lap top has a copy of office 2010 on it to try it out. If i remember right you had to change some settings on the lap top, but it was more like a key press toggle then it took you back to the main lap top screen.


What was emailed any how will get uploaded tonight to the nvda tutorials for other programs page found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

.



it can always be added to i just was not sure what some of the basics were or how much to put in.
The shortcuts will also go up there tonight and will link to a drop box account.

Wounds good what you said we are here to help each other.

Gene nz


On 19/07/2016 7:42 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I think this is excellent. We could use this to instruct those who wish to develop a slide show. My own approach was for a receiver or student who is presented with a slide show and need to read it completely with confidence that they are missing nothing. Thus these two should fit comfortably beside each other. Would you agree?

 

If we can agree the overall approach, we can work together to refine the instructions for each concept.

 

The third module needed is that of configuring PowerPoint to run the slide show on an external monitor while showing the presenter the notes on a laptop or desktop  privately.

 

I have just changed over to Office 2016 today so I will be able to check whether our recommended keystrokes will work with PowerPoint 2016.

 

iAll the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

Here is what I have typed up so far below... It might take you a little while to navigate your way through it all. I also have a list of shortcuts for PowerPoint 2010 and 2013 which just need to be zipped and linked to my dropbox account and inserted into the webpage when it is posted to the website.

Regards,

Gene NZ

How to create a PowerPoint presentation with NVDA

When you open up PowerPoint it will automatically go to the first slide. This will open in slide view and this will be spoken out by NVDA. In the first slide, if you tab, you will hear the following: Subtitle placeholder and Centre Title placeholder.

If you press the Enter key on either of these options, an editable box will come up. Here, type in your text. When finished, press the Escape key, then tab to the next item and repeat the process (as in the first option given). Make sure after you have typed in your text to press the Escape key. Next, if you use the Tab key you will hear what is written in each section. You may also wish to add other items such as links, pictures or sounds etcetera to your presentation.

 

Adding extra slides

When you have finished creating your first slide, in most cases you will want to add extra slides to the presentation. To add another slide as you go use the New Slide (Ctrl + M) shortcut. When a new slide is added you will hear NVDA say slide 2 slide view.

This time when you use the Tab key you will hear NVDA say Title placeholder and Object placeholder. Repeat the steps as were done in slide one.

You will notice as you add extra slides NVDA will say the number of the slide.

To go between slides you have created

As you create your presentation the more slides you add you will hear the number of the slides go from number one to the number where you have finished your last slide (for example slide 20).

You can use the page up key to take you back through your presentation until you arrive back at slide one. If you use the page down key, you can go forwards through the presentation back to your last slide (for example slide 20). You might hear NVDA also say slide show complete.

To get quickly to the start of your PowerPoint presentation or to the end of it

To quickly get back to your first slide you can use the Home key. This will take you to the very first slide you created and you should hear the contents of the slide read out. 

To quickly get to the very last slide of your presentation you can use the End key. You should hear the name of the very last slide read out and its contents.

 

Using the F6 key to go between Windows

If you go back to your very first slide, then start pushing the F6 key, you will hear NVDA say the following: slide one slide view. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say status bar, ribbon tab home. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say slide one notes page multiline. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say thumbnail one of however many slides you have created. Press the F6 key again and you will be back to where you started.

Adding notes to your slides

If you would like to add a note to your presentation (on the slide that you are on), when you hear NVDA say slide notes page - type your note in here.

When you hear NVDA say thumb nails number one of whatever is your last slide, you can use your down and up arrow keys to go between each slide.

Watching the PowerPoint presentation you have created

To start your slide show, press the F5 key. This will start your PowerPoint presentation at the beginning of the PowerPoint you have created.

You can then either use the Enter key or the Spacebar to go to the next slide (from start to finish) of your PowerPoint. NVDA will read the slides from top to bottom. You will hear when your slide show is finished with NVDA saying PowerPoint complete at the end of the slide show.

The PowerPoint presentation can also be automated, so it changes slides at set intervals between slides. You may have to play around with the timing so the slide is not quicker than NVDA reading out the slide. To have a set interval between each slide that is the same use Alt + the letter K, then the letter I. When you hear the following read out this is the time between each slide 00:00.00. You can use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the time between each slide.  These will all be set to the same length of time you specified (for example 10 seconds) before it goes to the next slide.

Inserting a picture into your PowerPoint presentation

Whenever you insert pictures, graphs, etcetera into your PowerPoint presentation, please also add Alt text to the graphics in the slide at the same time. This way, when the screen reader comes to the picture, it will read out the Alt text in the graphic. This helps a blind or visually impaired student know what that picture/graphic is about. Alt text refers to alternate text.

 

To insert a picture into your slide show (on the current slide), press the Alt key + the letter N. Next, press the letter P, then the Enter key. A dialogue box will come up. You can tab and shift tab around it to locate your photo. In this area it will ask you what type of photo you want to insert (as in the format of the photo) and give you the option to find it on your computer or portable media. When you have located your picture, press the Enter key on it and that picture will be inserted into the slide show.

Next, use the application key and you will be given a selection of menus to arrow through. Arrow to the format picture menu, then press the Enter key. When the next screen comes up, you will be given quite a few options and might hear NVDA say Picture Corrections List. You will need to locate the Alt text menu. This might be a matter of arrowing right or left to get to the tab. You can also tab through the different sections there under the different menus.

Under the Alt text section, when you first tab, it will give you the option to give the picture a title. Enter in whatever you want to in this section (for example Dog playing in the snow).  The next time you tab, it will let you put in a description about the photo (for example our house all covered in snow with the dog playing in the snow and children chucking snow balls at each other). Next, tab down to the close button then press the Enter key. Now, the Alt text is inserted into the photo you put into the PowerPoint presentation.

You will hear content placeholder when the alternative text in the picture is read out.

Switching between the slide and its accompanying notes

If you would like to switch between the slide and any accompanying notes (if any) you can use the following shortcut. Press Control + Shift + S to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

You must be watching your slide show to do this on each slide.

 

Adding notes to your presentation

When you are putting together your slide show presentation, there are a couple of ways you can get to the notes section. One is to use the F6 key until you hear NVDA say notes page. Here, enter in your notes, then use the F6 key to cycle you back to slide view.

The second way is to use a shortcut. The shortcut key to get to this section quickly is Alt + R, then C.  Now, type in your comment, and make sure the comment lines up with the slide.

Editing or reviewing each slide

When you are in slide view you can arrow down and up this section to each slide you have created. Locate the slide you want to edit then tab once until you hear NVDA say Centre Title placeholder. Next press the Enter key then an editable dialogue box will come up with whatever you had written in this section before. Make your changes, and press the Escape key. Now it will be updated with the new information you have edited or replaced.

Tab once more until you hear NVDA say Subtitle placeholder, then press the Enter key. Make your changes then press the Escape key and the new information will be updated.

 

Inserting a hyperlink into your Power Point presentation

From time to time you might want to put a hyperlink into your PowerPoint presentation (that might point to a resource on the internet).

To add a hyperlink into your presentation, work out where in the text you would like the hyperlink to be. For example, to visit the NVAccess website please go to and put your hyper link in here.

When you have found the right spot for the hyperlink to go on your slide, press the application key on your keyboard. When a context menu comes up, arrow until you hear NVDA say the menu that says hyperlink, then press the Enter key. It will ask you to put in the hyperlink address for example http://www.nvaccess.org Once done, tab to the ok button. Then press the Enter key. Now, your hyperlink will be in the slide where you put it.

The shortcut key to insert a hyperlink is Alt + N, then I. This will give you a whole heap of extra options such as (under the Hyperlink section)... Create a link to a Web page, a picture, an e-mail address, or a program.

It is a matter of tabbing through the sections given and adding the parts that you would like to put into your Power Point presentation.

 

Inserting a table into your slide

To insert a table into your slide, locate where you want it in your slide to be shown.

Next, press the Alt key + the letter N, then the letter T for table and press the Enter key. This is the shortcut key to insert a table into your slide.

You will now be given some options which you can tab through. There are plenty of options to choose from (going from 1x1 Table onwards). You can also use the Shift/Tab key to go back through the options given. If any of the other options suit you, press the Enter key on it.

Find the size of the table you want to put into the slide show then press the Enter key. Your table will now be inserted into your slide.

Turning on the reporting of tables when editing a table

Make sure you have the report tables check box checked under the document formatting section in NVDA; otherwise, you will have no idea of where you are in the table. To do this, use the NVDA key + the Ctrl key + the letter D to quickly get to the document formatting dialogue section within NVDA.

Putting in a customized sized table

There may be times when you want to put in a certain sized table (for example a 3 column by 2 row table).

To do a customized sized table (when you first go into the screen where it gives you a whole lot of options), you will hear NVDA say 1 times 1 table. Shift/tab a couple of times until you hear NVDA say insert table, then press the Enter key. Here you will be able to enter a custom number for your column and a custom number for your rows. Next, tab down to the ok button then press the Enter key, and your new table will be inserted into the PowerPoint slide.

If for any reason you are unsure where NVDA is focused, you can use the NVDA key + the Tab key so NVDA speaks the focused position.

Entering information into your table

You can now tab through the table you have inserted and enter your information into it.

The applications key can be used while in the table to give you other options. These include options such as: insert rows both above and below or insert columns both to the left or right; delete rows and delete columns; merge cells; split cells and select table.

After you have finished inserting information into your table, press the Escape key. You will need to go back to slide view and then play your PowerPoint presentation. You will now hear stuff read out to you from your table. Make sure you note (when entering information into your table) where each tab will take you.

 

Creating accessible PowerPoint presentations - Office Support

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On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!

 

Can I see the notes you have put together so far? 

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of running the slide show  so that only the presenter sees the notes and not the audience.

 

I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their own skills.

           

 

All the best,

 

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Hi Cearbhall

 

If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.

 

I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.

 

I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.

 

I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.

 

 

Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To:
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

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Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

I think this is excellent. We could use this to instruct those who wish to develop a slide show. My own approach was for a receiver or student who is presented with a slide show and need to read it completely with confidence that they are missing nothing. Thus these two should fit comfortably beside each other. Would you agree?

 

If we can agree the overall approach, we can work together to refine the instructions for each concept.

 

The third module needed is that of configuring PowerPoint to run the slide show on an external monitor while showing the presenter the notes on a laptop or desktop  privately.

 

I have just changed over to Office 2016 today so I will be able to check whether our recommended keystrokes will work with PowerPoint 2016.

 

iAll the best,

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

Here is what I have typed up so far below... It might take you a little while to navigate your way through it all. I also have a list of shortcuts for PowerPoint 2010 and 2013 which just need to be zipped and linked to my dropbox account and inserted into the webpage when it is posted to the website.

Regards,

Gene NZ

How to create a PowerPoint presentation with NVDA

When you open up PowerPoint it will automatically go to the first slide. This will open in slide view and this will be spoken out by NVDA. In the first slide, if you tab, you will hear the following: Subtitle placeholder and Centre Title placeholder.

If you press the Enter key on either of these options, an editable box will come up. Here, type in your text. When finished, press the Escape key, then tab to the next item and repeat the process (as in the first option given). Make sure after you have typed in your text to press the Escape key. Next, if you use the Tab key you will hear what is written in each section. You may also wish to add other items such as links, pictures or sounds etcetera to your presentation.

 

Adding extra slides

When you have finished creating your first slide, in most cases you will want to add extra slides to the presentation. To add another slide as you go use the New Slide (Ctrl + M) shortcut. When a new slide is added you will hear NVDA say slide 2 slide view.

This time when you use the Tab key you will hear NVDA say Title placeholder and Object placeholder. Repeat the steps as were done in slide one.

You will notice as you add extra slides NVDA will say the number of the slide.

To go between slides you have created

As you create your presentation the more slides you add you will hear the number of the slides go from number one to the number where you have finished your last slide (for example slide 20).

You can use the page up key to take you back through your presentation until you arrive back at slide one. If you use the page down key, you can go forwards through the presentation back to your last slide (for example slide 20). You might hear NVDA also say slide show complete.

To get quickly to the start of your PowerPoint presentation or to the end of it

To quickly get back to your first slide you can use the Home key. This will take you to the very first slide you created and you should hear the contents of the slide read out. 

To quickly get to the very last slide of your presentation you can use the End key. You should hear the name of the very last slide read out and its contents.

 

Using the F6 key to go between Windows

If you go back to your very first slide, then start pushing the F6 key, you will hear NVDA say the following: slide one slide view. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say status bar, ribbon tab home. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say slide one notes page multiline. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say thumbnail one of however many slides you have created. Press the F6 key again and you will be back to where you started.

Adding notes to your slides

If you would like to add a note to your presentation (on the slide that you are on), when you hear NVDA say slide notes page - type your note in here.

When you hear NVDA say thumb nails number one of whatever is your last slide, you can use your down and up arrow keys to go between each slide.

Watching the PowerPoint presentation you have created

To start your slide show, press the F5 key. This will start your PowerPoint presentation at the beginning of the PowerPoint you have created.

You can then either use the Enter key or the Spacebar to go to the next slide (from start to finish) of your PowerPoint. NVDA will read the slides from top to bottom. You will hear when your slide show is finished with NVDA saying PowerPoint complete at the end of the slide show.

The PowerPoint presentation can also be automated, so it changes slides at set intervals between slides. You may have to play around with the timing so the slide is not quicker than NVDA reading out the slide. To have a set interval between each slide that is the same use Alt + the letter K, then the letter I. When you hear the following read out this is the time between each slide 00:00.00. You can use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the time between each slide.  These will all be set to the same length of time you specified (for example 10 seconds) before it goes to the next slide.

Inserting a picture into your PowerPoint presentation

Whenever you insert pictures, graphs, etcetera into your PowerPoint presentation, please also add Alt text to the graphics in the slide at the same time. This way, when the screen reader comes to the picture, it will read out the Alt text in the graphic. This helps a blind or visually impaired student know what that picture/graphic is about. Alt text refers to alternate text.

 

To insert a picture into your slide show (on the current slide), press the Alt key + the letter N. Next, press the letter P, then the Enter key. A dialogue box will come up. You can tab and shift tab around it to locate your photo. In this area it will ask you what type of photo you want to insert (as in the format of the photo) and give you the option to find it on your computer or portable media. When you have located your picture, press the Enter key on it and that picture will be inserted into the slide show.

Next, use the application key and you will be given a selection of menus to arrow through. Arrow to the format picture menu, then press the Enter key. When the next screen comes up, you will be given quite a few options and might hear NVDA say Picture Corrections List. You will need to locate the Alt text menu. This might be a matter of arrowing right or left to get to the tab. You can also tab through the different sections there under the different menus.

Under the Alt text section, when you first tab, it will give you the option to give the picture a title. Enter in whatever you want to in this section (for example Dog playing in the snow).  The next time you tab, it will let you put in a description about the photo (for example our house all covered in snow with the dog playing in the snow and children chucking snow balls at each other). Next, tab down to the close button then press the Enter key. Now, the Alt text is inserted into the photo you put into the PowerPoint presentation.

You will hear content placeholder when the alternative text in the picture is read out.

Switching between the slide and its accompanying notes

If you would like to switch between the slide and any accompanying notes (if any) you can use the following shortcut. Press Control + Shift + S to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

You must be watching your slide show to do this on each slide.

 

Adding notes to your presentation

When you are putting together your slide show presentation, there are a couple of ways you can get to the notes section. One is to use the F6 key until you hear NVDA say notes page. Here, enter in your notes, then use the F6 key to cycle you back to slide view.

The second way is to use a shortcut. The shortcut key to get to this section quickly is Alt + R, then C.  Now, type in your comment, and make sure the comment lines up with the slide.

Editing or reviewing each slide

When you are in slide view you can arrow down and up this section to each slide you have created. Locate the slide you want to edit then tab once until you hear NVDA say Centre Title placeholder. Next press the Enter key then an editable dialogue box will come up with whatever you had written in this section before. Make your changes, and press the Escape key. Now it will be updated with the new information you have edited or replaced.

Tab once more until you hear NVDA say Subtitle placeholder, then press the Enter key. Make your changes then press the Escape key and the new information will be updated.

 

Inserting a hyperlink into your Power Point presentation

From time to time you might want to put a hyperlink into your PowerPoint presentation (that might point to a resource on the internet).

To add a hyperlink into your presentation, work out where in the text you would like the hyperlink to be. For example, to visit the NVAccess website please go to and put your hyper link in here.

When you have found the right spot for the hyperlink to go on your slide, press the application key on your keyboard. When a context menu comes up, arrow until you hear NVDA say the menu that says hyperlink, then press the Enter key. It will ask you to put in the hyperlink address for example http://www.nvaccess.org Once done, tab to the ok button. Then press the Enter key. Now, your hyperlink will be in the slide where you put it.

The shortcut key to insert a hyperlink is Alt + N, then I. This will give you a whole heap of extra options such as (under the Hyperlink section)... Create a link to a Web page, a picture, an e-mail address, or a program.

It is a matter of tabbing through the sections given and adding the parts that you would like to put into your Power Point presentation.

 

Inserting a table into your slide

To insert a table into your slide, locate where you want it in your slide to be shown.

Next, press the Alt key + the letter N, then the letter T for table and press the Enter key. This is the shortcut key to insert a table into your slide.

You will now be given some options which you can tab through. There are plenty of options to choose from (going from 1x1 Table onwards). You can also use the Shift/Tab key to go back through the options given. If any of the other options suit you, press the Enter key on it.

Find the size of the table you want to put into the slide show then press the Enter key. Your table will now be inserted into your slide.

Turning on the reporting of tables when editing a table

Make sure you have the report tables check box checked under the document formatting section in NVDA; otherwise, you will have no idea of where you are in the table. To do this, use the NVDA key + the Ctrl key + the letter D to quickly get to the document formatting dialogue section within NVDA.

Putting in a customized sized table

There may be times when you want to put in a certain sized table (for example a 3 column by 2 row table).

To do a customized sized table (when you first go into the screen where it gives you a whole lot of options), you will hear NVDA say 1 times 1 table. Shift/tab a couple of times until you hear NVDA say insert table, then press the Enter key. Here you will be able to enter a custom number for your column and a custom number for your rows. Next, tab down to the ok button then press the Enter key, and your new table will be inserted into the PowerPoint slide.

If for any reason you are unsure where NVDA is focused, you can use the NVDA key + the Tab key so NVDA speaks the focused position.

Entering information into your table

You can now tab through the table you have inserted and enter your information into it.

The applications key can be used while in the table to give you other options. These include options such as: insert rows both above and below or insert columns both to the left or right; delete rows and delete columns; merge cells; split cells and select table.

After you have finished inserting information into your table, press the Escape key. You will need to go back to slide view and then play your PowerPoint presentation. You will now hear stuff read out to you from your table. Make sure you note (when entering information into your table) where each tab will take you.

 

Creating accessible PowerPoint presentations - Office Support

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On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!

 

Can I see the notes you have put together so far? 

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of running the slide show  so that only the presenter sees the notes and not the audience.

 

I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their own skills.

           

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:04 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.

 

I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.

 

I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.

 

I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.

 

 

Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

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Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

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sampath raj rao
 

Hi I would be more glad if I could get a copy of the same after
crafting the draft...


Thanking you,

On 7/18/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Cearbhall

Here is what I have typed up so far below... It might take you a little
while to navigate your way through it all. I also have a list of shortcuts
for PowerPoint 2010 and 2013 which just need to be zipped and linked to my
dropbox account and inserted into the webpage when it is posted to the
website.

Regards,

Gene NZ
How to create a PowerPoint presentation with NVDA
When you open up PowerPoint it will automatically go to the first slide.
This will open in slide view and this will be spoken out by NVDA. In the
first slide, if you tab, you will hear the following: Subtitle placeholder
and Centre Title placeholder.
If you press the Enter key on either of these options, an editable box will
come up. Here, type in your text. When finished, press the Escape key, then
tab to the next item and repeat the process (as in the first option given).
Make sure after you have typed in your text to press the Escape key. Next,
if you use the Tab key you will hear what is written in each section. You
may also wish to add other items such as links, pictures or sounds etcetera
to your presentation.

Adding extra slides
When you have finished creating your first slide, in most cases you will
want to add extra slides to the presentation. To add another slide as you go
use the New Slide (Ctrl + M) shortcut. When a new slide is added you will
hear NVDA say slide 2 slide view.
This time when you use the Tab key you will hear NVDA say Title placeholder
and Object placeholder. Repeat the steps as were done in slide one.
You will notice as you add extra slides NVDA will say the number of the
slide.
To go between slides you have created
As you create your presentation the more slides you add you will hear the
number of the slides go from number one to the number where you have
finished your last slide (for example slide 20).
You can use the page up key to take you back through your presentation until
you arrive back at slide one. If you use the page down key, you can go
forwards through the presentation back to your last slide (for example slide
20). You might hear NVDA also say slide show complete.
To get quickly to the start of your PowerPoint presentation or to the end of
it
To quickly get back to your first slide you can use the Home key. This will
take you to the very first slide you created and you should hear the
contents of the slide read out.
To quickly get to the very last slide of your presentation you can use the
End key. You should hear the name of the very last slide read out and its
contents.

Using the F6 key to go between Windows
If you go back to your very first slide, then start pushing the F6 key, you
will hear NVDA say the following: slide one slide view. Press the F6 key
again and you will hear NVDA say status bar, ribbon tab home. Press the F6
key again and you will hear NVDA say slide one notes page multiline. Press
the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say thumbnail one of however many
slides you have created. Press the F6 key again and you will be back to
where you started.
Adding notes to your slides
If you would like to add a note to your presentation (on the slide that you
are on), when you hear NVDA say slide notes page - type your note in here.
When you hear NVDA say thumb nails number one of whatever is your last
slide, you can use your down and up arrow keys to go between each slide.
Watching the PowerPoint presentation you have created
To start your slide show, press the F5 key. This will start your PowerPoint
presentation at the beginning of the PowerPoint you have created.
You can then either use the Enter key or the Spacebar to go to the next
slide (from start to finish) of your PowerPoint. NVDA will read the slides
from top to bottom. You will hear when your slide show is finished with NVDA
saying PowerPoint complete at the end of the slide show.
The PowerPoint presentation can also be automated, so it changes slides at
set intervals between slides. You may have to play around with the timing so
the slide is not quicker than NVDA reading out the slide. To have a set
interval between each slide that is the same use Alt + the letter K, then
the letter I. When you hear the following read out this is the time between
each slide 00:00.00. You can use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the
time between each slide. These will all be set to the same length of time
you specified (for example 10 seconds) before it goes to the next slide.
Inserting a picture into your PowerPoint presentation
Whenever you insert pictures, graphs, etcetera into your PowerPoint
presentation, please also add Alt text to the graphics in the slide at the
same time. This way, when the screen reader comes to the picture, it will
read out the Alt text in the graphic. This helps a blind or visually
impaired student know what that picture/graphic is about. Alt text refers to
alternate text.

To insert a picture into your slide show (on the current slide), press the
Alt key + the letter N. Next, press the letter P, then the Enter key. A
dialogue box will come up. You can tab and shift tab around it to locate
your photo. In this area it will ask you what type of photo you want to
insert (as in the format of the photo) and give you the option to find it on
your computer or portable media. When you have located your picture, press
the Enter key on it and that picture will be inserted into the slide show.
Next, use the application key and you will be given a selection of menus to
arrow through. Arrow to the format picture menu, then press the Enter key.
When the next screen comes up, you will be given quite a few options and
might hear NVDA say Picture Corrections List. You will need to locate the
Alt text menu. This might be a matter of arrowing right or left to get to
the tab. You can also tab through the different sections there under the
different menus.
Under the Alt text section, when you first tab, it will give you the option
to give the picture a title. Enter in whatever you want to in this section
(for example Dog playing in the snow). The next time you tab, it will let
you put in a description about the photo (for example our house all covered
in snow with the dog playing in the snow and children chucking snow balls at
each other). Next, tab down to the close button then press the Enter key.
Now, the Alt text is inserted into the photo you put into the PowerPoint
presentation.
You will hear content placeholder when the alternative text in the picture
is read out.
Switching between the slide and its accompanying notes
If you would like to switch between the slide and any accompanying notes (if
any) you can use the following shortcut. Press Control + Shift + S to switch
back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.
You must be watching your slide show to do this on each slide.

Adding notes to your presentation
When you are putting together your slide show presentation, there are a
couple of ways you can get to the notes section. One is to use the F6 key
until you hear NVDA say notes page. Here, enter in your notes, then use the
F6 key to cycle you back to slide view.
The second way is to use a shortcut. The shortcut key to get to this section
quickly is Alt + R, then C. Now, type in your comment, and make sure the
comment lines up with the slide.
Editing or reviewing each slide
When you are in slide view you can arrow down and up this section to each
slide you have created. Locate the slide you want to edit then tab once
until you hear NVDA say Centre Title placeholder. Next press the Enter key
then an editable dialogue box will come up with whatever you had written in
this section before. Make your changes, and press the Escape key. Now it
will be updated with the new information you have edited or replaced.
Tab once more until you hear NVDA say Subtitle placeholder, then press the
Enter key. Make your changes then press the Escape key and the new
information will be updated.

Inserting a hyperlink into your Power Point presentation
From time to time you might want to put a hyperlink into your PowerPoint
presentation (that might point to a resource on the internet).
To add a hyperlink into your presentation, work out where in the text you
would like the hyperlink to be. For example, to visit the NVAccess website
please go to and put your hyper link in here.
When you have found the right spot for the hyperlink to go on your slide,
press the application key on your keyboard. When a context menu comes up,
arrow until you hear NVDA say the menu that says hyperlink, then press the
Enter key. It will ask you to put in the hyperlink address for example
http://www.nvaccess.org Once done, tab to the ok button. Then press the
Enter key. Now, your hyperlink will be in the slide where you put it.
The shortcut key to insert a hyperlink is Alt + N, then I. This will give
you a whole heap of extra options such as (under the Hyperlink section)...
Create a link to a Web page, a picture, an e-mail address, or a program.
It is a matter of tabbing through the sections given and adding the parts
that you would like to put into your Power Point presentation.

Inserting a table into your slide
To insert a table into your slide, locate where you want it in your slide to
be shown.
Next, press the Alt key + the letter N, then the letter T for table and
press the Enter key. This is the shortcut key to insert a table into your
slide.
You will now be given some options which you can tab through. There are
plenty of options to choose from (going from 1x1 Table onwards). You can
also use the Shift/Tab key to go back through the options given. If any of
the other options suit you, press the Enter key on it.
Find the size of the table you want to put into the slide show then press
the Enter key. Your table will now be inserted into your slide.
Turning on the reporting of tables when editing a table
Make sure you have the report tables check box checked under the document
formatting section in NVDA; otherwise, you will have no idea of where you
are in the table. To do this, use the NVDA key + the Ctrl key + the letter D
to quickly get to the document formatting dialogue section within NVDA.
Putting in a customized sized table
There may be times when you want to put in a certain sized table (for
example a 3 column by 2 row table).
To do a customized sized table (when you first go into the screen where it
gives you a whole lot of options), you will hear NVDA say 1 times 1 table.
Shift/tab a couple of times until you hear NVDA say insert table, then press
the Enter key. Here you will be able to enter a custom number for your
column and a custom number for your rows. Next, tab down to the ok button
then press the Enter key, and your new table will be inserted into the
PowerPoint slide.
If for any reason you are unsure where NVDA is focused, you can use the NVDA
key + the Tab key so NVDA speaks the focused position.
Entering information into your table
You can now tab through the table you have inserted and enter your
information into it.
The applications key can be used while in the table to give you other
options. These include options such as: insert rows both above and below or
insert columns both to the left or right; delete rows and delete columns;
merge cells; split cells and select table.
After you have finished inserting information into your table, press the
Escape key. You will need to go back to slide view and then play your
PowerPoint presentation. You will now hear stuff read out to you from your
table. Make sure you note (when entering information into your table) where
each tab will take you.

Creating accessible PowerPoint presentations - Office Support
If you would like to know more about how to create an accessible PowerPoint
presentation, you may find the following link from Microsoft useful
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Creating-accessible-PowerPoint-presentations-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25


On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Gene,

I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!

Can I see the notes you have put together so far?
I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the
contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading
everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint
that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how
to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of
running the slide show so that only the presenter sees the notes and not
the audience.

I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can
complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or
what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their
own skills.


All the best,

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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint


Hi Cearbhall



If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010
it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it
as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc.
it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.



I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in
the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your
power point tutorial is done.



I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with
a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.



I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons
first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.




Gene nz
On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Gene,

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the
laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to
differ for older versions than those which I am using now.

I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the
web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because
I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and
misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office
2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!
If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct
or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

All the best,

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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint


Hi Cearbhall



The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used.
I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.



The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or
are these laptop ones.



I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but
that is as far as i went.



Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to
use powerpoint?



Gene nz



On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

1. File opens in slide view
2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

For the first slide:
3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;
4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;
5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;
6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.
7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide

Press page down For the second slide:
8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder
9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder
10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by
line
11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

Press page down for the third slide
12. Press tab for the Title placeholder
13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above


Press pagedown for slide 4;
Same as slide 3.

Press page down for slide 5
15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;
16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the
slide;
17. Press tab for title placeholder
18. Press tab for text placeholder.
19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

control+home jumps to the first slide
control+end jumps to the last slide.

The Slide Show

Press F5 to start the slide show
NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.
1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;
2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.
3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.
4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.
5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.
6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.
7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.
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Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

Hi again,

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

All advice welcome, thanks!

All the best,

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

Hi,

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?


All the best,

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Hi Cearbhall

Here is what I have typed up so far below... It might take you a little while to navigate your way through it all. I also have a list of shortcuts for PowerPoint 2010 and 2013 which just need to be zipped and linked to my dropbox account and inserted into the webpage when it is posted to the website.

Regards,

Gene NZ

How to create a PowerPoint presentation with NVDA

When you open up PowerPoint it will automatically go to the first slide. This will open in slide view and this will be spoken out by NVDA. In the first slide, if you tab, you will hear the following: Subtitle placeholder and Centre Title placeholder.

If you press the Enter key on either of these options, an editable box will come up. Here, type in your text. When finished, press the Escape key, then tab to the next item and repeat the process (as in the first option given). Make sure after you have typed in your text to press the Escape key. Next, if you use the Tab key you will hear what is written in each section. You may also wish to add other items such as links, pictures or sounds etcetera to your presentation.

 

Adding extra slides

When you have finished creating your first slide, in most cases you will want to add extra slides to the presentation. To add another slide as you go use the New Slide (Ctrl + M) shortcut. When a new slide is added you will hear NVDA say slide 2 slide view.

This time when you use the Tab key you will hear NVDA say Title placeholder and Object placeholder. Repeat the steps as were done in slide one.

You will notice as you add extra slides NVDA will say the number of the slide.

To go between slides you have created

As you create your presentation the more slides you add you will hear the number of the slides go from number one to the number where you have finished your last slide (for example slide 20).

You can use the page up key to take you back through your presentation until you arrive back at slide one. If you use the page down key, you can go forwards through the presentation back to your last slide (for example slide 20). You might hear NVDA also say slide show complete.

To get quickly to the start of your PowerPoint presentation or to the end of it

To quickly get back to your first slide you can use the Home key. This will take you to the very first slide you created and you should hear the contents of the slide read out.  

To quickly get to the very last slide of your presentation you can use the End key. You should hear the name of the very last slide read out and its contents.

 

Using the F6 key to go between Windows

If you go back to your very first slide, then start pushing the F6 key, you will hear NVDA say the following: slide one slide view. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say status bar, ribbon tab home. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say slide one notes page multiline. Press the F6 key again and you will hear NVDA say thumbnail one of however many slides you have created. Press the F6 key again and you will be back to where you started.

Adding notes to your slides

If you would like to add a note to your presentation (on the slide that you are on), when you hear NVDA say slide notes page - type your note in here.

When you hear NVDA say thumb nails number one of whatever is your last slide, you can use your down and up arrow keys to go between each slide.

Watching the PowerPoint presentation you have created

To start your slide show, press the F5 key. This will start your PowerPoint presentation at the beginning of the PowerPoint you have created.

You can then either use the Enter key or the Spacebar to go to the next slide (from start to finish) of your PowerPoint. NVDA will read the slides from top to bottom. You will hear when your slide show is finished with NVDA saying PowerPoint complete at the end of the slide show.

The PowerPoint presentation can also be automated, so it changes slides at set intervals between slides. You may have to play around with the timing so the slide is not quicker than NVDA reading out the slide. To have a set interval between each slide that is the same use Alt + the letter K, then the letter I. When you hear the following read out this is the time between each slide 00:00.00. You can use the up and down arrow keys to adjust the time between each slide.  These will all be set to the same length of time you specified (for example 10 seconds) before it goes to the next slide.

Inserting a picture into your PowerPoint presentation

Whenever you insert pictures, graphs, etcetera into your PowerPoint presentation, please also add Alt text to the graphics in the slide at the same time. This way, when the screen reader comes to the picture, it will read out the Alt text in the graphic. This helps a blind or visually impaired student know what that picture/graphic is about. Alt text refers to alternate text.

 

To insert a picture into your slide show (on the current slide), press the Alt key + the letter N. Next, press the letter P, then the Enter key. A dialogue box will come up. You can tab and shift tab around it to locate your photo. In this area it will ask you what type of photo you want to insert (as in the format of the photo) and give you the option to find it on your computer or portable media. When you have located your picture, press the Enter key on it and that picture will be inserted into the slide show.

Next, use the application key and you will be given a selection of menus to arrow through. Arrow to the format picture menu, then press the Enter key. When the next screen comes up, you will be given quite a few options and might hear NVDA say Picture Corrections List. You will need to locate the Alt text menu. This might be a matter of arrowing right or left to get to the tab. You can also tab through the different sections there under the different menus.

Under the Alt text section, when you first tab, it will give you the option to give the picture a title. Enter in whatever you want to in this section (for example Dog playing in the snow).  The next time you tab, it will let you put in a description about the photo (for example our house all covered in snow with the dog playing in the snow and children chucking snow balls at each other). Next, tab down to the close button then press the Enter key. Now, the Alt text is inserted into the photo you put into the PowerPoint presentation.

You will hear content placeholder when the alternative text in the picture is read out.

Switching between the slide and its accompanying notes

If you would like to switch between the slide and any accompanying notes (if any) you can use the following shortcut. Press Control + Shift + S to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

You must be watching your slide show to do this on each slide.

 

Adding notes to your presentation

When you are putting together your slide show presentation, there are a couple of ways you can get to the notes section. One is to use the F6 key until you hear NVDA say notes page. Here, enter in your notes, then use the F6 key to cycle you back to slide view.

The second way is to use a shortcut. The shortcut key to get to this section quickly is Alt + R, then C.  Now, type in your comment, and make sure the comment lines up with the slide.

Editing or reviewing each slide

When you are in slide view you can arrow down and up this section to each slide you have created. Locate the slide you want to edit then tab once until you hear NVDA say Centre Title placeholder. Next press the Enter key then an editable dialogue box will come up with whatever you had written in this section before. Make your changes, and press the Escape key. Now it will be updated with the new information you have edited or replaced.

Tab once more until you hear NVDA say Subtitle placeholder, then press the Enter key. Make your changes then press the Escape key and the new information will be updated.

 

Inserting a hyperlink into your Power Point presentation

From time to time you might want to put a hyperlink into your PowerPoint presentation (that might point to a resource on the internet).

To add a hyperlink into your presentation, work out where in the text you would like the hyperlink to be. For example, to visit the NVAccess website please go to and put your hyper link in here.

When you have found the right spot for the hyperlink to go on your slide, press the application key on your keyboard. When a context menu comes up, arrow until you hear NVDA say the menu that says hyperlink, then press the Enter key. It will ask you to put in the hyperlink address for example http://www.nvaccess.org Once done, tab to the ok button. Then press the Enter key. Now, your hyperlink will be in the slide where you put it.

The shortcut key to insert a hyperlink is Alt + N, then I. This will give you a whole heap of extra options such as (under the Hyperlink section)... Create a link to a Web page, a picture, an e-mail address, or a program.

It is a matter of tabbing through the sections given and adding the parts that you would like to put into your Power Point presentation.

 

Inserting a table into your slide

To insert a table into your slide, locate where you want it in your slide to be shown.

Next, press the Alt key + the letter N, then the letter T for table and press the Enter key. This is the shortcut key to insert a table into your slide.

You will now be given some options which you can tab through. There are plenty of options to choose from (going from 1x1 Table onwards). You can also use the Shift/Tab key to go back through the options given. If any of the other options suit you, press the Enter key on it.

Find the size of the table you want to put into the slide show then press the Enter key. Your table will now be inserted into your slide.

Turning on the reporting of tables when editing a table

Make sure you have the report tables check box checked under the document formatting section in NVDA; otherwise, you will have no idea of where you are in the table. To do this, use the NVDA key + the Ctrl key + the letter D to quickly get to the document formatting dialogue section within NVDA.

Putting in a customized sized table

There may be times when you want to put in a certain sized table (for example a 3 column by 2 row table).

To do a customized sized table (when you first go into the screen where it gives you a whole lot of options), you will hear NVDA say 1 times 1 table. Shift/tab a couple of times until you hear NVDA say insert table, then press the Enter key. Here you will be able to enter a custom number for your column and a custom number for your rows. Next, tab down to the ok button then press the Enter key, and your new table will be inserted into the PowerPoint slide.

If for any reason you are unsure where NVDA is focused, you can use the NVDA key + the Tab key so NVDA speaks the focused position.

Entering information into your table

You can now tab through the table you have inserted and enter your information into it.

The applications key can be used while in the table to give you other options. These include options such as: insert rows both above and below or insert columns both to the left or right; delete rows and delete columns; merge cells; split cells and select table.

After you have finished inserting information into your table, press the Escape key. You will need to go back to slide view and then play your PowerPoint presentation. You will now hear stuff read out to you from your table. Make sure you note (when entering information into your table) where each tab will take you.

 

Creating accessible PowerPoint presentations - Office Support

If you would like to know more about how to create an accessible PowerPoint presentation, you may find the following link from Microsoft useful https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Creating-accessible-PowerPoint-presentations-6f7772b2-2f33-4bd2-8ca7-dae3b2b3ef25



On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!

 

Can I see the notes you have put together so far? 

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of running the slide show  so that only the presenter sees the notes and not the audience.

 

I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their own skills.

           

 

All the best,

 

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Hi Cearbhall

 

If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.

 

I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.

 

I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.

 

I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.

 

 

Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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To:
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Hi Cearbhall


I will flick you a draft of it later on today, actually before I go to bed tonight. I just want to tidy it up a bit more what i have done so far just needs to be grammar checked etc.


The same draft will also go to others who wanted a copy on the list as well. It will be in a docx format unless when tidied up it is put into a html format with formatted headings etc for the website.

Not been sighted or able to see the power point I was wondering how much to put in it my self or more along the basics to get some one up and running to do a basic slide show. I will also have a full list of power point shortcuts for 2010 and i think it is 2013 for power point that will go to the online version which will be linked to a drop box account.

It sounds like a good idea that you mentioned so we do not hopefully double up.
Maybe we already have?

I was also considering doing a audio version as well depending on how much content there is.


I do also have excel shortcuts etc but do not know really how even to do the basics on excel. the last time I touched that program was doing a computer course.

One thing i do think though is people who are new to ribbons need to get there head around on how to use them correctly. I am not a expert using them but enough to get the job done that I want to do.

I think i have a written tutorial written up on how to use them but would have to find it.




Gene nz

On 17/07/2016 9:59 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!

 

Can I see the notes you have put together so far? 

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of running the slide show  so that only the presenter sees the notes and not the audience.

 

I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their own skills.

           

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.

 

I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.

 

I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.

 

I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.

 

 

Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

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hi.
please email me your tutorial.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/17/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Gene,



I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!



Can I see the notes you have put together so far?

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the
contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading
everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint
that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask
how
to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of
running the slide show so that only the presenter sees the notes and not
the audience.



I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can
complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or
what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their
own skills.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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New
Zealand
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall



If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010
it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it
as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc.
it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.



I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in
the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your
power point tutorial is done.



I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with
a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.



I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons
first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.





Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,



I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That's a good point about the
laptop. I'll get that under way as well.



PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to
differ for older versions than those which I am using now.



I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the
web but let's prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because
I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and
misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.



The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office
2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct
or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.



All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall



The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be
used.
I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.



The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or
are these laptop ones.



I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but
that is as far as i went.



Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to
use powerpoint?



Gene nz





On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,



I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?



I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.



Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA



1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane



For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide



Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.



Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above





Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.



Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.



control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.



The Slide Show



Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Hi again,



I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.



All advice welcome, thanks!



All the best,



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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,



I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?





All the best,



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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

I am delighted to hear that you are working on this too!

 

Can I see the notes you have put together so far? 

I am wondering how far to go? My own notes are a guide to reading the contents of a Powerpoint presentation with the confidence that I am reading everything and missing nothing. I see from other tutorials on PowerPoint that some people would like to embellish the presentation and others ask how to build a presentation from scratch and then deal with the problem of running the slide show  so that only the presenter sees the notes and not the audience.

 

I think we could see what we each have and then opt for modules that we can complete for now. We could then consider what else needs to be written or what other tutorials could be pointed to so that people can develop their own skills.

           

 

All the best,

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use PowerPoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a PowerPoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.

 

I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.

 

I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.

 

I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.

 

 

Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Albert Ruel
 

I would appreciate receiving a copy of that tutorial. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 2:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use powerpoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a powerpoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.

 

I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.

 

I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.

 

I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.

 

 

Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
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Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
I'm interested in the tutorial, if you can five it to me I'll be so congratulated.

Thanks in advance.

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El 15 jul 2016, a las 23:04, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> escribió:

Hi Cearbhall


If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use powerpoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a powerpoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.


I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.


I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.


I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.



Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Cearbhall


If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use powerpoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a powerpoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet but more can be added to it.


I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.


I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.


I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.

Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.



Gene nz

On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Gene,

 

I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.

 

PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am using now.  

 

I would be delighted to  have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.

 

The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016 so that is hopeful!

If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would be a great help.

 

All the best,

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 10:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall

 

The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.

 

The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.

 

I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.

 

Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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hi again.
i installed the trial version of microsoft office to test with nvda.
nvda has great support with powerpoint,
and since i was not familiar with microsoft powerpoint and libreoffice
impress i did not know how to use it.
excuse me if my informations was incorrect about nvda and its poor
support for libreoffice impress.
i wish that someone help me to learn how to use impress with nvda@
excuse me again and God bless you all.

On 7/15/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Pranav,



An interesting option! I will watch out for developments.



Meanwhile, I think we have covered all the issues with regard to PowerPoint
and its use with NVDA. I’ll write up my tutorial and post it to the list
for
observations.



Thanks for your help and to all the others who contributed.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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All
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 1:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall,



The modern PowerPoint file is a package file. A lot of it is XML. You can
review tables in slide show mode but otherwise, as of this writing, I think
we will have to edit tables outside PowerPoint. Having said that, it is
worth exploring if the tables are rendered in the NVDA object model and if
we can’t build in that feature into NVDA.



Pranav



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Pranav,



Thanks for this detail! I am coming to realise more and more that
PowerPoint
is simply a tool for managing parts of a flat text file. This occurred to
me
when I opened a PowerPoint file on the iPhone. The iPhone ignores the
various control characters that PowerPoint embeds in the file to create the
slides and various display options. It simply presents the flat file!



In that case, I suppose that PowerPoint is not capable of creating a Word
table which we could navigate by using the usual screen reader table
navigation controls.



If I am right about the basic nature of the PowerPoint file, and I am open
to criticism on this if anyone can advise me, then the Powerpoint program
is
simply picking up certain characters that mean the beginning and end of a
slide and various other characters that mark the beginning and end of its
various object placeholders



For this reason, I think we can only make use of the F6 key and the tab
and
arrows to get around the PowerPoint document. I know JAWS offers far more
but I think these are only gilding the lily!



All the best,



Cearbhall



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From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pranav
Lal
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:21 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi Cearbhall,



I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint.
If
I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the
ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the
table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the
table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better
answer.



Pranav



From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:01 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Pranav,



Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience
reflects my own.



I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you
say,
column divisions are not echoed so:

1. How do you know when you are in one column or another?

2. Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?

3. What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have
already
described?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi all,



In terms of table navigation and editing:

1. I can read tables in slide show mode.

2. When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a
table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to
happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3. I am on PowerPoint 2016 and whatever has been discussed so far is
applicable to that version.

4. The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to
f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav





From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint? Table navigation does
not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike



Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos.


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via <http://groups.io>
Groups.io
< <mailto:sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io>
wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between
pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous
and
next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,



I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?



I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.



Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA



1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane



For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide



Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.



Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above





Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.



Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.



control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.



The Slide Show



Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: ' <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi again,



I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.



All advice welcome, thanks!



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,



I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Pranav,

 

An interesting option! I will watch out for developments.

 

Meanwhile, I think we have covered all the issues with regard to PowerPoint and its use with NVDA. I’ll write up my tutorial and post it to the list for observations.

 

Thanks for your help and to all the others who contributed.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav All
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 1:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

The modern PowerPoint file is a package file. A lot of it is XML. You can review tables in slide show mode but otherwise, as of this writing, I think we will have to edit tables outside PowerPoint. Having said that, it is worth exploring if the tables are rendered in the NVDA object model and if we can’t build in that feature into NVDA.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Pranav,

 

Thanks for this detail! I am coming to realise more and more that PowerPoint is simply a tool for managing parts of a flat text file. This occurred to me when I opened a PowerPoint file on the iPhone. The iPhone ignores the various control characters that PowerPoint embeds in the file to create the slides and various display options. It simply presents the flat file!

 

In that case, I suppose that PowerPoint is not capable of creating a Word table which we could navigate by using the usual screen reader table navigation controls.

 

If I am right about the basic nature of the PowerPoint file, and I am open to criticism on this if anyone can advise me, then the Powerpoint program is simply picking up certain characters that mean the beginning and end of a slide and various other characters that mark the beginning and end of its various object placeholders

 

For this reason, I think we can only make use of the  F6 key and the tab and arrows to get around the PowerPoint document. I know JAWS offers far more but I think these are only gilding the lily!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:21 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint. If I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better answer.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:01 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Pranav,

 

Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience reflects my own.

 

I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you say, column divisions are not echoed  so:

1.      How do you know when you are in one column or another?

2.      Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?

3.      What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have already described?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via
Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Pranav Lal
 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

The modern powerPoint file is a package file. A lot of it is XML. You can review tables in slide show mode but otherwise, as of this writing, I think we will have to edit tables outside PowerPoint. Having said that, it is worth exploring if the tables are rendered in the NVDA object model and if we can’t build in that feature into NVDA.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Pranav,

 

Thanks for this detail! I am coming to realise more and more that Powerpoint is simply a tool for managing parts of a flat text file. This occurred to me when I opened a PowerPoint file on the iPhone. The iphone ignores the various control characters that Powerpoint embeds in the file to create the slides and various display options. It simply presents the flat file!

 

In that case, I suppose that PowerPoint is not capable of creating a Word table which we could navigate by using the usual screen reader table navigation controls.

 

If I am right about the basic nature of the PowerPoint file, and I am open to criticism on this if anyone can advise me, then the Powerpoint program is simply picking up certain characters that mean the beginning and end of a slide and various other characters that mark the beginning and end of its various object placeholders

 

For this reason, I think we can only make use of the  F6 key and the tab and arrows to get around the PowerPoint document. I know JAWS offers far more but I think these are only gilding the lily!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint. If I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better answer.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Pranav,

 

Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience reflects my own.

 

I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you say, column divisions are not echoed  so:

1.      How do you know when you are in one column or another?

2.      Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?

3.      What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have already described?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Pranav,

 

Thanks for this detail! I am coming to realise more and more that Powerpoint is simply a tool for managing parts of a flat text file. This occurred to me when I opened a PowerPoint file on the iPhone. The iphone ignores the various control characters that Powerpoint embeds in the file to create the slides and various display options. It simply presents the flat file!

 

In that case, I suppose that PowerPoint is not capable of creating a Word table which we could navigate by using the usual screen reader table navigation controls.

 

If I am right about the basic nature of the PowerPoint file, and I am open to criticism on this if anyone can advise me, then the Powerpoint program is simply picking up certain characters that mean the beginning and end of a slide and various other characters that mark the beginning and end of its various object placeholders

 

For this reason, I think we can only make use of the  F6 key and the tab and arrows to get around the PowerPoint document. I know JAWS offers far more but I think these are only gilding the lily!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint. If I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better answer.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Pranav,

 

Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience reflects my own.

 

I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you say, column divisions are not echoed  so:

1.      How do you know when you are in one column or another?

2.      Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?

3.      What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have already described?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via
Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 


Pranav Lal
 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint. If I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better answer.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Pranav,

 

Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience reflects my own.

 

I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you say, column divisions are not echoed  so:

1.      How do you know when you are in one column or another?

2.      Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?

3.      What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have already described?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Pranav,

 

Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience reflects my own.

 

I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you say, column divisions are not echoed  so:

1.      How do you know when you are in one column or another?

2.      Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?

3.      What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have already described?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via
Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 


Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

 

In terms of table navigation and editing:

1.       I can read tables in slide show mode.

2.       When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.

3.       I am on PowerPoint 2016 and  whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version.

4.       The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6.

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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