Jeff's addon repository
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Akshaya Choudhary
Hi!
I'm new to all this. Somebody suggested to use eloquence addon for NVDA. It's available on this website called, Jeff's Repository. Is is safe to download from there? -- Regards, Sociohack
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Gene
That isn't a legal add on. Eloquence can be
purchased legally. There is a SAPI5 version that can work with any program
that supports SAPI5 speech and there is a legal add on that can be
purchased. The add on, however, has very poor speech because the
Eloquence speech has a lot of artifacts. The SAPI 5 version doesn't
have these artifacts.
There are demos of both Eloquence
speech programs available so you can try them.
But regarding your original question, the list
doesn't offer support on illegal software as a matter of list
policy.
Gene
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I'm new to all this. Somebody suggested to use eloquence addon for NVDA. It's available on this website called, Jeff's Repository. Is is safe to download from there? -- Regards, Sociohack
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I have not looked lately to know what this add on is, but it used to actually say that it would only work on machines where a free to use version of the synth was installed. This would indicate to me that its either Via Voice or a very old copy used with Jaws prehistoric versions!
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If the add on is very old it may not even work on newer versions of nvda in any case. I think the site does hove abandoned and older versions of all sorts of bits and pieces and really any of them are truly at the users own risk. we here cannot condone their use as we have no idea where a lot of them come from. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository That isn't a legal add on. Eloquence can be purchased legally. There is a SAPI5 version that can work with any program that supports SAPI5 speech and there is a legal add on that can be purchased. The add on, however, has very poor speech because the Eloquence speech has a lot of artifacts. The SAPI 5 version doesn't have these artifacts. There are demos of both Eloquence speech programs available so you can try them. But regarding your original question, the list doesn't offer support on illegal software as a matter of list policy. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sociohack AC Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository Hi! I'm new to all this. Somebody suggested to use eloquence addon for NVDA. It's available on this website called, Jeff's Repository. Is is safe to download from there? -- Regards, Sociohack
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My responce to this and I say it for all users, the cracked version is better.
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The code factory system is a problem both for vocaliser and eloquence, you need to deactivate it each time you install a feature update else you loose the licences, I have had game developers get really brassed off with that. Well one at least. Personally I have the onecore voices, and old dectalk which is old but still and the old sapi5 realspeak but to be honest, even though I'd like it till I can find something which is mine especially after I buy it I won't be spending any more cash on speech maybe if acapella ever gets a synth I can afford or ivona maybe but I don't know at this point.
On 7/14/2018 8:21 AM, Gene wrote:
That isn't a legal add on. Eloquence can be purchased legally. There is a SAPI5 version that can work with any program that supports SAPI5 speech and there is a legal add on that can be purchased. The add on, however, has very poor speech because the Eloquence speech has a lot of artifacts. The SAPI 5 version doesn't have these artifacts.
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Akshaya Choudhary
Alright. Thanks for the info!
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Gene
Your message may have the effect of discouraging
use of add ons that are, as far as I know, legal and probably work. The
kind of notice you are discussing about requiring a synthesizer is for add ons
like the Dectalk Express add on. That add on allows the Dectalk Express to
work with NVDA. You are told in the information for that Add On that you
need the Dectalk Express to use it. The DecTalk Express is an external
synthesizer. So of course you need the synthesizer.
I believe there is an add on that allows the Double
Talk synthesizer to work as well. I assume the same warning is given
because that is an external synthesizer.
I'm not generalizing in any way about what add ons
are current and which ones may or may not work with Windows 10, for example and,
of course, NVDA is going to be changing over time and many add ons on that page
may not work with new versions of NVDA in the relatively near future. But
we need to be clear about synthesizer add ons. Those that talk about
needing a synthesizer are, as I recall the page, for those that work with
external synthesizers.
Gene
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository actually say that it would only work on machines where a free to use version of the synth was installed. This would indicate to me that its either Via Voice or a very old copy used with Jaws prehistoric versions! If the add on is very old it may not even work on newer versions of nvda in any case. I think the site does hove abandoned and older versions of all sorts of bits and pieces and really any of them are truly at the users own risk. we here cannot condone their use as we have no idea where a lot of them come from. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository That isn't a legal add on. Eloquence can be purchased legally. There is a SAPI5 version that can work with any program that supports SAPI5 speech and there is a legal add on that can be purchased. The add on, however, has very poor speech because the Eloquence speech has a lot of artifacts. The SAPI 5 version doesn't have these artifacts. There are demos of both Eloquence speech programs available so you can try them. But regarding your original question, the list doesn't offer support on illegal software as a matter of list policy. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sociohack AC Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository Hi! I'm new to all this. Somebody suggested to use eloquence addon for NVDA. It's available on this website called, Jeff's Repository. Is is safe to download from there? -- Regards, Sociohack
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Gene
Encouraging the use of illegal software is not
allowed on list and that includes praising or comparing it to other
software.
Gene Asner, Moderator
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better. The code factory system is a problem both for vocaliser and eloquence, you need to deactivate it each time you install a feature update else you loose the licences, I have had game developers get really brassed off with that. Well one at least. Personally I have the onecore voices, and old dectalk which is old but still and the old sapi5 realspeak but to be honest, even though I'd like it till I can find something which is mine especially after I buy it I won't be spending any more cash on speech maybe if acapella ever gets a synth I can afford or ivona maybe but I don't know at this point. On 7/14/2018 8:21 AM, Gene wrote: > That isn't a legal add on. Eloquence can be purchased legally. There is a SAPI5 version that can work with any program that supports SAPI5 speech and there is a legal add on that can be purchased. The add on, however, has very poor speech because the Eloquence speech has a lot of artifacts. The SAPI 5 version doesn't have these artifacts. > > There are demos of both Eloquence speech programs available so you can try them. > > But regarding your original question, the list doesn't offer support on illegal software as a matter of list policy. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sociohack AC > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:03 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository > > > Hi! > I'm new to all this. Somebody suggested to use eloquence addon for NVDA. It's available on this website called, Jeff's Repository. Is is safe to download from there? >
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Kenny Peyattt jr.
I would not download it because it is alegal. I would try purchasing the eti eloquence voices. I don’t know the site to get them from but some one on this list might be able to poast a link for you to purchase the voices. Kenny Peyatt jr.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Hi!
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Gene
Many people are using the legal Eloquence with NVDA
so I expect that information will be forthcoming.
Gene
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From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository I would not download it because it is alegal. I would try purchasing the eti eloquence voices. I don’t know the site to get them from but some one on this list might be able to poast a link for you to purchase the voices. Kenny Peyatt jr.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Hi!
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Akshaya Choudhary
-- yeah that would be great Regards, Sociohack
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Devin Prater
This is the stand-alone addon, and yes, is unfortunately against US and other country copyright law.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:02 PM Sociohack AC <acsociopath@...> wrote: -- yeah that would be great Regards, Sociohack
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Well I really hope that code factory can improve their licencing system, right now, if you don't deactivate the licences before your next windows feature update you loose them, thats fine but there are updates a lot of them, and sometimes especially with home systems they get updated automatically.
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I was going to legally buy, but I am not going that way, in fact I need to rethink what speech synths I buy if any or if I stay with the os ones only.
On 7/14/2018 9:00 AM, Gene wrote:
Many people are using the legal Eloquence with NVDA so I expect that information will be forthcoming.
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John Isige
I got mine from AT Guys.
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https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=20&zenid=fd1a2a28b741805c459bf85bb9ed553c But you can also buy it directly from Code Factory. http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/eloquence-for-windows/
On 7/13/2018 19:31, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well I really hope that code factory can improve their licencing
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Josh Kennedy
I have a mixture on my system. I have the legal sapi5 eloquence installed. But in case I get a feature update and I lose it, I also use the illegal addon even though I legally purchased and have a legal license to use sapi5 eloquence. The only difference is: my legal sapi5 eloquence works with my favorite games and stuff. and it works with NVDA. They should change the copyright law to state that: if you legally purchased any copy of eloquence, but if another unofficial copy works better in some circumstances then, as long as you can show proof that you own a legal copy, you can also use any illegal copies ... but at your own risk. I actually purchased two legal sapi5 eloquence keys. But I only use one of them. that's what it should say... use illegal eloquence at your own risk and we do not support it so take any such discussions off list.
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Ervin, Glenn
I wonder if the dectalk one is the access32, a software dectalk. Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository
Your message may have the effect of discouraging use of add ons that are, as far as I know, legal and probably work. The kind of notice you are discussing about requiring a synthesizer is for add ons like the Dectalk Express add on. That add on allows the Dectalk Express to work with NVDA. You are told in the information for that Add On that you need the Dectalk Express to use it. The DecTalk Express is an external synthesizer. So of course you need the synthesizer.
I believe there is an add on that allows the Double Talk synthesizer to work as well. I assume the same warning is given because that is an external synthesizer.
I'm not generalizing in any way about what add ons are current and which ones may or may not work with Windows 10, for example and, of course, NVDA is going to be changing over time and many add ons on that page may not work with new versions of NVDA in the relatively near future. But we need to be clear about synthesizer add ons. Those that talk about needing a synthesizer are, as I recall the page, for those that work with external synthesizers.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository
I have not looked lately to know what this add on is, but it used to
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erik burggraaf <erik@...>
I believe jeff's repository has add-ons for both. I use the software dektalk access 32 add-on myself which I download from there. I neither know, nor care what it's licencing may be. It works which is more than can be said for some of the paid commercial synthesizer add-ons for NVDA. Enjoy,
On July 16, 2018 10:53:59 AM "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:
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yes it is On 7/16/2018 7:51 AM, Ervin, Glenn
wrote:
-- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Gene
I've stated before, as much as two or three days
ago, that promoting illegal software is not, I emphatically repeat not, allowed
on list. This is not my policy. It is the policy of the list owner
and it is standard policy on a lot of lists. Gratuitously mentioning and
impliedly recommending illegal software is not allowed.
I support this list policy. It doesn't matter
what my personal feelings are about when and if it is justifiable to use illegal
software as an ethical question. As
moderator, I am responsible for enforcing list policy. The policy is in
place not because of the views of those who run the list on the question.
It is in place because promoting illegal software exposes the list to legal
liability. If people continue to disregard my warnings on this subject,
they will be moderated temporarily. I'm sorry to have to send this kind of
stern message. I moderate with a lite toch whenever possible. But
it's time for such discussions and implied endorsements to stop.
Gene, Moderator
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From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jeff's addon repository I believe jeff's repository has add-ons for both. I use the software dektalk access 32 add-on myself which I download from there. I neither know, nor care what it's licencing may be. It works which is more than can be said for some of the paid commercial synthesizer add-ons for NVDA. Enjoy, On July 16, 2018 10:53:59 AM "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:
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Brice Mijares
I prefer one core voices.
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On 7/16/2018 9:08 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
I believe jeff's repository has add-ons for both.� I use the software dektalk access 32 add-on myself which I download from there.� I neither know, nor care what it's licencing may be.� It works which is more than can be said for some of the paid commercial synthesizer add-ons for NVDA.
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Eloquence is king for me. I never had any problem with any addons
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posted to Jeffs nvda list or grossgang for that matter. What do you think about NVDA open sourcing eloquence? I think NVDA should only use open sourced add ons. This way NVDA can never get into a legal dispute. Free and open source as a requirement.
On 7/16/18, Brice Mijares <bricemijares@att.net> wrote:
I prefer one core voices.
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