FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA


 

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From: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 11:09 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@...>; joseph.lee22590@...
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

We concentrated on getting wxPython4, Braille display auto detection and system test framework into 2018.3.

Once 2018.3 is finalized, we will look at getting speech Refactor into NVDA master as soon as we can, so that it will be available in 2018.4.


Mick




On 4/08/2018 1:52 PM, joseph.lee22590@... wrote:

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 8:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA

Hello,

This question is for NVDA developers. At NVDACon it was announced that there is going to be a new speech framework in NVDA. I assume it's this
issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/pull/7599

However, there is not much activity in this issue lately. I am wondering if NVDA is still planning to finish this issue and if there is any estimate how soon?

I am looking forward towards this issue because I have an idea of another add-on that would be possible if new speech framework is implemented.


Thanks

Tony







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Josh Kennedy
 

what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages? 


Larry Wang
 

Power saving feature of some Bluetooth headset may also cause similar issue.My bluetooth headset just cut off a few miliseconds from the begining of each segment of sound.When speed of speech is fast enough. ,the first word would be missing.My workround is launching a music player then adjust its volume to zero.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages? 



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Yes but one should not have to use this kind of work around if the sound drivers and hardware were designed correctly in the first place. We were promised that any driver certified by Microsoft would be checked, this clearly is not happening.

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Subject: Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA


Power saving feature of some Bluetooth headset may also cause similar
issue.My bluetooth headset just cut off a few miliseconds from the begining
of each segment of sound.When speed of speech is fast enough. ,the first
word would be missing.My workround is launching a music player then adjust
its volume to zero.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
wrote:

what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages?




Lenron
 

I have also had to use this work around.

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Yes but one should not have to use this kind of work around if the sound
drivers and hardware were designed correctly in the first place. We were
promised that any driver certified by Microsoft would be checked, this
clearly is not happening.

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Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] FW: [nvda] New speech framework in NVDA


Power saving feature of some Bluetooth headset may also cause similar
issue.My bluetooth headset just cut off a few miliseconds from the
begining
of each segment of sound.When speed of speech is fast enough. ,the first
word would be missing.My workround is launching a music player then
adjust
its volume to zero.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
wrote:

what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages?








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On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 04:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
We were promised that any driver certified by Microsoft would be checked, this clearly is not happening.
Testing, any testing, is finite.   It is possible for things to slip by, and if the issue is as described, and occurring only when speech rate is really fast, that may have escaped the range of rate tested.

Checked is not the same as exhaustively tested each and every time.  If it were, software updates could never happen, as you cannot and do not regression test every last line of code in a hugely complex system.
 
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I don't think its with fast speech its with the start of speech after some seconds of silence. I do not have a laptop here, but relate seem to be the main offender. it seems to take time to open a sound channel, whereas there is no delay in windows 7.
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On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 04:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


We were promised that any driver certified by Microsoft would be checked,
this clearly is not happening.
Testing, any testing, is finite. It is possible for things to slip by, and if the issue is as described, and occurring only when speech rate is really fast, that may have escaped the range of rate tested.

Checked is not the same as exhaustively tested each and every time. If it were, software updates could never happen, as you cannot and do not regression test every last line of code in a hugely complex system.

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Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

~ Richard Dehmel


Howard <howard.lee.harkness@...>
 

I did a similar thing by running a metronome app set to 2 second beats, and volume set as low as it would go. Note that this will run the battery in your B T headset down a bit faster.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Larry Wang <larry.wang.801@...> wrote:
Power saving feature of some Bluetooth headset may also cause similar issue.My bluetooth headset just cut off a few miliseconds from the begining of each segment of sound.When speed of speech is fast enough. ,the first word would be missing.My workround is launching a music player then adjust its volume to zero.

On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:12 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
what is speech refactor and what will it do? what are its advantages? 





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