Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled


Tage Johansson
 

Hi!
I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
Any solutions?
Tage


Rui Fontes
 

You can go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures and in the Text review cathegory remove the entries regarding NumPad1 and NumPad7...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
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Às 12:49 de 06/08/2018, Tage Johansson escreveu:

Hi!
I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
Any solutions?
Tage


Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Tage,

In NVDA's Input Gestures dialog, you can adjust keystrokes.

Press NVDA+n, then P for preferences, then N for Input Gestures.

In the "Object Navigation" and "Text Review" sections, you should find most of the keys you need.

Numpad7 (which is Home on a regular desktop keyboard) is used in:
"Move to top line in review"
"Move to previous line in review"
and
"Switch to next review mode"

Numpad1, which is End for me, is used in:
"Move to start of line in review",
"Move to previous character in review",
and
"Switch to previous review mode"

If you open the commands quick reference from the help menu- NVDA+n, then H then it's Q or the second item down, has all the keystrokes, so you can search for, for instance "numpad1" or "numpad7".

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Tage Johansson <frans.tage@...> wrote:
Hi!
I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
Any solutions?
Tage




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Gene
 

You can do that if you want to have problems using screen review or object navigation.  Even if you do this, does that mean the function keys are returned to their free state?  I don't know.  Maybe they just won't do anything. 
 
But before degrading NVDA when it may well not be necessary, what kind of laptop are you using?  Laptops that don't have home and end keys usually have some combination that will work as home and end.  I don't know what that combination is most likely to be, but it may be the fn key and this or that key used in combination.  Others will very likely have suggestions to try or may be able to check documentation. 
 
Also, are you completely sure there is no home and end key?  My laptop has small home and end keys that don't look anything like standard computer keys in a horizontal row of very small keys that are above the main keyboard.  Once, a computer user discussed this question on a list I'm on and, after considerable discussion, she found that the home and end keys were present in an interface more or less as I described.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

You can go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures and in the Text
review cathegory remove the entries regarding NumPad1 and NumPad7...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
N
Às 12:49 de 06/08/2018, Tage Johansson escreveu:
> Hi!
> I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm
> using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of
> my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard
> layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
> Any solutions?
> Tage
>



Quentin Christensen
 

Just a small clarification, if you are using NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, then that has its own set of review cursor / object navigation keys which don't use the number pad.  Changing the desktop layout keystrokes won't have any impact on NVDA's functions while you are in laptop layout.  Note that if you do this, you want to leave the laptop layout keys for those functions, or as Gene notes, you will not be able to use those functions.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 10:13 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You can do that if you want to have problems using screen review or object navigation.  Even if you do this, does that mean the function keys are returned to their free state?  I don't know.  Maybe they just won't do anything. 
 
But before degrading NVDA when it may well not be necessary, what kind of laptop are you using?  Laptops that don't have home and end keys usually have some combination that will work as home and end.  I don't know what that combination is most likely to be, but it may be the fn key and this or that key used in combination.  Others will very likely have suggestions to try or may be able to check documentation. 
 
Also, are you completely sure there is no home and end key?  My laptop has small home and end keys that don't look anything like standard computer keys in a horizontal row of very small keys that are above the main keyboard.  Once, a computer user discussed this question on a list I'm on and, after considerable discussion, she found that the home and end keys were present in an interface more or less as I described.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disable desktop keys when laptop mode is enabled

You can go to NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures and in the Text
review cathegory remove the entries regarding NumPad1 and NumPad7...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
N
Às 12:49 de 06/08/2018, Tage Johansson escreveu:
> Hi!
> I have a laptop with numpad but no extra home/end keys. Therefore, I'm
> using the home and end keys on the numpad. But NVDA takes ownership of
> my numpad, so I have no home and end keys. I tried to set the keyboard
> layout of NVDA to laptop, but NVDA has still ownership of my numpad.
> Any solutions?
> Tage
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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