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Thunderbird columns with object navigation


David Mellor
 

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David


Gene
 

There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA add on that makes changing the order much easier.  I don't know if it works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to wait for more information from the list about it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David




Rui Fontes
 

It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32 bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:

There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA add on that makes changing the order much easier.  I don't know if it works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation
Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.
Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?
Very many thanks,
David


 

Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be easier, I'm sure.

Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:

It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32 bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David





David Mellor
 

Hi marcio,
Could you tell me how you are currently doing it please?
David

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 August 2018 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be
easier, I'm sure.

Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:
It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32
bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA
add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it
works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to
wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message
columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,


,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird
60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and
folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same
method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David






 

The Add-On is:  

Mozilla Apps Enhancements


NVDA+H is used for rearranging columns.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 


Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Go to Addons manager and activate the Get Addons button.
In the web page open, look by Mozilla...

Rui

Às 13:24 de 16/08/2018, marcio via Groups.Io escreveu:

Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be easier, I'm sure.
Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:
It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32 bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David






 

Give Mozilla App Enhancements a try. It will mitigate your issue, but, not
answer your question.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mellor
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Firstly which version of Tbird do you run now?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mellor" <david2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation


Hi marcio,
Could you tell me how you are currently doing it please?
David


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 August 2018 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be
easier, I'm sure.

Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:
It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32
bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA
add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it
works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to
wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message
columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,


,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird
60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and
folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same
method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David






David Mellor
 

I use Outlook 2003. I have just started exploring TB 60.0, the latest
version.
Two add-ons that sound promising are Obj nav and Mozilla Apps Extender

Other observations, areas for me to explore and wishes:
Control over where Thunderbird starts, eg, Inbox
Confusion over where Thunderbird is leave the cursor in the message list
when a folder is first opened
Warning about loading remote content in messages is quite disruptive
I would like to close messages with escape. There is an add-on for that.
how to jump to messages in large lists like mail lists quickly by typing the
first few characters of the name.
Same for selecting folders
The move option on the message list apps key menu is not toward the bottom
of he list as with Outlook so it takes much longer to navigate to.
No alt text for some fields in account setup, didn't really matter.
Speech is a bit verbose when starting a new message with cntl-n
Will explore whether I can have a new email arrived tone only when something
I am likely to be interested in appears in the inbox
I will explore whether I can place interesting threads from mailing lists in
other folders in my Inbox, mixing regular and threaded modes in the same
display. I doubt it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 August 2018 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Firstly which version of Tbird do you run now?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mellor" <david2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation


Hi marcio,
Could you tell me how you are currently doing it please?
David


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 August 2018 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be
easier, I'm sure.

Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:
It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32
bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA
add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it
works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to
wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message
columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,


,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird
60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and
folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same
method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David






 

David,
You can adjust it as you like just using the object navigation and some mouse clicks simulations.
There's an article that explain how it works but as I am a brazilian guy, it's 100% in Brazilian Portuguese.
At this point if anyone knows (and can) help with this question it'll be nice.
Em 16/08/2018 10:20, David Mellor escreveu:

Hi marcio,
Could you tell me how you are currently doing it please?
David


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: 16 August 2018 13:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be
easier, I'm sure.

Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:
It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32
bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA
add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it
works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to
wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message
columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,

,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird
60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and
folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same
method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David









 

Thanks Brian!
Em 16/08/2018 10:33, Brian Vogel escreveu:

The Add-On is:  

Mozilla Apps Enhancements


NVDA+H is used for rearranging columns.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

 

 



 

Thanks Rui!
Em 16/08/2018 11:46, Rui Fontes escreveu:

Hello!

Go to Addons manager and activate the Get Addons button.
In the web page open, look by Mozilla...

Rui

�s 13:24 de 16/08/2018, marcio via Groups.Io escreveu:
Hi,
Can you tell me where I find this addon?
I know how to move Thunderbird Columns but with an addon it'll be easier, I'm sure.

Em 16/08/2018 08:31, Rui Fontes escreveu:
It is a NVDA addon, and with my version of Thunderbird, 52.9.1 (32 bits) still works to manage coluns...


Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

�s 12:05 de 16/08/2018, Gene escreveu:
There is an add on, I don't recall if it is a Thunderbird or an NVDA add on that makes changing the order much easier.� I don't know if it works with new versions, but it might save you time and trouble to wait for more information from the list about it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* David Mellor <mailto:david2@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:44 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

Hi group,
I came across this post about changing the order of mail message columns in
Thunderbird.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=,
,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,0,,20,0,780,3281531
Unfortunately I can't find the column headers anywhere on Thunderbird 60.0
using object navigation. I can move around the message list and folder list
and I've been able to drag and drop folders around using the same method.

Has anyone had any luck with accessing the message column headers with
recent Thunderbird versions please?

Very many thanks,
David










David Mellor
 

I'm happy with the technique, I just can't find the column headers.
I know they're there because they are announced by NVDA-b to read the whole
screen contents.
I've been wondering round and round the object hierarchy a few times.
The add-ons will let me sort it out. No worries.
David

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio
via Groups.Io
Sent: 17 August 2018 17:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird columns with object navigation

David,
You can adjust it as you like just using the object navigation and some
mouse clicks simulations.
There's an article that explain how it works but as I am a brazilian
guy, it's 100% in Brazilian Portuguese.
At this point if anyone knows (and can) help with this question it'll be
nice.
Em 16/08/2018 10:20, David Mellor escreveu: