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Don H #45467 Don't know when there is a bug in the alpha or beta versions of NVDA. When running either the Alpha or Beta versions I get a lot of error dings as I call them when browsing using Google Chrome. For example every time i get to a edit box I get the error ding. Sometimes just opening a web site gives me a ding. Is there some reasoning behind such dings?
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Joseph Lee #45468 Hi, This "ding" sound indicates an error that NVDA has encountered. You can't really turn this off in development snapshots (alpha and beta). Cheers, Joseph toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] nvda_snapshot_alpha or beta Don't know when there is a bug in the alpha or beta versions of NVDA. When running either the Alpha or Beta versions I get a lot of error dings as I call them when browsing using Google Chrome. For example every time i get to a edit box I get the error ding. Sometimes just opening a web site gives me a ding. Is there some reasoning behind such dings?
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Quentin Christensen #45469 Hi Don, As Joseph mentioned, the "ding" indicates that NVDA encountered an error which it wrote to its log. It doesn't necessarily mean that you can't do whatever you were trying to do - often NVDA itself hits the error, then used a workaround, so from a user point of view, everything may still work normally. The only difference is that in the alpha and beta builds, you get a ding, whereas in the stable release you don't and the error just writes quietly to the log. The idea is that developers can use it to find when errors are being generated when they are working on something. There is currently no setting to disable this, however if you are encountering a particular error that you can share how to replicate, do please report it so that we can endeavour to resolve it. Kind regards Quentin. toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote: Don't know when there is a bug in the alpha or beta versions of NVDA. When running either the Alpha or Beta versions I get a lot of error dings as I call them when browsing using Google Chrome. For example every time i get to a edit box I get the error ding. Sometimes just opening a web site gives me a ding. Is there some reasoning behind such dings? -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Kwork #45473 That ding drives me crazy, and is actually a reason I quit using betas. Having to wait just a bit longer for a new or fixed feature for me is a fair trade off for not having to deal with unquenchable dings. If there was an on/off checkbox, that would become moot. Personal preference only Travis toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Christensen To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda_snapshot_alpha or beta Hi Don, As Joseph mentioned, the "ding" indicates that NVDA encountered an error which it wrote to its log. It doesn't necessarily mean that you can't do whatever you were trying to do - often NVDA itself hits the error, then used a workaround, so from a user point of view, everything may still work normally. The only difference is that in the alpha and beta builds, you get a ding, whereas in the stable release you don't and the error just writes quietly to the log. The idea is that developers can use it to find when errors are being generated when they are working on something. There is currently no setting to disable this, however if you are encountering a particular error that you can share how to replicate, do please report it so that we can endeavour to resolve it. Kind regards Quentin. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote: Don't know when there is a bug in the alpha or beta versions of NVDA. When running either the Alpha or Beta versions I get a lot of error dings as I call them when browsing using Google Chrome. For example every time i get to a edit box I get the error ding. Sometimes just opening a web site gives me a ding. Is there some reasoning behind such dings? -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Brian's Mail list account #45478 What about shoving a silent wav into the folder called the error.wav? Ok not a good idea as you really do want to report errors, but I was just mentioning a possible work around. In the dev list the other day, in response to Micks question about errors in edit boxes I published some log fragments showing the errors generated in the beta branch during explorer file search. I have seen no reply, but since nothing bad actually happened I'd suggest that the errors are mostly benign, but could be a good way to track down some based on them which might be more serious. I think people should perhaps think this way. Did these errors cause a real issue? If yes then go to gather and start a new issue. If its just another version of an existing one, somebody will come along and see that and probably add it to the old issue and close the new one. If it does not give any problems to the usage, then it can be just ignored. it can as the poster said, though be annoying if every keystroke generates the noise. This also happens in Word sometimes, mainly spellchecking, but the error is quite obviously merely the triggering of the error that does not matter at all. If you really do want to help find bugs then you do need to live with errors. maybe the error sound could be a little quieter? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda_snapshot_alpha or beta Hi, This "ding" sound indicates an error that NVDA has encountered. You can't really turn this off in development snapshots (alpha and beta). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] nvda_snapshot_alpha or beta Don't know when there is a bug in the alpha or beta versions of NVDA. When running either the Alpha or Beta versions I get a lot of error dings as I call them when browsing using Google Chrome. For example every time i get to a edit box I get the error ding. Sometimes just opening a web site gives me a ding. Is there some reasoning behind such dings?
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Brian's Mail list account #45479 The point is though, if you use snaps, then you need to ask yourselves why? Ideally to find problems and report them. if this is not what you want to do then fine, use the stable. if on the other hand you do need a new feature now, I'm sure one might be able to find a work around for the ding, but I tend to just ignore it if its in a context I've had for ages and reported already, and its been declared benign. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kwork" <istherelife@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 5:23 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda_snapshot_alpha or beta That ding drives me crazy, and is actually a reason I quit using betas. Having to wait just a bit longer for a new or fixed feature for me is a fair trade off for not having to deal with unquenchable dings. If there was an on/off checkbox, that would become moot. Personal preference only Travis ----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Christensen To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda_snapshot_alpha or beta Hi Don, As Joseph mentioned, the "ding" indicates that NVDA encountered an error which it wrote to its log. It doesn't necessarily mean that you can't do whatever you were trying to do - often NVDA itself hits the error, then used a workaround, so from a user point of view, everything may still work normally. The only difference is that in the alpha and beta builds, you get a ding, whereas in the stable release you don't and the error just writes quietly to the log. The idea is that developers can use it to find when errors are being generated when they are working on something. There is currently no setting to disable this, however if you are encountering a particular error that you can share how to replicate, do please report it so that we can endeavour to resolve it. Kind regards Quentin. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote: Don't know when there is a bug in the alpha or beta versions of NVDA. When running either the Alpha or Beta versions I get a lot of error dings as I call them when browsing using Google Chrome. For example every time i get to a edit box I get the error ding. Sometimes just opening a web site gives me a ding. Is there some reasoning behind such dings? -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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