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Akshaya Choudhary
What are the most useful add-ons for you people?
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Gene
I don't use many add ons because the way I use my
computer, I don't benefit from most of them. But the two I use regularly
and I consider important enough that they shouldn't be add ons is Clip Speak,
which announces copy and past when you copy to and past from the clipboard, and
the system tray dialog add on. The system tray dialog has been a standard
part of screen-readers since Windows 2008. It should be included in NVDA
itself but it isn't.
As for Clipp Speak, I don't know if there is a new
version that solves these problems. the original version caused some
problems in Word and it caused a problem in the Youtube downloader I use even
though I wasn't directly using the add on. So, if you see strange problems
you didn't have before, even if they seem unrelated to anything you would expect
the add on to cause, try disabling them and see if the problem
disappears.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
Hello,
My top 12 addOns are: Application Dictionary Golden cursor IdentNav Input lock Instant translate Notepad++ Outlook enhanced Remote support SentenceNav Sonos for Sonos desktop Speech history Total Commander enhanced
Best regards, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
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Walker, Michael E
Ralf, when you list Remote Support, is that the same as NVDA Remote? If not, what does Remote Support do? Thanks.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons
Hello,
My top 12 addOns are: Application Dictionary Golden cursor IdentNav Input lock Instant translate Notepad++ Outlook enhanced Remote support SentenceNav Sonos for Sonos desktop Speech history Total Commander enhanced
Best regards, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
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Steve Nomer
Ralph, where do you obtain the Sonos addOn? Thanks!
Steve On 8/21/2018 9:37 AM, Ralf Kefferpuetz
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Gary Bowers
Ralph - Thanks for your list. Where can I see Outlook enhanced?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Hello, My top 12 addOns are: Application Dictionary Golden cursor IdentNav Input lock Instant translate Notepad++ Outlook enhanced Remote support SentenceNav Sonos for Sonos desktop Speech history Total Commander enhanced Best regards, Ralf From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 15:37 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Favourite add-ons What are the most useful add-ons for you people? -- Regards, Sociohack |
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
Yes, that’s the same…
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Walker, Michael E
Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 16:40 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons
Ralf, when you list Remote Support, is that the same as NVDA Remote? If not, what does Remote Support do? Thanks.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Hello,
My top 12 addOns are: Application Dictionary Golden cursor IdentNav Input lock Instant translate Notepad++ Outlook enhanced Remote support SentenceNav Sonos for Sonos desktop Speech history Total Commander enhanced
Best regards, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
Hi Steve,
It is one of my developed addons. You can get it here: https://github.com/Novalis7747/sonos/raw/master/sonos-1.1.nvda-addon
cheers, Ralf
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nomer
Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 16:44 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons
Ralph, where do you obtain the Sonos addOn? Thanks!
Steve
On 8/21/2018 9:37 AM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
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Ralf Kefferpuetz
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It is one of my developed addons. You can get it here: https://github.com/Novalis7747/Outlook-enhanced/raw/master/outlook-0.9.nvda-addon cheers, Ralf -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Bowers Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 18:30 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Ralph - Thanks for your list. Where can I see Outlook enhanced? Gary -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Hello, My top 12 addOns are: Application Dictionary Golden cursor IdentNav Input lock Instant translate Notepad++ Outlook enhanced Remote support SentenceNav Sonos for Sonos desktop Speech history Total Commander enhanced Best regards, Ralf From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 15:37 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Favourite add-ons What are the most useful add-ons for you people? -- Regards, Sociohack |
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Steve Nomer
Ralph, what a terrific addOn! Thanks so much for developing this one!
Steve On 8/21/2018 1:43 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz
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Brian's Mail list account
Well, for me its application dictionary, when I get sighties around, focus highlight, I do like the dumb version of the cut and paste speak add on, Resource monitor, Goldwave, Extended Winamp
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Golden cursor when you get a dodgy program, There are others I use from time to time, like 3D sound schemes. The Speech player in Espeak, Pico synth Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sociohack AC" <acsociopath@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 2:37 PM Subject: [nvda] Favourite add-ons What are the most useful add-ons for you people? -- Regards, Sociohack |
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Yes I reluctantly removed clipspeak as it caused memory issues for Word and had issues with some web content as well.
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I am not sure about systray list as for me that works well natively, but I keep the add on around. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons I don't use many add ons because the way I use my computer, I don't benefit from most of them. But the two I use regularly and I consider important enough that they shouldn't be add ons is Clip Speak, which announces copy and past when you copy to and past from the clipboard, and the system tray dialog add on. The system tray dialog has been a standard part of screen-readers since Windows 2008. It should be included in NVDA itself but it isn't. As for Clipp Speak, I don't know if there is a new version that solves these problems. the original version caused some problems in Word and it caused a problem in the Youtube downloader I use even though I wasn't directly using the add on. So, if you see strange problems you didn't have before, even if they seem unrelated to anything you would expect the add on to cause, try disabling them and see if the problem disappears. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sociohack AC Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 8:37 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Favourite add-ons What are the most useful add-ons for you people? -- Regards, Sociohack |
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Gary Bowers
Thanks, Ralf. I'm anxious to try this one.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Hi Gary, It is one of my developed addons. You can get it here: https://github.com/Novalis7747/Outlook-enhanced/raw/master/outlook-0.9.nvda-addon cheers, Ralf -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Bowers Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 18:30 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Ralph - Thanks for your list. Where can I see Outlook enhanced? Gary -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Hello, My top 12 addOns are: Application Dictionary Golden cursor IdentNav Input lock Instant translate Notepad++ Outlook enhanced Remote support SentenceNav Sonos for Sonos desktop Speech history Total Commander enhanced Best regards, Ralf From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC Sent: Dienstag, 21. August 2018 15:37 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Favourite add-ons What are the most useful add-ons for you people? -- Regards, Sociohack |
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my favorite and the one only addon which i use is nvda remote. but i did not find notepad plus plus addon in the website of nvda addons. what this addon do exactly? On 8/22/18, Gary Bowers <gdbowers@...> wrote:
Thanks, Ralf. I'm anxious to try this one. --
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Hmmm sociohack, interesting handle.
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For me windows 10 apps, the addon updater once stable, iffinterpreters, vlc, and a few others are good. Ofcause it depends on what you have loaded. For example emoticons is fine, but to be honest, I have a lot of program spaciffic ones, vlc, dropbox, winamp, teamtalk, things like that. On 8/22/2018 1:37 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
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Brian's Mail list account
Yes a sore point since I have had no luck restoring dropbox dialogue access on either of my windows 7 machines since I removed Avast. It is as if the api for their preferences, share and log in screens has been deleted.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons Hmmm sociohack, interesting handle. |
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Clare Page <clare.page@...>
Hi! I find the Clipspeak add-on very useful, because without it there is no announcement of when copying and cutting and pasting has been done; As for the system tray add-on, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but why do you need this add-on, and consider it as essential, when the system tray is perfectly usable without it? I’m not criticizing, just curious as to why you consider it a necessary add-on and think it should be part of NVDA, when NVDA can easily read the system tray on its own? Bye for now! From Clare
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: mardi 21 août 2018 16:04 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Favourite add-ons
I don't use many add ons because the way I use my computer, I don't benefit from most of them. But the two I use regularly and I consider important enough that they shouldn't be add ons is Clip Speak, which announces copy and past when you copy to and past from the clipboard, and the system tray dialog add on. The system tray dialog has been a standard part of screen-readers since Windows 2008. It should be included in NVDA itself but it isn't.
As for Clipp Speak, I don't know if there is a new version that solves these problems. the original version caused some problems in Word and it caused a problem in the Youtube downloader I use even though I wasn't directly using the add on. So, if you see strange problems you didn't have before, even if they seem unrelated to anything you would expect the add on to cause, try disabling them and see if the problem disappears.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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Christian Schoepplein
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what does the Notepad++ plugin do in detail and where can I get it? IIRC I did not see it on the regular addon page... Cheers and TIA, Schoepp On Tue, August 21, 2018 4:37 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
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Gene
This message is rather long. I hope you find
it interesting and provocative of thought.
Rarely, one of the icons doesn't work as expect in
the system tray. I don't remember what now, but I couldn't do something in
the system tray I should have been able to do but I could in the system
tray dialog.
Aside from that, while it wouldn't be a major
problem or inconvenience to accustom myself to the system tray interface for
regular use, why should I have to? The dialog has been standard in
screen-readers since Windows 98. Why wasn't it included in NVDA? As
far as I know, this was for ideological reasons, and ideology defeated common
sense and a reasonable accomodation to something that had been available for so
long that it is now the standard.
the reason there was a separate system tray dialog
in the first place is that the system tray wasn't accessible in Windows
98. And when the system tray dialog was instituted, a lot of people were
still using Windows 95, where the system tray was also inaccessible. So
the dialog started as a way to use an inaccessible feature, not as
a redundancy.
The ideological principle is that screen-readers
should never unless really necessary, present anything that isn't presented to
the sighted user in a different format or manner or present any additional
information.
While I generally agree with this approach,
ideology, strictly adhered to to the point of absurdity, always fails to deal
with reality or common sense.
New users to NVDA should not have to wait until
they, maybe, learn about add ons to have a feature that has been standard in
screen-readers for twenty years.
And it was partly the same ideological rigidity
that caused the copy and paste announcements not to be heard in NVDA and I
object for the same reasons. At least make the add ons part of the
installation if they aren't added to the code. Window-eyes for years, had
add ons as part of the installation of the program. This is nothing
radical.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi! I find the Clipspeak add-on very useful, because without it there is no announcement of when copying and cutting and pasting has been done; As for the system tray add-on, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but why do you need this add-on, and consider it as essential, when the system tray is perfectly usable without it? I’m not criticizing, just curious as to why you consider it a necessary add-on and think it should be part of NVDA, when NVDA can easily read the system tray on its own? Bye for now! From Clare
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nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
I don't use many add ons because the way I use my computer, I don't benefit from most of them. But the two I use regularly and I consider important enough that they shouldn't be add ons is Clip Speak, which announces copy and past when you copy to and past from the clipboard, and the system tray dialog add on. The system tray dialog has been a standard part of screen-readers since Windows 2008. It should be included in NVDA itself but it isn't.
As for Clipp Speak, I don't know if there is a new version that solves these problems. the original version caused some problems in Word and it caused a problem in the Youtube downloader I use even though I wasn't directly using the add on. So, if you see strange problems you didn't have before, even if they seem unrelated to anything you would expect the add on to cause, try disabling them and see if the problem disappears.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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Gene
Here is a correction to my last message.
I said that one reason that copy, cut and paste
aren't announced is the ideological one I discussed. That may be
incorrect. I read two discussions of this when users requested the feature
that are available on Ghithub. I didn't see the ideological reason
given. Instead, the mistaken belief was expressed that it can't be known
reliably except in certain cases, when copying, pasting, and cutting
occur. this is factually incorrect yet it was believed by the developers
for most of the years NVDA has been under development. I don't know what
the developers believe now.
The argument was that NVDA would have to be
programmed to announce copy, paste, and cut when the commands were given without
any knowledge of whether the actions were actually taken. So the
screen-reader would give false information if something prevented the operations
from occurring.
As the developer of the add on has demonstrated and
as I did in my tests, this belief is incorrect and I strongly believe that since
the belief has been disproven, that the feature should either be placed in code
or that the add on be distributed and active as part of the installation.
I don't care which solution would be adopted.
Gene
----- original Message ----- This message is rather long. I hope you find
it interesting and provocative of thought.
Rarely, one of the icons doesn't work as expect in
the system tray. I don't remember what now, but I couldn't do something in
the system tray I should have been able to do but I could in the system
tray dialog.
Aside from that, while it wouldn't be a major
problem or inconvenience to accustom myself to the system tray interface for
regular use, why should I have to? The dialog has been standard in
screen-readers since Windows 98. Why wasn't it included in NVDA? As
far as I know, this was for ideological reasons, and ideology defeated common
sense and a reasonable accomodation to something that had been available for so
long that it is now the standard.
the reason there was a separate system tray dialog
in the first place is that the system tray wasn't accessible in Windows
98. And when the system tray dialog was instituted, a lot of people were
still using Windows 95, where the system tray was also inaccessible. So
the dialog started as a way to use an inaccessible feature, not as
a redundancy.
The ideological principle is that screen-readers
should never unless really necessary, present anything that isn't presented to
the sighted user in a different format or manner or present any additional
information.
While I generally agree with this approach,
ideology, strictly adhered to to the point of absurdity, always fails to deal
with reality or common sense.
New users to NVDA should not have to wait until
they, maybe, learn about add ons to have a feature that has been standard in
screen-readers for twenty years.
And it was partly the same ideological rigidity
that caused the copy and paste announcements not to be heard in NVDA and I
object for the same reasons. At least make the add ons part of the
installation if they aren't added to the code. Window-eyes for years, had
add ons as part of the installation of the program. This is nothing
radical.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Hi! I find the Clipspeak add-on very useful, because without it there is no announcement of when copying and cutting and pasting has been done; As for the system tray add-on, I hope you don’t mind me asking, but why do you need this add-on, and consider it as essential, when the system tray is perfectly usable without it? I’m not criticizing, just curious as to why you consider it a necessary add-on and think it should be part of NVDA, when NVDA can easily read the system tray on its own? Bye for now! From Clare
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
I don't use many add ons because the way I use my computer, I don't benefit from most of them. But the two I use regularly and I consider important enough that they shouldn't be add ons is Clip Speak, which announces copy and past when you copy to and past from the clipboard, and the system tray dialog add on. The system tray dialog has been a standard part of screen-readers since Windows 2008. It should be included in NVDA itself but it isn't.
As for Clipp Speak, I don't know if there is a new version that solves these problems. the original version caused some problems in Word and it caused a problem in the Youtube downloader I use even though I wasn't directly using the add on. So, if you see strange problems you didn't have before, even if they seem unrelated to anything you would expect the add on to cause, try disabling them and see if the problem disappears.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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