nvda@nvda.groups.io | problem with the newest chrome

P. Otter

#7426

hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter

Artin Dekker

#7427

I have this problum whit all links in Chrome.

Op 18-8-2016 om 18:24 schreef P. Otter:

Show quoted text

hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter

P. Otter

#7428

yes, it dramaticaly bad!

but what can we do to solve this problem?

cheers

paul otter

Op 18-8-2016 om 23:15 schreef Artin Dekker:

Show quoted text

I have this problum whit all links in Chrome.

Op 18-8-2016 om 18:24 schreef P. Otter:
hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter

Kevin Chao

#7430

1. Which version of CHrome are you running?

2. Please use "Report an issue..." in Help menu.

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:

yes, it dramaticaly bad!

but what can we do to solve this problem?

cheers

paul otter

Op 18-8-2016 om 23:15 schreef Artin Dekker:
> I have this problum whit all links in Chrome.
>
> Op 18-8-2016 om 18:24 schreef P. Otter:
>> hello all,
>>
>> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>>
>> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming
>> up, but the link will not be spoken.
>>
>> what's wrong?
>>
>> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>>
>> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>>
>> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
>> problems like this in chrome?
>>
>> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>>
>> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search
>> results.
>>
>> i don't understand why this is changed.
>>
>> before chrome was working perfectly!
>>
>> thanks in advance.
>>
>> paul otter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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#7436

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all you can do is tell  The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and  back track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up, but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter

Gene

#7437

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Gene

#7438

I said you can't stop chrome updating but evidently you can. If you set UAc to its highest level, you can say no when it asks you to allow Chrome to update. You will have to do this at some point after you start Chrome, probably every time you start it. However, it may not be worth the risk. Some Windows users, particularly of Windows 10 though evidently now and then in earlier versions, have had a problem where the yes button disappears from UAC. If you set UAC to 100, this the results of the problem are evidently far more serious than if they are set at the default level. Also, it isn't a good idea to run old versions of browsers for security reasons.

It would be better to use a different browser such as Firefox until this problem is resolved. And, since it may be that Chrome breaks things in upgrades related to accessibility more than Firefox, using Firefox in general might be preferred.

However, I don't know what problem you are describing. I am using the latest release version of Chrome 52.x, and I have no problem working with or seeing everything in Google searches. Are you using the nonbeta program or a beta?

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:01 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Artin Dekker

#7440

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516

Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen

Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

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Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

P. Otter

#7443

hello, it is the first option you mention.

when i do a google search i don't see the links.

and the most strange in this situation is, i see the rule that you find under the link, i can read it.

when i go with the arrow up, therw where i supose the link, i press enter, the link is working as usual!

so, the link is there, only not read by nvda.

i don't know what that is.

cheers
paul otter

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:01 schreef Gene:

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Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

P. Otter

#7444

ok, but when you tell me that you have no problem to see the links, i think there is something else wrong.

but i don't know what it is.

when i search on google, there are the results but the links will not be spoken.

but they are stil there.

when i go to a result, i press one time uparrow, there where i know there is the place of the link and i press enter, the link will open as usual.

but i don't hear or read the link it self.

cheers

paul otter

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:40 schreef Gene:

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I said you can't stop chrome updating but evidently you can. If you set UAc to its highest level, you can say no when it asks you to allow Chrome to update. You will have to do this at some point after you start Chrome, probably every time you start it. However, it may not be worth the risk. Some Windows users, particularly of Windows 10 though evidently now and then in earlier versions, have had a problem where the yes button disappears from UAC. If you set UAC to 100, this the results of the problem are evidently far more serious than if they are set at the default level. Also, it isn't a good idea to run old versions of browsers for security reasons.

It would be better to use a different browser such as Firefox until this problem is resolved. And, since it may be that Chrome breaks things in upgrades related to accessibility more than Firefox, using Firefox in general might be preferred.

However, I don't know what problem you are describing. I am using the latest release version of Chrome 52.x, and I have no problem working with or seeing everything in Google searches. Are you using the nonbeta program or a beta?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:01 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

P. Otter

#7445

it is right what you write!

no link will be displayed in chrome only in the own settings of chrome!

paul otter

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:50 schreef Artin Dekker:

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If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516
Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen
Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Gene

#7446

Then this is evidently not an accessibility issue and I suspect it isn't a general problem with Chrome. A sighted person probably wouldn't see links either and an error message is generated by Chrome, something that would not happen if this were an accessibility issue. Try uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome. You may have gotten a bad update.

Also, since only one other person has reported an unclear problem with Chrome and certain links, that further supports the possibility that this is not a general Chrome problem.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516

Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen

Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Gene

#7447

That is a different problem than the other person is having and this is an example of why, when people report problems, details should be given. if both people had provided details, the two problems could have been addressed as different problems from the outset and more specific help might have been given for each problem.

I don't know what is causing the problem of links not being read but still functioning. you could try reinstalling Chrome. I have no idea if that would help.

Show quoted text

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:55 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

hello, it is the first option you mention.

when i do a google search i don't see the links.

and the most strange in this situation is, i see the rule that you find under the link, i can read it.

when i go with the arrow up, therw where i supose the link, i press enter, the link is working as usual!

so, the link is there, only not read by nvda.

i don't know what that is.

cheers
paul otter

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Gene

#7448

please clarify. Are you saying no link on Google results pages or no link on any pages. Also, you don't report an error message as the other person does. We don't know when this error message occurs. What action, if any, has been taken that causes it.

Based on your previous messages, I thought these were two separate problems. they may be. But again, it is not clear if your problem just occurs on Google results pages or in general. Clarity and details are important when trying to understand and solve problems.

I suspect these problems are two specifically technical to be addressed effectively on this list. If reinstalling Chrome doesn't help, you might get better help in some sort of Chrome user forum. Perhaps there is one on the Chrome site or some other place such as Bleeping computer.

Gene

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: P. Otter

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 7:07 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

it is right what you write!

no link will be displayed in chrome only in the own settings of chrome!

paul otter

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:50 schreef Artin Dekker:

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516
Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen
Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

P. Otter

#7449

hi, in this list i read difference, one has the same problms as me, other tells me he has no problem at all with chrome.

very strange.

i've allready chrome reinstalled with the same problem as result.

it's a pitty!

cheers

paul otter

Op 19-8-2016 om 14:11 schreef Gene:

Show quoted text

Then this is evidently not an accessibility issue and I suspect it isn't a general problem with Chrome. A sighted person probably wouldn't see links either and an error message is generated by Chrome, something that would not happen if this were an accessibility issue. Try uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome. You may have gotten a bad update.

Also, since only one other person has reported an unclear problem with Chrome and certain links, that further supports the possibility that this is not a general Chrome problem.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516
Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen
Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Artin Dekker

#7450

The log is the NVDA log. In the nvda-translations list is a message about chrome, http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda-translations/Google-Chrome-support-is-broken-20163-should-alert-users-on-changest2t.

Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:11 schreef Gene:

Show quoted text

Then this is evidently not an accessibility issue and I suspect it isn't a general problem with Chrome. A sighted person probably wouldn't see links either and an error message is generated by Chrome, something that would not happen if this were an accessibility issue. Try uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome. You may have gotten a bad update.

Also, since only one other person has reported an unclear problem with Chrome and certain links, that further supports the possibility that this is not a general Chrome problem.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516
Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen
Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Gene

#7451

Then these problems may be Chrome problems. I won't comment further and I'll wait to see what others may say.

Gene

Show quoted text

----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 7:41 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

The log is the NVDA log. In the nvda-translations list is a message about chrome, http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda-translations/Google-Chrome-support-is-broken-20163-should-alert-users-on-changest2t.

Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
https://win10-nl.groups.io/g/algemeen

Op 19-8-2016 om 13:11 schreef Gene:

Then this is evidently not an accessibility issue and I suspect it isn't a general problem with Chrome. A sighted person probably wouldn't see links either and an error message is generated by Chrome, something that would not happen if this were an accessibility issue. Try uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome. You may have gotten a bad update.

Also, since only one other person has reported an unclear problem with Chrome and certain links, that further supports the possibility that this is not a general Chrome problem.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516
Artin Dekker
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Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Kevin Chao

#7453

1. What version of Chrome?
2. Please use "report an issue...'" in help menu.

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 6:06 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Then these problems may be Chrome problems. I won't comment further and I'll wait to see what others may say.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 7:41 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

The log is the NVDA log. In the nvda-translations list is a message about chrome, http://www.freelists.org/post/nvda-translations/Google-Chrome-support-is-broken-20163-should-alert-users-on-changest2t.
Artin Dekker
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Op 19-8-2016 om 13:11 schreef Gene:
Then this is evidently not an accessibility issue and I suspect it isn't a general problem with Chrome. A sighted person probably wouldn't see links either and an error message is generated by Chrome, something that would not happen if this were an accessibility issue. Try uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome. You may have gotten a bad update.

Also, since only one other person has reported an unclear problem with Chrome and certain links, that further supports the possibility that this is not a general Chrome problem.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Artin Dekker

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link, not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1" IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft" keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true" IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png" IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img" IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1" IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0" keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0" isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="1" >Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516
Artin Dekker
Beheerder win10-nl
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Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it. Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem. It isn't clear to me what the problem is. Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

> hello all,
>
> i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.
>
> when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
> but the link will not be spoken.
>
> what's wrong?
>
> i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.
>
> when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.
>
> what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
> problems like this in chrome?
>
> i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.
>
> the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.
>
> i don't understand why this is changed.
>
> before chrome was working perfectly!
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> paul otter
>
>
>
>
>

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>

#7454

I seem to recall, that Chrome has some versions which do not update themselves. At any rate it should be possible to stop it. I did this for Drive for a while till they fixed that log in focus issue a few months back, but have forgotten how I did it now.
I steer clear of software  that updates itself for no reason as it could upset data limits and costs via mobile dongles if this is allowed to occur right across the board. Certainly there seems to be a way to stop this in Windows 10 now by invoking that you are connected by a metered connection.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it.  Use Firefox for sites where you have this problem.  It isn't clear to me what the problem is.  Is the problem that when you do a search such as a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the results showing where the result leads?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell  The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues and  back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will coming up,
but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have search results.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>

#7455

So its setting the end before the start, not a good move that!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Artin Dekker" <artindekker@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome


If I have a link in Chrome NVDA says blank. This happens at every link,
not only in search results. The log is:

ERROR - XMLFormatting.XMLTextParser.parse (12:46:30):
XML: <control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924"
controlIdentifier_ID="-5026" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1"
isHidden="0" _childcount="22" _childcontrolcount="22" _indexInParent="0"
_parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true"
IAccessible2::attribute_tag="#document" IAccessible2::state_1024="1"
IAccessible::role="15" IAccessible::state_1048576="1"
IAccessible::state_64="1" keyboardShortcut="" name="Microsoft – Official
Home Page" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924"
controlIdentifier_ID="-5027" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="0" isBlock="1"
isHidden="0" _childcount="5" _childcontrolcount="4" _indexInParent="0"
_parentChildCount="22" IAccessible2::attribute_class="shell-header
shell-responsive global-sticky mobile-view"
IAccessible2::attribute_display="block"
IAccessible2::attribute_id="shell-header"
IAccessible2::attribute_tag="div"
IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="banner" IAccessible2::state_1024="1"
IAccessible::role="1043" keyboardShortcut="" ><control
controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924" controlIdentifier_ID="-5031"
_startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1" isHidden="0" _childcount="1"
_childcontrolcount="1" _indexInParent="0" _parentChildCount="5"
IAccessible2::attribute_display="block"
IAccessible2::attribute_id="srv_shellHeaderMicrosoftLogo"
IAccessible2::attribute_tag="a" IAccessible2::state_1024="1"
IAccessible::role="30" IAccessible::state_1048576="1"
IAccessible::state_4194304="1" IAccessible::state_8388608="1"
IAccessibleAction_Gaan naar="0" description="Microsoft"
keyboardShortcut="" ><control controlIdentifier_docHandle="1836924"
controlIdentifier_ID="-5035" _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="1"
isHidden="0" _childcount="1" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0"
_parentChildCount="1" IAccessible2::attribute_display="block"
IAccessible2::attribute_explicit-name="true"
IAccessible2::attribute_src="https://assets.onestore.ms/cdnfiles/onestorerolling-1608-09000/shell/v3/images/logo/microsoft.png"
IAccessible2::attribute_tag="img"
IAccessible2::attribute_xml-roles="img" IAccessible2::state_1024="1"
IAccessible::role="40" IAccessible::state_4194304="1"
IAccessible::state_64="1" IAccessibleAction_klikken="0"
keyboardShortcut="" ><text _startOfNode="1" _endOfNode="1" isBlock="0"
isHidden="0" _childcount="0" _childcontrolcount="0" _indexInParent="0"
_parentChildCount="1"
Microsoft</text></control></control></control></control>Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "XMLFormatting.pyc", line 60, in parse
ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 1516


Artin Dekker
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Op 19-8-2016 om 12:01 schreef Gene:
Chrome automatically updates itself and the user can't stop it.  Use
Firefox for sites where you have this problem.  It isn't clear to me
what the problem is.  Is the problem that when you do a search such as
a google search, you don't see the links in the results displayed as
clickable links or you don't see the address of the sites in the
results showing where the result leads?
Gene
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*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 3:31 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome

One of the things I soon learned was to keep archives of older
versions of
software so one could back track if things got broken. For the moment all
you can do is tell  The Chrome team and nvda team about any issues
and  back
track to the earlier viersion until its been fixed.
 Brian

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From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@... <mailto:pam.otter@...>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] problem with the newest chrome


hello all,

i've a problem with the newest version of chrome.

when i type a search string for example nvda the results will comingup,
but the link will not be spoken.

what's wrong?

i've allso an older version, but that's a portable version.

when i open this version the results will be spoken allso the links.

what can i do to solve this problem and are there more people who has
problems like this in chrome?

i was just glad that i could use chrome in nvda.

the same problem comes up when i open youtube after i have searchresults.

i don't understand why this is changed.

before chrome was working perfectly!

thanks in advance.

paul otter