Get a hosts file, Brian. That's likely the most effective way. On 8/29/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: Was security any better, really? I went to Waterfox and find it far faster than firefox and navigational sounds still works. However some web sites are
getting very crafty over add blockers, like File hippo refusing to let you get some things if its on. I often wonder if it might be possible for a browser to not tell the incoming stream of rubbish from the ad provider that
its just consigning the content to the bin. Surely it has to be possible to
redirect content from another server to another place whether it be a different tab or just nowhere? Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kwork" <istherelife@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Can't select words using latest stable versions Firefox,
NVDA
Hey, Jackie, I certainly hear you. I was using a few legacy add-ons when we all needed to upgrade to FF Quantum, so there was a bit of virtual kicking and screaming as I made the transition. I ultimately determined that security was worth the price.
There is certainly pain with losing a favorite add-on though.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 5:01 PM, Jackie wrote:
Hey Travis, I'd forgotten about portable ff! Thanks for the reminder! Indeed, that worked. So I decided to paw thru what few FF addons I had installed, & of course it had to be my favorite screen capture tool! @#$%! So something in the last update of ff proved incompatible w/Nimbus Screen Capture. O, well--I can just as easily use Screen Grab, I guess. I sure hate it like bloody double-hockey-stick when that happens, though. Man all these addons can really cause problems when they want to!
Thanks again for the reminder about portable ff. & editing w/ff will be a lot easier again. That's particularly true as I use GMail on the web & not an email client. That was getting tedious, & past time to get fixed.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie,
Here's one thing I thought of trying. This should tell us if your Firefox update might have corrupted things somehow.
Grab the portable version of Firefox:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
It's version 62.0.2, the latest right now, and choose where you want it on your computer.
When done, open it up and see if you can select text normally, or if you're still having trouble. If things are normal, your desktop installation may have corrupted, and you might have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox. If things are still not working properly with the portable edition, you may have to do the same uninstalling/reinstalling, but this time with NVDA.
Another idea is to disable all NVDA and/or Firefox add-ons and extensions and see if something there may be causing troubles. If things work after that, try enabling things one at a time, and one of them will likely break Firefox selection for you, but you'll know what the culprit is this time.
Hopefully something will work.
I just tested things again with NVDA 2018.2, Windows 10 and Firefox 61.0.2, both 64-bit, and all worked as expected.
Good luck,
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:39 PM, Jackie wrote:
Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try
at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Was security any better, really? I went to Waterfox and find it far faster than firefox and navigational sounds still works. However some web sites are getting very crafty over add blockers, like File hippo refusing to let you get some things if its on. I often wonder if it might be possible for a browser to not tell the incoming stream of rubbish from the ad provider that its just consigning the content to the bin. Surely it has to be possible to redirect content from another server to another place whether it be a different tab or just nowhere? Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Kwork" <istherelife@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 3:24 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Can't select words using latest stable versions Firefox, NVDA Hey, Jackie, I certainly hear you. I was using a few legacy add-ons when we all needed to upgrade to FF Quantum, so there was a bit of virtual kicking and screaming as I made the transition. I ultimately determined that security was worth the price.
There is certainly pain with losing a favorite add-on though.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 5:01 PM, Jackie wrote:
Hey Travis, I'd forgotten about portable ff! Thanks for the reminder! Indeed, that worked. So I decided to paw thru what few FF addons I had installed, & of course it had to be my favorite screen capture tool! @#$%! So something in the last update of ff proved incompatible w/Nimbus Screen Capture. O, well--I can just as easily use Screen Grab, I guess. I sure hate it like bloody double-hockey-stick when that happens, though. Man all these addons can really cause problems when they want to!
Thanks again for the reminder about portable ff. & editing w/ff will be a lot easier again. That's particularly true as I use GMail on the web & not an email client. That was getting tedious, & past time to get fixed.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie,
Here's one thing I thought of trying. This should tell us if your Firefox update might have corrupted things somehow.
Grab the portable version of Firefox:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
It's version 62.0.2, the latest right now, and choose where you want it on your computer.
When done, open it up and see if you can select text normally, or if you're still having trouble. If things are normal, your desktop installation may have corrupted, and you might have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox. If things are still not working properly with the portable edition, you may have to do the same uninstalling/reinstalling, but this time with NVDA.
Another idea is to disable all NVDA and/or Firefox add-ons and extensions and see if something there may be causing troubles. If things work after that, try enabling things one at a time, and one of them will likely break Firefox selection for you, but you'll know what the culprit is this time.
Hopefully something will work.
I just tested things again with NVDA 2018.2, Windows 10 and Firefox 61.0.2, both 64-bit, and all worked as expected.
Good luck,
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:39 PM, Jackie wrote:
Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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I think the biggest loss to our community has been that of Webvisum. There was this 1 music site--again no longer in existence--that required completion of a captcha in order to download music. After my eldest daughter was killed, I frequented that site a lot. It helped me get thru all that. I will always be grateful to those gentlemen for that addon. I told them so, too, both w/my words & w/my money. But when you can't make enough money for doing stuff like that to keep the lights on, you move on to other stuff that pays the bills. Unfortunately, that's what a lot of these programmers have to do, because they're simply not making enough money to make it worthwhile to continue maintaining the app in question.
Nice to make your acquaintance, Travis.
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On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote: Hey, Jackie, I certainly hear you. I was using a few legacy add-ons when we all needed to upgrade to FF Quantum, so there was a bit of virtual kicking and screaming as I made the transition. I ultimately determined that security was worth the price.
There is certainly pain with losing a favorite add-on though.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 5:01 PM, Jackie wrote:
Hey Travis, I'd forgotten about portable ff! Thanks for the reminder! Indeed, that worked. So I decided to paw thru what few FF addons I had installed, & of course it had to be my favorite screen capture tool! @#$%! So something in the last update of ff proved incompatible w/Nimbus Screen Capture. O, well--I can just as easily use Screen Grab, I guess. I sure hate it like bloody double-hockey-stick when that happens, though. Man all these addons can really cause problems when they want to!
Thanks again for the reminder about portable ff. & editing w/ff will be a lot easier again. That's particularly true as I use GMail on the web & not an email client. That was getting tedious, & past time to get fixed.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie,
Here's one thing I thought of trying. This should tell us if your Firefox update might have corrupted things somehow.
Grab the portable version of Firefox:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
It's version 62.0.2, the latest right now, and choose where you want it on your computer.
When done, open it up and see if you can select text normally, or if you're still having trouble. If things are normal, your desktop installation may have corrupted, and you might have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox. If things are still not working properly with the portable edition, you may have to do the same uninstalling/reinstalling, but this time with NVDA.
Another idea is to disable all NVDA and/or Firefox add-ons and extensions and see if something there may be causing troubles. If things work after that, try enabling things one at a time, and one of them will likely break Firefox selection for you, but you'll know what the culprit is this time.
Hopefully something will work.
I just tested things again with NVDA 2018.2, Windows 10 and Firefox 61.0.2, both 64-bit, and all worked as expected.
Good luck,
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:39 PM, Jackie wrote:
Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Hey, Jackie, I certainly hear you. I was using a few legacy add-ons when we all needed to upgrade to FF Quantum, so there was a bit of virtual kicking and screaming as I made the transition. I ultimately determined that security was worth the price.
There is certainly pain with losing a favorite add-on though.
Travis
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On 8/28/2018 5:01 PM, Jackie wrote: Hey Travis, I'd forgotten about portable ff! Thanks for the reminder! Indeed, that worked. So I decided to paw thru what few FF addons I had installed, & of course it had to be my favorite screen capture tool! @#$%! So something in the last update of ff proved incompatible w/Nimbus Screen Capture. O, well--I can just as easily use Screen Grab, I guess. I sure hate it like bloody double-hockey-stick when that happens, though. Man all these addons can really cause problems when they want to!
Thanks again for the reminder about portable ff. & editing w/ff will be a lot easier again. That's particularly true as I use GMail on the web & not an email client. That was getting tedious, & past time to get fixed.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Hi Jackie,
Here's one thing I thought of trying. This should tell us if your Firefox update might have corrupted things somehow.
Grab the portable version of Firefox:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
It's version 62.0.2, the latest right now, and choose where you want it on your computer.
When done, open it up and see if you can select text normally, or if you're still having trouble. If things are normal, your desktop installation may have corrupted, and you might have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox. If things are still not working properly with the portable edition, you may have to do the same uninstalling/reinstalling, but this time with NVDA.
Another idea is to disable all NVDA and/or Firefox add-ons and extensions and see if something there may be causing troubles. If things work after that, try enabling things one at a time, and one of them will likely break Firefox selection for you, but you'll know what the culprit is this time.
Hopefully something will work.
I just tested things again with NVDA 2018.2, Windows 10 and Firefox 61.0.2, both 64-bit, and all worked as expected.
Good luck,
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:39 PM, Jackie wrote:
Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Hey Travis, I'd forgotten about portable ff! Thanks for the reminder! Indeed, that worked. So I decided to paw thru what few FF addons I had installed, & of course it had to be my favorite screen capture tool! @#$%! So something in the last update of ff proved incompatible w/Nimbus Screen Capture. O, well--I can just as easily use Screen Grab, I guess. I sure hate it like bloody double-hockey-stick when that happens, though. Man all these addons can really cause problems when they want to!
Thanks again for the reminder about portable ff. & editing w/ff will be a lot easier again. That's particularly true as I use GMail on the web & not an email client. That was getting tedious, & past time to get fixed.
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On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote: Hi Jackie,
Here's one thing I thought of trying. This should tell us if your Firefox update might have corrupted things somehow.
Grab the portable version of Firefox:
https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
It's version 62.0.2, the latest right now, and choose where you want it on your computer.
When done, open it up and see if you can select text normally, or if you're still having trouble. If things are normal, your desktop installation may have corrupted, and you might have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox. If things are still not working properly with the portable edition, you may have to do the same uninstalling/reinstalling, but this time with NVDA.
Another idea is to disable all NVDA and/or Firefox add-ons and extensions and see if something there may be causing troubles. If things work after that, try enabling things one at a time, and one of them will likely break Firefox selection for you, but you'll know what the culprit is this time.
Hopefully something will work.
I just tested things again with NVDA 2018.2, Windows 10 and Firefox 61.0.2, both 64-bit, and all worked as expected.
Good luck,
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:39 PM, Jackie wrote:
Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Hi Jackie, Here's one thing I thought of trying. This should tell us if your Firefox update might have corrupted things somehow. Grab the portable version of Firefox: https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portableIt's version 62.0.2, the latest right now, and choose where you want it on your computer. When done, open it up and see if you can select text normally, or if you're still having trouble. If things are normal, your desktop installation may have corrupted, and you might have to uninstall and reinstall Firefox. If things are still not working properly with the portable edition, you may have to do the same uninstalling/reinstalling, but this time with NVDA. Another idea is to disable all NVDA and/or Firefox add-ons and extensions and see if something there may be causing troubles. If things work after that, try enabling things one at a time, and one of them will likely break Firefox selection for you, but you'll know what the culprit is this time. Hopefully something will work. I just tested things again with NVDA 2018.2, Windows 10 and Firefox 61.0.2, both 64-bit, and all worked as expected. Good luck, Travis
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On 8/28/2018 3:39 PM, Jackie wrote: Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Unfortunately, it's been doing this since I updated sometime last week, ie, it's been restarted multiple times since.
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On 8/28/18, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote: Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote:
Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Try restarting NVDA. I did have that work one time when the normal selection methods seemed to be broken. No guarantees, but worth a try at least I think. Pressing ctrl+alt+n will automatically close and restart NVDA.
Travis
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On 8/28/2018 3:22 PM, Jackie wrote: Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Well, it works when a whole line is selected, but not word by word.
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On 8/28/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote:
Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Hi
it is not happening on my version of fire fox and it is the latest version 61 some thing a rather. It is selecting what I want and i hear it say the word then selecting or is it selected all the line i want then copy it.
So no problems but I am using a 32 bit version of fire fox but do not think that would just because you have a 64 bit version it would do it.
Gene nz
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On 8/29/2018 9:43 AM, Jackie wrote: Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this?
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Using Firefox version 61.0.2 (64-bit), when I press control shift right arrow, words are no longer selected. Anyone else notice this? -- Remember! Friends Help Friends Be Cybersafe Jackie McBride Helping Cybercrime Victims 1 Person at a Time https://brighter-vision.com
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