Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant. Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty limited.

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't like
about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in time, like
if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up that just says
"new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it kind of messes with
switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app instead of going right to
the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm in the new notification
window. Other than that it doesn't seem too bad, I have to open it if I
want to write longer messages but I've been dealing with that OK. Being
able to write shorter messages right from the notification is kind of
handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite
mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with
something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For
any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button
in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would
start hating it after some time. ;)
Best,
Felix
Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't like
about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in time, like
if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up that just says
"new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it kind of messes with
switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app instead of going right to
the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm in the new notification
window. Other than that it doesn't seem too bad, I have to open it if I
want to write longer messages but I've been dealing with that OK. Being
able to write shorter messages right from the notification is kind of
handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite
mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with
something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For
any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button
in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would
start hating it after some time. ;)
Best,
Felix
Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't like
about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in time, like
if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up that just says
"new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it kind of messes with
switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app instead of going right to
the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm in the new notification
window. Other than that it doesn't seem too bad, I have to open it if I
want to write longer messages but I've been dealing with that OK. Being
able to write shorter messages right from the notification is kind of
handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah, not
Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2 desktop
version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call
with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide
the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I
could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area
where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned
out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a
chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I
sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to
be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are
also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty
limited.

it's actually very easy to get to chat messages in Skype and everything else. Use your quickness Keith such as S4 forms E4 edit Boxes Etc. I can get around faster than I could ever with Skype 7. It is a breeze and I've been using it for a job that uses Skype, in fact I just talked to classes this week using Skype 8 for Windows. I've been using the last client now for about 6 months and love it.


On September 10, 2018 23:14:29 "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite
mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with
something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For
any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button
in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would
start hating it after some time. ;)
Best,
Felix
Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't like
about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in time, like
if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up that just says
"new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it kind of messes with
switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app instead of going right to
the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm in the new notification
window. Other than that it doesn't seem too bad, I have to open it if I
want to write longer messages but I've been dealing with that OK. Being
able to write shorter messages right from the notification is kind of
handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So

yeah, not

Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure

Windows

10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2

desktop

version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in

a call

with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option

to hide

the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area

where I

could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an

area

where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it

turned

out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link

in a

chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good

because I

sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know

how to

be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible.

There are

also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was

pretty

limited.

Hmmm its quite confusing to me, I will look at it again then.



On 9/11/2018 6:40 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

it's actually very easy to get to chat messages in Skype and
everything else. Use your quickness Keith such as S4 forms E4 edit
Boxes Etc. I can get around faster than I could ever with Skype 7. It
is a breeze and I've been using it for a job that uses Skype, in fact
I just talked to classes this week using Skype 8 for Windows. I've
been using the last client now for about 6 months and love it.


On September 10, 2018 23:14:29 "Felix G."
<constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite
mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with
something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For
any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button
in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would
start hating it after some time. ;)
Best,
Felix
Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't like
about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in time, like
if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up that just says
"new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it kind of messes with
switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app instead of going
right to
the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm in the new notification
window. Other than that it doesn't seem too bad, I have to open it if I
want to write longer messages but I've been dealing with that OK. Being
able to write shorter messages right from the notification is kind of
handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So

yeah, not

Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure

Windows

10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an OK
button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to be
keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2

desktop

version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in

a call

with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept
telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option

to hide

the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area

where I

could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an

area

where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it

turned

out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link

in a

chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I
don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good

because I

sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know

how to

be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible.

There are

also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to
either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was

pretty

limited.

To be honest as part of a possible job I tried to get my head around the skype 8 interface, but I never know where I am and to be honest its a large kludge of buttons.

I really think microsoft just needs to have a way we can use the skype classic interface in skype 8 to be honest either that or just leave 7 always up.

The download link for 7 has gone from their website but oh well.



On 9/11/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant. Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty limited.

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't
like about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in
time, like if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up
that just says "new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it
kind of messes with switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app
instead of going right to the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm
in the new notification window. Other than that it doesn't seem too
bad, I have to open it if I want to write longer messages but I've
been dealing with that OK. Being able to write shorter messages right
from the notification is kind of handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah,
not Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure
Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an
OK button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to
be keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2
desktop version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a
call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat.
Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an
option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into
the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the
buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought
that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to
where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a
call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because
I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know
how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible.
There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I
couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the
screen was pretty limited.

I don't think you have to tab to everything if you know the layout.
You can put place markers to the spots you use a lot, and press K to jump from one to the other.
If it is an edit field, you can press the letter E and you can search for part of a word on a page to go right to it.
And you can list links to arrow through links.
I have to do all this stuff in my work software.
Glenn


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would start hating it after some time. ;) Best, Felix Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't
like about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in
time, like if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up
that just says "new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it
kind of messes with switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app
instead of going right to the desktop I have to hit win-m because I'm
in the new notification window. Other than that it doesn't seem too
bad, I have to open it if I want to write longer messages but I've
been dealing with that OK. Being able to write shorter messages right
from the notification is kind of handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2 version
which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one and have a
look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So yeah,
not Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm pretty sure
Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time I
tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a better
experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and gave me an
OK button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since they seem to
be keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get used to whatever
Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to worry so much about
what's maybe being killed when and then oh no it turns out that was
wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2
desktop version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a
call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat.
Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an
option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into
the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the
buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought
that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to
where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a
call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic
training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because
I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know
how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible.
There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I
couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the
screen was pretty limited.

I don't think you have to tab to everything if you know the layout.
You can put place markers to the spots you use a lot, and press K to jump from one to the other.
If it is an edit field, you can press the letter E and you can search for part of a word on a page to go right to it.
And you can list links to arrow through links.
I have to do all this stuff in my work software.
Glenn


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would start hating it after some time. ;) Best, Felix Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't
like about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in
time, like if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up
that just says "new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it
kind of messes with switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app
instead of going right to the desktop I have to hit win-m because
I'm in the new notification window. Other than that it doesn't seem
too bad, I have to open it if I want to write longer messages but
I've been dealing with that OK. Being able to write shorter messages
right from the notification is kind of handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2
version which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one
and have a look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So
yeah, not Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm
pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time
I tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a
better experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and
gave me an OK button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since
they seem to be keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get
used to whatever Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to
worry so much about what's maybe being killed when and then oh no
it turns out that was wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2
desktop version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in
a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat.
Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was
an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get
into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the
buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought
that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get
to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in
a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA
basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good
because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like
to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible.
There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I
couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on
the screen was pretty limited.

I don't think you have to tab to everything if you know the layout.
You can put place markers to the spots you use a lot, and press K to jump from one to the other.
If it is an edit field, you can press the letter E and you can search for part of a word on a page to go right to it.
And you can list links to arrow through links.
I have to do all this stuff in my work software.
Glenn


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

I wonder why so many developers think tabbing around is our favorite mode of navigation. It's good for familiarizing ourselves with something, but as the only way of getting around it's inefficient. For any sighted dev lurking here, it's like having to click every button in between where focus is and where you'd like it to be. You would start hating it after some time. ;) Best, Felix Am Di., 11. Sep. 2018 um 02:11 Uhr schrieb John Isige <gwynn@tds.net>:

Oh huh! Maybe I'll try that then. If you figure it out that would be
great but I kind of started using the app because I didn't think you
could use the desktop version after 7. The other big thing I don't
like about the app is that if I don't get to the notifications in
time, like if I'm away from the computer, it leaves this window up
that just says "new notification" and I can't get rid of it. So it
kind of messes with switching apps and stuff, or if I close an app
instead of going right to the desktop I have to hit win-m because
I'm in the new notification window. Other than that it doesn't seem
too bad, I have to open it if I want to write longer messages but
I've been dealing with that OK. Being able to write shorter messages
right from the notification is kind of handy really.


On 9/10/2018 17:42, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Ok i have both on this computer but only using the skype 8.2
version which is the desk top version. I will log out of that one
and have a look back in the other one to see.


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:37 AM, John Isige wrote:

"Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8." So
yeah, not Skype 8.2, but the app version for Windows 10. I'm
pretty sure Windows
10 won't let you run the not app version, at least the last time
I tried downloading and installing 8, it told me I'd have a
better experience if I installed from the Microsoft store and
gave me an OK button, and that's it. I could go back to 7 since
they seem to be keeping it around, but I'm really trying to get
used to whatever Microsoft wants me to use so I don't have to
worry so much about what's maybe being killed when and then oh no
it turns out that was wrong and so on.


On 9/10/2018 17:28, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


Is it the app version which is on windows 10? or the skype 8.2
desktop version?


Gene nz



On 11/09/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in
a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat.
Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was
an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get
into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the
buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought
that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get
to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in
a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant.
Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA
basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good
because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like
to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible.
There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I
couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on
the screen was pretty limited.

And yet they are saying they are not stopping supporting it in a press release some days back. Do the left and right hand know what they are doing I wonder.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting to chat messages during a call in Skype for Windows 10.

To be honest as part of a possible job I tried to get my head around the skype 8 interface, but I never know where I am and to be honest its a large kludge of buttons.

I really think microsoft just needs to have a way we can use the skype classic interface in skype 8 to be honest either that or just leave 7 always up.

The download link for 7 has gone from their website but oh well.



On 9/11/2018 10:04 AM, John Isige wrote:

Hey all. Ran into something today for the first time. I was in a call with somebody and wanted to send them a link in a chat. Skype kept telling me that call controls were shown. There was an option to hide the chat, but no way that I could tell to get into the area where I could type a message. Tabbing through the buttons there was an area where NVDA read nothing and I thought that might be it, but it turned out not to be. So how do I get to where I can type/send a link in a chat to the person I'm in a call with? I checked the hotkeys and I don't see anything that immediately jumps out at me as relevant. Please note, this is Skype for Windows 10, not Skype 8.


Funnily enough I was trying to send them a link to the NVDA basic training. I ended up emailing them instead which was good because I sent them a bunch of other links too. Still, I'd like to know how to be able to do that when in a call. I assume it's possible. There are also other functions, e.g. sending a file, that I couldn't get to either, e.g. with tab. The set of controls on the screen was pretty limited.

.