
Marco Oros
Hi!
I don't know, if I've asked It, but I would like to compose music, also enter It to the notes. What is good software for the blind, used with NVDA for this purpose?
Thank You.
Marco
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Sarah k Alawami
Muse score works well,.
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On September 13, 2018 05:52:04 "Marco Oros" <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote: Hi!
I don't know, if I've asked It, but I would like to compose music, also enter It to the notes. What is good software for the blind, used with NVDA for this purpose?
Thank You.
Marco
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Hi there, It depends what you want to do. If you want to work with MIDI to compose and produce music, then I can recommend QWS for basic work, or Reaper if you need a more advanced DAW. On the other hand, if you want to work with printing scores and so on, then I'm afraid I'll have to let somebody else answer that. Hope that helps. Cheers, Damien.
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On 13/09/2018 01:51 PM, Marco Oros wrote: Hi! I don't know, if I've asked It, but I would like to compose music, also enter It to the notes. What is good software for the blind, used with NVDA for this purpose? Thank You. Marco
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Giles Turnbull
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
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Good morning.
I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready
to be embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those
midi files, right?
There is a software called Braille music editor which might help
you with what you're needing.
Cheers.
Fernando Apan.
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El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles
Turnbull escribió:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play
piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music,
prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score
I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is
any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I
could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of
chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being
unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text
from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less
important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three
notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember
just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille
music)
Giles
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I guess reaper feeds into this too. Sadly even the audio editing side of this is completely foxing me at the moment, the sound device keeps vanishing and I'm running out of free days, almost ready to throw in the towel. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Softwares to compose music for the blind Good morning.
I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready to be embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those midi files, right?
There is a software called Braille music editor which might help you with what you're needing.
Cheers.
Fernando Apan.
El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles Turnbull escribió:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
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Even once your 60 days are up you can still use it. It just gives you the notification about purchasing after that. On 9/13/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: I guess reaper feeds into this too. Sadly even the audio editing side of this is completely foxing me at the moment, the sound device keeps vanishing
and I'm running out of free days, almost ready to throw in the towel. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Softwares to compose music for the blind
Good morning.
I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready to be embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those midi files, right?
There is a software called Braille music editor which might help you with what you're needing.
Cheers.
Fernando Apan.
El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles Turnbull escribió:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
-- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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HI, Marco. I recommend you consider subscribing to the Midimag-ex list at: midimag-ex-subscribe@mailman.midimag-xt.org & ask what folks use over there. There's a wide mix of both professional & amateur musicians, so you can get views from many perspectives.
Anyone else who'd like to join is also welcome. Feel free to contact me privately if you have questions or require assistance.
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On 9/13/18, Lenron <lenron93@gmail.com> wrote: Even once your 60 days are up you can still use it. It just gives you the notification about purchasing after that.
On 9/13/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I guess reaper feeds into this too. Sadly even the audio editing side of this is completely foxing me at the moment, the sound device keeps vanishing
and I'm running out of free days, almost ready to throw in the towel. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Softwares to compose music for the blind
Good morning.
I can offer you various pieces in braille format that are ready to be embossed, but that's the problem, because you prefer those midi files, right?
There is a software called Braille music editor which might help you with what you're needing.
Cheers.
Fernando Apan.
El 13/09/2018 a las 08:33 a.m., Giles Turnbull escribió:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
-- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762
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Marco Oros
I haven't any MIDI device connected to My PC.
Can I use QWS also?
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It does have a virtual keyboard, though it's pretty hard to use that w/any degree of precision.
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On 9/13/18, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote: I haven't any MIDI device connected to My PC.
Can I use QWS also?
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Hi, Dancing Dots has afaIk. OCR for scores, too: http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htmI suppose the software to scan scores also is able to scan PDF. Yours sincerely Arno Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:33 schrieb Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>:
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I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
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On 9/13/18, Arno Schuh <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> wrote: Hi,
Dancing Dots has afaIk. OCR for scores, too: http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm I suppose the software to scan scores also is able to scan PDF.
Yours sincerely
Arno
Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:33 schrieb Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
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On 9/13/2018 18:49, Jackie wrote: Well, there's always ABC, about which you can find out more here: http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/doc/ABCtut.html
On 9/13/18, Arno Schuh <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> wrote:
Hi,
Dancing Dots has afaIk. OCR for scores, too: http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm I suppose the software to scan scores also is able to scan PDF.
Yours sincerely
Arno
Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:33 schrieb Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
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Sarah k Alawami
The stuff for writing notiatin is I think a bit old as they did update
the key sig stuff and a lot more to work wiht nvda.
Take care
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On 13 Sep 2018, at 17:52, John Isige wrote:
I missed the beginning of this, but if you're looking for stuff that
does notation, MuseScore can at least read it, rather you can read it
with it, and some work was done on making adding notation accessible,
but I haven't messed with any of it. Here's the main MuseScore page.
https://musescore.org/en
Here's the accessibility stuff for writing notation.
https://accessiblemusicnotation.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/new-accessibility-work-on-musescore/
On 9/13/2018 18:49, Jackie wrote:
> Well, there's always ABC, about which you can find out more here:
> http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/doc/ABCtut.html
>
> On 9/13/18, Arno Schuh arno.schuh@... wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Dancing Dots has afaIk. OCR for scores, too:
>> http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm
>> I suppose the software to scan scores also is able to scan PDF.
>>
>> Yours sincerely
>>
>> Arno
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:33 schrieb Giles Turnbull
>> giles.turnbull@...:
>>
>>> I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my
>>> sighted
>>> days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the
>>> score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much
>>> of
>>> those pieces.
>>>
>>> I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is
>>> any
>>> way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could
>>> somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords
>>> with
>>> three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to
>>> figure
>>> them out by listening to a recording.
>>>
>>> I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text
>>> from
>>> which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less
>>> important
>>> for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
>>>
>>> It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes
>>> in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just
>>> this morning!
>>>
>>> Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille
>>> music)
>>>
>>> Giles
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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OK, where's the updated stuff then?
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On 9/14/2018 11:46, Sarah k Alawami wrote: The stuff for writing notiatin is I think a bit old as they did update the key sig stuff and a lot more to work wiht nvda.
Take care
On 13 Sep 2018, at 17:52, John Isige wrote:
I missed the beginning of this, but if you're looking for stuff that does notation, MuseScore can at least read it, rather you can read it with it, and some work was done on making adding notation accessible, but I haven't messed with any of it. Here's the main MuseScore page.
https://musescore.org/en
Here's the accessibility stuff for writing notation.
https://accessiblemusicnotation.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/new-accessibility-work-on-musescore/
On 9/13/2018 18:49, Jackie wrote:
Well, there's always ABC, about which you can find out more here: http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/doc/ABCtut.html
On 9/13/18, Arno Schuh <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> wrote:
Hi,
Dancing Dots has afaIk. OCR for scores, too: http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm I suppose the software to scan scores also is able to scan PDF.
Yours sincerely
Arno
Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:33 schrieb Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>:
I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my sighted days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much of those pieces.
I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is any way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords with three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to figure them out by listening to a recording.
I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text from which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less important for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three notes in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just this morning!
Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille music)
Giles
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Sarah k Alawami
Not sure. I know it was discussed some months ago on this list. For
example they said the key sig is not accessible. It is now and ther were
some other things. I don't remember as I was no using a windows machine
at the time, still am not except when I have t.
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On 14 Sep 2018, at 10:39, John Isige wrote:
OK, where's the updated stuff then?
On 9/14/2018 11:46, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
> The stuff for writing notiatin is I think a bit old as they did
> update the key sig stuff and a lot more to work wiht nvda.
>
> Take care
>
> On 13 Sep 2018, at 17:52, John Isige wrote:
>
>> I missed the beginning of this, but if you're looking for stuff that
>> does notation, MuseScore can at least read it, rather you can read
>> it with it, and some work was done on making adding notation
>> accessible, but I haven't messed with any of it. Here's the main
>> MuseScore page.
>>
>>
>> https://musescore.org/en
>>
>>
>> Here's the accessibility stuff for writing notation.
>>
>>
>> https://accessiblemusicnotation.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/new-accessibility-work-on-musescore/
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2018 18:49, Jackie wrote:
>>> Well, there's always ABC, about which you can find out more here:
>>> http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/doc/ABCtut.html
>>>
>>> On 9/13/18, Arno Schuh arno.schuh@... wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Dancing Dots has afaIk. OCR for scores, too:
>>>> http://www.dancingdots.com/main/index.htm
>>>> I suppose the software to scan scores also is able to scan PDF.
>>>>
>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>
>>>> Arno
>>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:33 schrieb Giles Turnbull
>>>> giles.turnbull@...:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a sort-of similar question. I used to play piano in my
>>>>> sighted
>>>>> days but mever memorised any of the music, prefering to read the
>>>>> score as I played. Now I can't read a score I can't remember much
>>>>> of
>>>>> those pieces.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have PDF scores of a lot of piano music and wonder if there is
>>>>> any
>>>>> way that something like Muse Score could open a PDF and I could
>>>>> somehow figure out what notes are where? I'm thinking of chords
>>>>> with
>>>>> three or more notes across both hands, my ear being unable to
>>>>> figure
>>>>> them out by listening to a recording.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love a means of converting a PDF or a midi file into a text
>>>>> from
>>>>> which I can determine the notes ... the durations are less
>>>>> important
>>>>> for me since I can remember how the pieces sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's funny, I just asked a sighted friend for help with three
>>>>> notes
>>>>> in Chopin's first ballade which I was struggling to remember just
>>>>> this morning!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any ideas (and no, I never learned to read Braille
>>>>> music)
>>>>>
>>>>> Giles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Marco Oros
OK.
I'll return back to this discussion.
QWS is very good, I have a little Midi keyboard, because I would like to compose music outside My home.
But, another question is for You and It is related to this thing, what is difference between Audio and Midi and where to use first and second and what are Your best recommendations?
Because I would like to write article about It.
Dňa 13. 9. 2018 o 23:43 Jackie napísal(a):
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It does have a virtual keyboard, though it's pretty hard to use that w/any degree of precision.
On 9/13/18, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't any MIDI device connected to My PC.
Can I use QWS also?
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Hi Marco, Audio is generally a recording, in terms of a computer represented in digital form, and reproducing roughly the same output regardless of equipment. MIDI is a specification (Musical instrument digital interface) that describes how to communicate with digital musical instruments. The related files are simply instruction files containing several MIDI messages that are played through an instrument. This means that the output from said files depends very heavily on the equipment used to play it. Windows comes with its own MIDI synthesiser called Microsoft GS Wavetable which is based off of the Roland Virtual Sound Canvas, but with fewer instruments and effects. Usually, you will want to render a MIDI file into an appropriate audio format for people to be able to hear it how you imagine it to be heard. MIDI files are generally used for the composition process. They are the basis for converting the music to audio, or indeed a print score. Hope this answers a few questions. Cheers, Damien.
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On 03/10/2018 09:40 PM, Marco Oros wrote: OK. I'll return back to this discussion. QWS is very good, I have a little Midi keyboard, because I would like to compose music outside My home. But, another question is for You and It is related to this thing, what is difference between Audio and Midi and where to use first and second and what are Your best recommendations? Because I would like to write article about It. Dňa 13. 9. 2018 o 23:43 Jackie napísal(a):
It does have a virtual keyboard, though it's pretty hard to use that w/any degree of precision.
On 9/13/18, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't any MIDI device connected to My PC.
Can I use QWS also?
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Sarah k Alawami
Midi is simply 0's and 1,s tt is on and off with other instructions for
a computer to ender. Audio is the wave form that you can see on a
consoul or an editor, that you cannot edit and speed up and slow down as
it is not a coputer language, but bits and bytes on a cd or in an mp3.
I guess look it up in wikipedia if you want. A beter explenation.
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On 3 Oct 2018, at 13:40, Marco Oros wrote:
OK.
I'll return back to this discussion.
QWS is very good, I have a little Midi keyboard, because I would like
to compose music outside My home.
But, another question is for You and It is related to this thing, what
is difference between Audio and Midi and where to use first and second
and what are Your best recommendations?
Because I would like to write article about It.
Dňa 13. 9. 2018 o 23:43 Jackie napísal(a):
> It does have a virtual keyboard, though it's pretty hard to use that
> w/any degree of precision.
>
> On 9/13/18, Marco Oros marco.oros93@... wrote:
>> I haven't any MIDI device connected to My PC.
>>
>> Can I use QWS also?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hi! The following article provides the basic data you are looking for: https://www.rolandcorp.com.au/blog/midi-vs-audioThat being said, we should probably not let this thread go further astray, except to mention that I usually don't even attempt to write articles while I'm still in the basic definitions phase of researching something. :) Best, Felix Am Do., 4. Okt. 2018 um 01:18 Uhr schrieb Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com>:
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Midi is simply 0's and 1,s tt is on and off with other instructions for a computer to ender. Audio is the wave form that you can see on a consoul or an editor, that you cannot edit and speed up and slow down as it is not a coputer language, but bits and bytes on a cd or in an mp3. I guess look it up in wikipedia if you want. A beter explenation.
On 3 Oct 2018, at 13:40, Marco Oros wrote:
OK.
I'll return back to this discussion.
QWS is very good, I have a little Midi keyboard, because I would like to compose music outside My home.
But, another question is for You and It is related to this thing, what is difference between Audio and Midi and where to use first and second and what are Your best recommendations?
Because I would like to write article about It.
Dňa 13. 9. 2018 o 23:43 Jackie napísal(a):
It does have a virtual keyboard, though it's pretty hard to use that w/any degree of precision.
On 9/13/18, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@gmail.com> wrote:
I haven't any MIDI device connected to My PC.
Can I use QWS also?
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