Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released


 

Hi all,

 

I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1

 

Changelog:

 

* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between controls.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 


David Moore
 

Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore
 
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
 

Hi all,

 

I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1

 

Changelog:

 

* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between controls.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Andre Fisher
 

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
controls.



Cheers,

Joseph




 

Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly
for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name
field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph




Gene
 

There may be a way to stop edit or read only edit from being spoken as a work around until the problem is fixed.  there may be a setting you can turn off that stops announcements that describe the kind of field you are in.  But that may be more extreme than you want unless you can limit the change to this one program.  Perhaps a profile can limit it to just that program. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
> at:
>
> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1
>
>
>
> Changelog:
>
>
>
> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
> apps such as Settings).
>
> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
> and Mail's message content.
>
> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
> controls.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>



 

Hi,

Actually, the issue cannot be solved with a configuration profile: it’s the way Mail exposes information to NVDA, and Mick wrote a fix for it (for those tracking the source code, it’s part of EdgeRS1 branch).
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

There may be a way to stop edit or read only edit from being spoken as a work around until the problem is fixed.  there may be a setting you can turn off that stops announcements that describe the kind of field you are in.  But that may be more extreme than you want unless you can limit the change to this one program.  Perhaps a profile can limit it to just that program. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
> at:
>
> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1
>
>
>
> Changelog:
>
>
>
> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
> apps such as Settings).
>
> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
> and Mail's message content.
>
> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
> controls.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>


Gene
 

Here are some more thoughts:
Also, temporarily, using the speech dictionary to stop the word or phrase from being spoken may help.  But again, this may be too extreme a work around unless you can limit it to one program.  I don't know if you can limit changes in the speech dictionary to just one program.  I haven't used the speech dictionary in newer versions of NVDA so I don't know if that ability is now available. 
 
But also, the first question is whether this problem can be easily worked around in another way.  Does it occur when you use the read to end command or just when you up or down arrow through a message? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

There may be a way to stop edit or read only edit from being spoken as a work around until the problem is fixed.  there may be a setting you can turn off that stops announcements that describe the kind of field you are in.  But that may be more extreme than you want unless you can limit the change to this one program.  Perhaps a profile can limit it to just that program. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
> David Moore
>
>
> From: Joseph Lee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,
> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found
> at:
>
> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1
>
>
>
> Changelog:
>
>
>
> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for
> apps such as Settings).
>
> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field
> and Mail's message content.
>
> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between
> controls.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>



Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app. When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I activate it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around, I get that dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the latest NVDA snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly
for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name
field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph






Andre Fisher
 

Hello Joseph.
If the fix will not be available in a stable version for now, could
you try to add it to the next version? Also, what will be in the next
snapshot?

Hello Christo
Which version of Windows are you using? I get no errors here, all be
it with a stable NVDA version. The weather app works great!

Hello Gene.
It also happens in say all. It won't help if you create a dictionary
entry or configuration profile. A dictionary entry is not app specific
at the moment, and it might cause confusion.

On 9/6/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest
version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app.
When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I activate
it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around, I get that
dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the latest NVDA
snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent
thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part of a
branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the add-on
isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a fix for
it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a new add-on
snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after every
press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no proper
structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly
for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name
field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph










 

Hi Andre,
It'll be available as part of 16.09.1A (about an hour from now). The snapshot fixes one instance where NVDA will speak gibberish when talking to Cortana.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
If the fix will not be available in a stable version for now, could you try to add it to the next version? Also, what will be in the next snapshot?

Hello Christo
Which version of Windows are you using? I get no errors here, all be it with a stable NVDA version. The weather app works great!

Hello Gene.
It also happens in say all. It won't help if you create a dictionary entry or configuration profile. A dictionary entry is not app specific at the moment, and it might cause confusion.

On 9/6/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest
version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app.
When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I
activate it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around,
I get that dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the
latest NVDA snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent
thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part
of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the
add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a
fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a
new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled
(mostly for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment
name field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph










Andre Fisher
 

Looks like the snapshot is for me then. I get that sometimes.

On 9/6/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi Andre,
It'll be available as part of 16.09.1A (about an hour from now). The
snapshot fixes one instance where NVDA will speak gibberish when talking to
Cortana.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre
Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
If the fix will not be available in a stable version for now, could you try
to add it to the next version? Also, what will be in the next snapshot?

Hello Christo
Which version of Windows are you using? I get no errors here, all be it with
a stable NVDA version. The weather app works great!

Hello Gene.
It also happens in say all. It won't help if you create a dictionary entry
or configuration profile. A dictionary entry is not app specific at the
moment, and it might cause confusion.

On 9/6/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph

I don't know if you saw, but a few days ago I wrote that the latest
version of the add-on does not work properly in the Win 10 Weather app.
When I disable the app, the Weather app works quite well. If I
activate it and then go into the Weather app, whenever I move around,
I get that dong sound you get with the NVDA snapshots. I am using the
latest NVDA snapshot.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/09/06 4:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Andre,
1. NVDA says "edit": Mick Curran from NV Access says this is a recent
thing and have written a fix for it. Unfortunately, the fix is part
of a branch that isn't ready for wider testing, and porting it to the
add-on isn't trivial.
2. Readme structure problem: I've noticed it myself. I'll commit a
fix for it (16.09.1A) in about half an hour as I'm also releasing a
new add-on snapshot today.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Andre Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hello Joseph.
Quick observations on my end.
1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after
every press of down/up arrow.
2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no
proper structure like headings and links.

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi all,
I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.
David Moore


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

Hi all,



I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials
16.09.1, a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new
release can be found
at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1



Changelog:



* Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled
(mostly for apps such as Settings).

* NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment
name field and Mail's message content.

* In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move
between controls.



Cheers,

Joseph















Chris
 

Cortana Cortana still still keeps keeps repeating repeating repeating everything everything after after installation installation  long long long time this issue issue issue

 

Rather annoying annoying annoying

 

Many thanks

 

 

 

 

From: Andre Fisher
Sent: 06 September 2016 15:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

 

Hello Joseph.

Quick observations on my end.

1. The message content of the Mail app still reports "edit" after

every press of down/up arrow.

2. The add-on help file seems to be broken. That is, there is no

proper structure like headings and links.

 

On 9/6/16, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I just installed it and it works great in the areas Joseph mentioned.

> David Moore

> From: Joseph Lee

> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:06 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.09,1 released

> Hi all,

> I'm delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials 16.09.1,

> a minor bug fix release for WinTenApps 16.09.x. The new release can be found

> at:

> https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.09.1

> Changelog:

> * Appearance of suggestions for search fields is now brailled (mostly for

> apps such as Settings).

> * NVDA no longer announces "read-only" for Calendar's appointment name field

> and Mail's message content.

> * In Maps, fixed an issue where one could not use TAB key to move between

> controls.

> Cheers,

> Joseph