38 degrees


Peter Beasley
 

I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

 

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What are you using to get your email?
IE is it a client, if so, which one and is it set to display in html?
If its online web mail which site is it?
Personally I've had some horribly designed hover over rubbish sent to me from these sort of sites and ended up viewing the page source to get at the links.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 11:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] 38 degrees


I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

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Peter Beasley
 

                                I use Windows mail. I also have outlook, but using that the graphic does not show up.

 

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

What are you using to get your email?

IE is it a client, if so, which one and is it set to display in html?

If its online web mail which site is it?

Personally I've had some horribly designed hover over rubbish sent to me

from  these sort of sites and ended up viewing the page source to get at the

links.

 

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@...>

To: <nvda@groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 11:22 AM

Subject: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

 

I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I

had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an

ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only

use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

 

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Yes exactly they are using email formats which are not truly to spec, so how can one really be expected to do anything with them.
Do these people not test their emails on all the clients, I wonder? Shoddy work in my opinion. Do you not have any way to tell them their emails are rubbish?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 38 degrees

                                I use Windows mail. I also have outlook, but using that the graphic does not show up.

 

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: 06 October 2018 11:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

What are you using to get your email?

IE is it a client, if so, which one and is it set to display in html?

If its online web mail which site is it?

Personally I've had some horribly designed hover over rubbish sent to me

from  these sort of sites and ended up viewing the page source to get at the

links.

 

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@...>

To: <nvda@groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2018 11:22 AM

Subject: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

 

I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I

had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an

ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only

use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Jonathan COHN
 

I would expect you should be able to still click on the link. It is possible you might need to click on the link twice. Once to download the image actually associated with the graphic and then a second time to activate the link.

 

Generally mail distribution sites use a distinct download URL for each recipient then when the grapic is downloaded from that URL the service can believe that the message has been read. Though if you look at the source, you should see something like

 

<a href=https://foo.bar/survey><img src=”square.picture” alt=”square”></img><a>

 

This code is putting a graphic inside a link and calling the graphic “square”. If you copy the portion after the href= and before the first > that is the code to get to the actual survey.

 

Often times I find these Graphical images don’t even have an “alt” attribute and so screen readers try to interpret the image file name as a name for the link, and one gets complete gibberish from the screen reader.

 

 

HTH,

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 6:25 AM
To: "nvda@groups.io" <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

 

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Peter Beasley
 

That doesn’t work.

 

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From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: 07 October 2018 16:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

I would expect you should be able to still click on the link. It is possible you might need to click on the link twice. Once to download the image actually associated with the graphic and then a second time to activate the link.

 

Generally mail distribution sites use a distinct download URL for each recipient then when the grapic is downloaded from that URL the service can believe that the message has been read. Though if you look at the source, you should see something like

 

<a href=https://foo.bar/survey><img src=”square.picture” alt=”square”></img><a>

 

This code is putting a graphic inside a link and calling the graphic “square”. If you copy the portion after the href= and before the first > that is the code to get to the actual survey.

 

Often times I find these Graphical images don’t even have an “alt” attribute and so screen readers try to interpret the image file name as a name for the link, and one gets complete gibberish from the screen reader.

 

 

HTH,

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 6:25 AM
To: "nvda@groups.io" <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] 38 degrees

 

I get e-mails from 38 degrees which is a petition site. Until recently, I had no problem entering on links to sign their petitions. Instead of an ordinary link, what I get now is graphic wrecked angle contains link. I only use NVDA, so has anyone got any ideas on how I can click on these links.

 

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