NVDA ticking instead of speaking


Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I have a strange problem with NVDA. About a week ago it stopped speaking and just made a clicking sound ... I'm not even sure if it might be the same sound as when speech mode is set to beeps.

That time I took it into the university library and their technology team took a look at it and I don't know what they did but they sorted it out again. I can't remember if they uninstalled NVDA and re-installed it from a fresh copy, but I don't think they did because all my settings and addons were still installed.

When I say it isn't speaking, it is when using the touch screen but for some reason it has no login option on it. The first library person I spoke to tried to login that way but failed and sent it to some of the other tech specialists. Whatever they did they fixed it and I thought all was well and good.

But Windows has just updated itself again and I'm back to where I was before. When I swipe my finger across the touch screen it says "Desktop: but every key I try to press just does its clicking / beeping thing. If I try to press CTRL + s to cycle through the speech options nothing happens, ditto if I use the INS key as my NVDA key.

So I have two questions:

1) Does anybody have any idea what has happened and is there any way I can fix this by myself or do I need to return to the uni library?

2) How can I stop this happening every time Windows updates? DO I need to stop allowing Windows to update?

I realise some sort of log file would be helpful, but there is no way I can do anything with this tablet at the moment. I'm using a Microsoft Surface Pro 4, whatever version of Windows 10 it just updated itself to (it'll be the latest one) and NVDA 2018.3.2.

I am beginning to panic because I've got a poetry reading on 21st October and I use NVDA to read some of the poems to the audience.

Grateful for any suggestions at all :)

Giles


hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


it may as you said have speech mode set to beeps. If so use the nvda key + letter S to toggle it back to talk. The options are off, beep and talk.


I thought it might of been the mouse audio cordinates tried it but does not sound like it and does it on when the mouse is moved.


Gene nz




On 11/10/2018 10:43 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I have a strange problem with NVDA. About a week ago it stopped speaking and just made a clicking sound ... I'm not even sure if it might be the same sound as when speech mode is set to beeps.

That time I took it into the university library and their technology team took a look at it and I don't know what they did but they sorted it out again. I can't remember if they uninstalled NVDA and re-installed it from a fresh copy, but I don't think they did because all my settings and addons were still installed.

When I say it isn't speaking, it is when using the touch screen but for some reason it has no login option on it. The first library person I spoke to tried to login that way but failed and sent it to some of the other tech specialists. Whatever they did they fixed it and I thought all was well and good.

But Windows has just updated itself again and I'm back to where I was before. When I swipe my finger across the touch screen it says "Desktop: but every key I try to press just does its clicking / beeping thing. If I try to press CTRL + s to cycle through the speech options nothing happens, ditto if I use the INS key as my NVDA key.

So I have two questions:

1) Does anybody have any idea what has happened and is there any way I can fix this by myself or do I need to return to the uni library?

2) How can I stop this happening every time Windows updates? DO I need to stop allowing Windows to update?

I realise some sort of log file would be helpful, but there is no way I can do anything with this tablet at the moment. I'm using a Microsoft Surface Pro 4, whatever version of Windows 10 it just updated itself to (it'll be the latest one) and NVDA 2018.3.2.

I am beginning to panic because I've got a poetry reading on 21st October and I use NVDA to read some of the poems to the audience.

Grateful for any suggestions at all :)

Giles


Tyler Spivey
 

My best guess without hearing the click is that it might be Filter Keys.
If your NVDA speaks with the touch screen, then it's not the speech mode.
Try this. Hold down your right shift key for 8 seconds.
Filter Keys will make sort of a clicking sound if it's been turned on,
and the right options have been set.
That should toggle it. Once done, you can go into the settings and
disable the shortcut.

On 10/10/2018 2:43 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I have a strange problem with NVDA. About a week ago it stopped speaking
and just made a clicking sound ... I'm not even sure if it might be the
same sound as when speech mode is set to beeps.

That time I took it into the university library and their technology
team took a look at it and I don't know what they did but they sorted it
out again. I can't remember if they uninstalled NVDA and re-installed it
from a fresh copy, but I don't think they did because all my settings
and addons were still installed.

When I say it isn't speaking, it is when using the touch screen but for
some reason it has no login option on it. The first library person I
spoke to tried to login that way but failed and sent it to some of the
other tech specialists. Whatever they did they fixed it and I thought
all was well and good.

But Windows has just updated itself again and I'm back to where I was
before. When I swipe my finger across the touch screen it says "Desktop:
but every key I try to press just does its clicking / beeping thing. If
I try to press CTRL + s to cycle through the speech options nothing
happens, ditto if I use the INS key as my NVDA key.

So I have two questions:

1) Does anybody have any idea what has happened and is there any way I
can fix this by myself or do I need to return to the uni library?

2) How can I stop this happening every time Windows updates? DO I need
to stop allowing Windows to update?

I realise some sort of log file would be helpful, but there is no way I
can do anything with this tablet at the moment. I'm using a Microsoft
Surface Pro 4, whatever version of Windows 10 it just updated itself to
(it'll be the latest one) and NVDA 2018.3.2.

I am beginning to panic because I've got a poetry reading on 21st
October and I use NVDA to read some of the poems to the audience.

Grateful for any suggestions at all :)

Giles


Gene
 

The message says that Insert s does nothing.  I would suggest running Narrator and trying to run the installer.  Does it speak or do you need to use Narrator to read the first installation screen?  Cancel the installation if speech doesn't occur.  If it does, tell the installer to create a portable version. You can use that for the poetry reading if the installed version doesn't work.  Let us know if the portable version works.  I believe you will be able to use either Narrator or the portable version to solve the problem.  If you try to run the installer and see what happens, that will provide more information.  also, what speech are you using?  At this point it isn't clear whether the problem is an NVDA problem or a synthesizer problem.  
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA ticking instead of speaking

Hi


it may as you said have speech mode set to beeps. If so use the nvda key + letter S to toggle it back to talk. The options are off, beep and talk.


I thought it might of been the mouse audio cordinates tried it but does not sound like it and does it on when the mouse is moved.


Gene nz




On 11/10/2018 10:43 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

I have a strange problem with NVDA. About a week ago it stopped speaking and just made a clicking sound ... I'm not even sure if it might be the same sound as when speech mode is set to beeps.

That time I took it into the university library and their technology team took a look at it and I don't know what they did but they sorted it out again. I can't remember if they uninstalled NVDA and re-installed it from a fresh copy, but I don't think they did because all my settings and addons were still installed.

When I say it isn't speaking, it is when using the touch screen but for some reason it has no login option on it. The first library person I spoke to tried to login that way but failed and sent it to some of the other tech specialists. Whatever they did they fixed it and I thought all was well and good.

But Windows has just updated itself again and I'm back to where I was before. When I swipe my finger across the touch screen it says "Desktop: but every key I try to press just does its clicking / beeping thing. If I try to press CTRL + s to cycle through the speech options nothing happens, ditto if I use the INS key as my NVDA key.

So I have two questions:

1) Does anybody have any idea what has happened and is there any way I can fix this by myself or do I need to return to the uni library?

2) How can I stop this happening every time Windows updates? DO I need to stop allowing Windows to update?

I realise some sort of log file would be helpful, but there is no way I can do anything with this tablet at the moment. I'm using a Microsoft Surface Pro 4, whatever version of Windows 10 it just updated itself to (it'll be the latest one) and NVDA 2018.3.2.

I am beginning to panic because I've got a poetry reading on 21st October and I use NVDA to read some of the poems to the audience.

Grateful for any suggestions at all :)

Giles


Giles Turnbull
 

nope, presing NVDA and s to togle doesn't make any difference and, if I try to swipe on the touchscreen or tap the screen, NVDA does say, "Desktop"

so clearly it is set to speek but for some reason it is not accepting any keyboard input.

I'm baffled!

Giles


Giles Turnbull
 

Tyler, you're a star! I had considered filter keys but didn't realise shift needed to be held down for quite that long to turn it off, and I was trying the left shift key anyway!

Happy all is working again now :)

Cheers,

Giles


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Try narrator and that way you can see what is going on, well hear it. However do not change things, only try one thing at once.
To me the lack of log on speech means that the user profile is not copied to that section. I guess you can at least look at nvda settings using narrator though to see what has changed if anything.
It would be handy to know what voice is default as well.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA ticking instead of speaking


Hi all,

I have a strange problem with NVDA. About a week ago it stopped speaking and just made a clicking sound ... I'm not even sure if it might be the same sound as when speech mode is set to beeps.

That time I took it into the university library and their technology team took a look at it and I don't know what they did but they sorted it out again. I can't remember if they uninstalled NVDA and re-installed it from a fresh copy, but I don't think they did because all my settings and addons were still installed.

When I say it isn't speaking, it is when using the touch screen but for some reason it has no login option on it. The first library person I spoke to tried to login that way but failed and sent it to some of the other tech specialists. Whatever they did they fixed it and I thought all was well and good.

But Windows has just updated itself again and I'm back to where I was before. When I swipe my finger across the touch screen it says "Desktop: but every key I try to press just does its clicking / beeping thing. If I try to press CTRL + s to cycle through the speech options nothing happens, ditto if I use the INS key as my NVDA key.

So I have two questions:

1) Does anybody have any idea what has happened and is there any way I can fix this by myself or do I need to return to the uni library?

2) How can I stop this happening every time Windows updates? DO I need to stop allowing Windows to update?

I realise some sort of log file would be helpful, but there is no way I can do anything with this tablet at the moment. I'm using a Microsoft Surface Pro 4, whatever version of Windows 10 it just updated itself to (it'll be the latest one) and NVDA 2018.3.2.

I am beginning to panic because I've got a poetry reading on 21st October and I use NVDA to read some of the poems to the audience.

Grateful for any suggestions at all :)

Giles


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What add ons do you have?
There is an add on that locks the keyboard.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA ticking instead of speaking


nope, presing NVDA and s to togle doesn't make any difference and, if I try to swipe on the touchscreen or tap the screen, NVDA does say, "Desktop"

so clearly it is set to speek but for some reason it is not accepting any keyboard input.

I'm baffled!

Giles