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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not standard.


Jackie
 

Go to preferences > keyboard & tab to "speak command keys". Check the
box, press 'apply' then ok, & save the configuration.

On 10/11/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.



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Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA+4 toggles speak command keys.  That won't announce if you just press SHIFT and let it go, but it will announce "CONTROL+S" if you press those keys.

You can also access that option from the "Keyboard" settings (NVDA+CONTROL+K to get there directly, or via the NVDA menu).

In order to practise the keyboard, you can also use NVDA's "Input help" mode.  Press NVDA+1 to turn Input help on.  From then, you can press any key or key combination and NVDA will announce what you have pressed (including things like shift on its own) and what NVDA function it performs (if it's an NVDA keystroke).  The keys won't do anything however, so if you press the WINDOWS key, NVDA will report it, but the Windows Start menu will not open.

Press NVDA+1 to turn input help off again.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

i tried that and the only extra keys that were spoken were everything but control and shift.

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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard


Go to preferences > keyboard & tab to "speak command keys". Check the
box, press 'apply' then ok, & save the configuration.

On 10/11/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.




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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

ok, though it does not announce the control and shift keys specifically it will announce the key combinations.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <abletec@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard


Go to preferences > keyboard & tab to "speak command keys". Check the
box, press 'apply' then ok, & save the configuration.

On 10/11/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.




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I seem to remember that there were very valid reasons why trying to read just control and shift keys was not a good idea. For a start on their own, except windows ones, they only do stuff if they are combined with another, also I think that if you do intercept them then you get a stutter if you try to use a combination which is often more confusing. One of the biggest issues I get with people is that they seem unaware that the right hand key next to the space bar is in fact alt/control or that the right windows key has specific context sensitive uses, but can be still used if the laptop does not have the key by using shift with a function key. And do not get me started with the issue of laptops having the normal functions only available if you use an fn key as well.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard


NVDA+4 toggles speak command keys. That won't announce if you just press
SHIFT and let it go, but it will announce "CONTROL+S" if you press those
keys.

You can also access that option from the "Keyboard" settings
(NVDA+CONTROL+K to get there directly, or via the NVDA menu).

In order to practise the keyboard, you can also use NVDA's "Input help"
mode. Press NVDA+1 to turn Input help on. From then, you can press any
key or key combination and NVDA will announce what you have pressed
(including things like shift on its own) and what NVDA function it performs
(if it's an NVDA keystroke). The keys won't do anything however, so if you
press the WINDOWS key, NVDA will report it, but the Windows Start menu will
not open.

Press NVDA+1 to turn input help off again.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:57 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <
godfearer@...> wrote:

I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.


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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Twitter: @NVAccess



Chris Mullins
 

Hi

To help with the fact that the shift key is not announced with command keys on, you could go to the voice dialog NVDA+alt+v and set up either a Capital pitch percentage, say cap when typing a capital letter or beep when typing a capital letter.  Then set speak type characters on with NVDA+2, and your newbie will be able to hear that capital letters are being typed.

 

Cheers

Chris   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 12 October 2018 01:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard

 

NVDA+4 toggles speak command keys.  That won't announce if you just press SHIFT and let it go, but it will announce "CONTROL+S" if you press those keys.

 

You can also access that option from the "Keyboard" settings (NVDA+CONTROL+K to get there directly, or via the NVDA menu).

 

In order to practise the keyboard, you can also use NVDA's "Input help" mode.  Press NVDA+1 to turn Input help on.  From then, you can press any key or key combination and NVDA will announce what you have pressed (including things like shift on its own) and what NVDA function it performs (if it's an NVDA keystroke).  The keys won't do anything however, so if you press the WINDOWS key, NVDA will report it, but the Windows Start menu will not open.

Press NVDA+1 to turn input help off again.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:57 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not standard.


 

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