Microsoft word question


Angelo Sonnesso
 

Is there a way to fine out what line you are on in your document?
In Jaws when you press insert/caps lock plus period it tells you the line
number you are on.
Thanks

73 N2DYN Angelo


Akshaya Choudhary
 

The only way to do this in NVDA is to check the check box for line numbers in document formatting. Go to NVDA menu> preferences> document formatting> check box for line numbers.
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Regards,
Sociohack


Angelo Sonnesso
 

Thanks

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

 

The only way to do this in NVDA is to check the check box for line numbers in document formatting. Go to NVDA menu> preferences> document formatting> check box for line numbers.
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Regards,
Sociohack


hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not sure about a shortcut for reporting which line you are on but there is a setting under document formatting called line numbers which would need to be checked to report a line. There may be a setting under the input gestures in nvda.


Just checked and there is and it looks as though you can asign a key for it to to toggle it on and off. Not some thing i have used for a long time.

So not sure when it is on it says the number but guess it would and when off you do not hear it at all.


Gene nz

that may allow you to assign one? 


On 13/10/2018 10:27 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
Is there a way to fine out what line you are on in your document?
In Jaws when you press insert/caps lock plus period it tells you the line
number you are on.
Thanks

73 N2DYN Angelo






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Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

Microsoft Word does display the line number on the status bar. You can read
the status bar with NVDA and get that information. Please see the following
link for details on Word's line number display.
https://word.tips.net/T001412_What_Line_Am_I_On.html

You do not need to enable NVDA's reporting of line numbers.

Pranav


Akshaya Choudhary
 

And how do we jump to the status bar?
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Regards,
Sociohack


 

See the topic, word count in MS word document, in the JAWS for Windows group for a discussion of several different ways to get to the status bar.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Jason White
 

You can always use Alt+r, W to obtain a word count.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 3:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

 

See the topic, word count in MS word document, in the JAWS for Windows group for a discussion of several different ways to get to the status bar.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, are we not in a NVDA list?

You can use F6 to junp untill the status bar, or use the command NVDA+End to read it...

Rui Fontes


Às 20:01 de 14/10/2018, Brian Vogel escreveu:

See the topic, word count in MS word document <https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/word_count_in_ms_word/26800757?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,0,40,26800757>, in the JAWS for Windows group for a discussion of several different ways to get to the status bar.
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Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
*/The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors./*
      ~ Fran Lebowitz in /Ruminator/ Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)


 

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:15 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Sorry, are we not in a NVDA list?
Sorry that you don't believe that pointing to resources elsewhere is appropriate.   That's your issue, not mine.  I will continue doing so.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Laurie Mehta
 

I appreciated Rui's comment/question. Most of us here are not part of any JFW groups and would not easily access them as resources.
Thanks Rui, for mentioning what I was thinking.

Cheers,
Laurie

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On Sun, 10/14/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:15 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Sorry, are we not in a NVDA list?
Sorry that you don't believe that pointing to resources elsewhere is appropriate.   That's your issue, not mine.  I will continue doing so.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  
The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.
      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)


JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

He provided a link to the topic in question though. It's archived; you don't have to be a part of the list. You don't even have to be a JAWS user.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io
Sent: October 14, 2018 7:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

I appreciated Rui's comment/question. Most of us here are not part of any JFW groups and would not easily access them as resources.
Thanks Rui, for mentioning what I was thinking.

Cheers,
Laurie

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On Sun, 10/14/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:15 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Sorry, are we not in a NVDA list?
Sorry that you don't believe that pointing to resources elsewhere is appropriate. That's your issue, not mine. I will continue doing so.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance. Huge. We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.
~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)


Laurie Mehta
 

Well, this is good to know, and thanks for mentioning it.
LM

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On Sun, 10/14/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:

He provided a link to the topic in question
though. It's archived; you don't have to be a part of the
list. You don't even have to be a JAWS user.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io
Sent: October 14, 2018 7:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word
question

I appreciated Rui's comment/question.
Most of us here are not part of any JFW groups and would not
easily access them as resources.
Thanks Rui, for mentioning what I was
thinking.

Cheers,
Laurie

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On Sun, 10/14/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:15 PM, Rui
Fontes wrote:
Sorry, are we not in a NVDA list?
Sorry that you don't believe that
pointing to resources elsewhere is appropriate. 
That's your issue, not mine.  I will continue doing
so.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit,
Version 1809, Build 17763 The terrible state of public
education has paid huge dividends in ignorance. 
Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant
lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not
talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a
terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15
of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole
country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have
faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The
whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.
      ~ Fran Lebowitz in
Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept
2005)


 

Because I'm so well known for offering material that the intended audience can't actually get to.  Uh huh.

Why retype material that's just been covered elsewhere a couple of days ago when you can just click through and read it?

C'mon, (some) people, think  - and give me the credit that I have demonstrated I deserve!
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

Use the f6 key to cycle between the document and the status bar. I do not know of a hotkey to read it but this may be a good feature request.

Pranav


Gene
 

Often, just because a resource is for JAWS doesn't mean it can't be used by other screen-reader users.  If this material contains JAWS specific commands, then you may not be able to use those commands.  But if there are equivalent commands in NVDA and you know them or learn them, then you may be able to use the information.  Or the information may not be JAWS specific or some or much of it may not.  Just because a JAWS source is given doesn't mean it can't be used.  And if JAWS commands are given, you can ask if there are equivalents on the list. 
 
In this case, I didn't look at the material and I don't know what information is given so I can't comment on the usefulness of the material.  But it shouldn't be assumed to be useless.  I would suggest reading it to find out.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

I appreciated Rui's comment/question. Most of us here are not part of any JFW groups and would not easily access them as resources.
Thanks Rui, for mentioning what I was thinking.

Cheers,
Laurie

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On Sun, 10/14/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:15 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Sorry, are we not in a NVDA list?
Sorry that you don't believe that pointing to resources elsewhere is appropriate.   That's your issue, not mine.  I will continue doing so.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  
The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.
      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)




Rui Fontes
 

As I said, the hotkey is NVDA+End.

Rui


Às 01:29 de 15/10/2018, Pranav Lal escreveu:

Hi,
Use the f6 key to cycle between the document and the status bar. I do not know of a hotkey to read it but this may be a good feature request.
Pranav


Gene
 

But using that command reads the entire status bar and it is very difficult, if possible at all, to pick out that one number from all the other information.  However, if you read the status line, that moves the NVDA review location to the status line.  So, if you figure out what order the information is presented, you can review the line item by item and determine the number. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

As I said, the hotkey is NVDA+End.

Rui


Às 01:29 de 15/10/2018, Pranav Lal escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> Use the f6 key to cycle between the document and the status bar. I do not know of a hotkey to read it but this may be a good feature request.
>
> Pranav
>
>
>
>
>



Gene
 

I should say that the information is there but you may have to experiment to see just how to get to it.  I have Word Starter, which is not the newest version of Word.  I found, when playing with the status line after writing my previous message in the thread, that it may move up a number of lines from the bottom.  If the read status line reads the bottom line and it isn't the status line, moving up should find it.  I also find that information isn't necessarily presented in a proper manner.  Read the line a bit at a time, perhaps character by character in some places.  I found that at times, in my version, the number of words is followed by another number and then a space.  So I might se 101 which means ten words and then the number 1.  I'm not sure what the number 1 is referring to.  It may refer to the page I'm on but I didn't try to figure it out.  My point is that the information is there if you figure out how to read it.
 
Someone has already told you another way to get a word count and that would be easier to use if it matches the procedure in your version.  But you may want or need, for some reason, to use the status line for this or other information.  and its good to know about it just from a standpoint of equality.  If sighted people have this resource and they find it useful, why shouldn't blind people know about it?  You don't have to know everything a sighted person knows or sees in a program but there are certain features that it may be useful to know about. 
 
Programs that still have status lines may have useful information in the status line and it is a good idea to look for a status line in various programs.  At times, useful information is not found in a traditional status line, by which I mean at the bottom of a screen or there may not be one.  but, for example, in MP3 Direct Cut, the program gives you useful information in a line near the top of the page.  When the program is recording, it says, writing and then gives the path and filename of the file it is writing to.  That keeps you from issuing the record command and not knowing if the program is recording.  That line also gives information about how far, by minutes and seconds, you are into the file when you are playing or editing it. 
 
My overall point is that unless people start looking around using review keys in programs where they aren't getting enough information in other ways, they may be significantly limiting the accuracy and/or convenience of use of the program.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

But using that command reads the entire status bar and it is very difficult, if possible at all, to pick out that one number from all the other information.  However, if you read the status line, that moves the NVDA review location to the status line.  So, if you figure out what order the information is presented, you can review the line item by item and determine the number. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft word question

As I said, the hotkey is NVDA+End.

Rui


Às 01:29 de 15/10/2018, Pranav Lal escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> Use the f6 key to cycle between the document and the status bar. I do not know of a hotkey to read it but this may be a good feature request.
>
> Pranav
>
>
>
>
>



Richard Wells
 

Easiest way to read status line in any application that has one is NVDA-KEY+END.


On 10/14/2018 2:01 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
See the topic, word count in MS word document, in the JAWS for Windows group for a discussion of several different ways to get to the status bar.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)