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Some applications take a long time to close
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Gene
You could try with JAWS or Narrator or something
else. I would think the usual reason for doing such comparisons would be
to try to determine if NVDA is causing a problem or if the problem is
unrelated.
Gene
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Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Some applications take a long time to
close Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Some applications take a long time to close > Have you tried with nvda closed? That is close nvda then close > winword.exe? > > On 18 Oct 2018, at 0:08, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: > >> I'm sure all versions of Winword used to just close quickly but on the >> current stable NVDA, at least there does seem to often be a several >> second delay before anything happens after the alt/F4. >> I looked at the log, but really was no wiser other than watchdog for core >> frozen in stack was happening. >> >> IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.654): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'bowling cancelled.doc - >> Microsoft Word'] >> IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.716): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'multi line'] >> IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.755): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'page 1 section 1', u'end.'] >> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:52:56.746): >> Input: kb(desktop):alt+f4 >> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent >> (07:52:56.786): >> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 4391520, objectID -4 and >> childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect >> DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (07:52:57.292): >> Trying to recover from freeze, core stack: >> File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module> >> File "core.pyo", line 508, in main >> File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop >> File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify >> File "core.pyo", line 478, in run >> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 883, in pumpAll >> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 657, in processFocusWinEvent >> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent >> File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 357, in isUIAWindow >> File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 345, in _isUIAWindowHelper >> >> DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (07:52:57.592): >> errors in this core pump cycle >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "core.pyo", line 478, in run >> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 883, in pumpAll >> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 657, in processFocusWinEvent >> File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent >> File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 357, in isUIAWindow >> File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 351, in _isUIAWindowHelper >> File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller >> CallCancelled >> DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1632 (dwm.exe) (07:53:01.897): >> Thread 4180, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback, >> 66: >> SetWindowsHookEx with WH_GETMESSAGE failed, GetLastError returned 5 >> >> DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1632 (dwm.exe) (07:53:01.898): >> Thread 4180, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback, >> 69: >> SetWindowsHookEx with WH_CALLWNDPROC failed, GetLastError returned 5 >> >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.019): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'unknown'] >> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent >> (07:53:02.119): >> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1770350, objectID -4 and >> childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error >> DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent >> (07:53:02.151): >> oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 3474190, objectID -4 and >> childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect >> DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole >> (07:53:02.164): >> accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, >> None, 0, None)) >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.454): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'(No Subject) - Unicode (UTF-8)'] >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.460): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'read only multi line'] >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.467): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'selected 1245 characters'] >> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:53:05.035): >> Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r >> DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (07:53:05.091): >> application winword closed >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.107): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar'] >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.198): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal'] >> IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.198): >> Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank'] >> INFO - core.main (07:53:05.374): >> Exiting >> >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal E-mail to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> >> > > >
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I just use timing is all. If it takes 5 seconds to close word with nvda on and you shut down nvda and close word then start nvda after 3 seconds or what not you will know. You could also use narrator to close winword and know if it still slow at closing.
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On 18 Oct 2018, at 10:53, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
How would I then know if it were closed though?
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How would I then know if it were closed though?
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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Some applications take a long time to close Have you tried with nvda closed? That is close nvda then close winword.exe?
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Have you tried with nvda closed? That is close nvda then close winword.exe?
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On 18 Oct 2018, at 0:08, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I'm sure all versions of Winword used to just close quickly but on the current stable NVDA, at least there does seem to often be a several second delay before anything happens after the alt/F4.
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I'm sure all versions of Winword used to just close quickly but on the current stable NVDA, at least there does seem to often be a several second delay before anything happens after the alt/F4.
I looked at the log, but really was no wiser other than watchdog for core frozen in stack was happening. IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.654): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'bowling cancelled.doc - Microsoft Word'] IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.716): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'multi line'] IO - speech.speak (07:52:51.755): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'page 1 section 1', u'end.'] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:52:56.746): Input: kb(desktop):alt+f4 DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (07:52:56.786): oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 4391520, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (07:52:57.292): Trying to recover from freeze, core stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 214, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 508, in main File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify File "core.pyo", line 478, in run File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 883, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 657, in processFocusWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 357, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 345, in _isUIAWindowHelper DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (07:52:57.592): errors in this core pump cycle Traceback (most recent call last): File "core.pyo", line 478, in run File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 883, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 657, in processFocusWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 357, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 351, in _isUIAWindowHelper File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1632 (dwm.exe) (07:53:01.897): Thread 4180, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback, 66: SetWindowsHookEx with WH_GETMESSAGE failed, GetLastError returned 5 DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 1632 (dwm.exe) (07:53:01.898): Thread 4180, build\x86_64\remote\injection.cpp, inproc_winEventCallback, 69: SetWindowsHookEx with WH_CALLWNDPROC failed, GetLastError returned 5 IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.019): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'unknown'] DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (07:53:02.119): oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 1770350, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (07:53:02.151): oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 3474190, objectID -4 and childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (07:53:02.164): accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None)) IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.454): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'(No Subject) - Unicode (UTF-8)'] IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.460): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'read only multi line'] IO - speech.speak (07:53:02.467): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'selected 1245 characters'] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (07:53:05.035): Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (07:53:05.091): application winword closed IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.107): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar'] IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.198): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal'] IO - speech.speak (07:53:05.198): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank'] INFO - core.main (07:53:05.374): Exiting bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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