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Hi Pauline
Here in “Worcester, South Africa, we upgraded to Windows 10. We used to use JAWS and Magic for screen access and training. As I said, we upgraded and since then we make use of NVDA as our speech access. For the students requiring screen magnification, we use Windows’s built-in screen magnifier. Apparently with great success. I wouldn’t know for sure, as I am blind myself.
Regards
Christo Vorster (Worcester South Africa)
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith
Sent: Thursday, 22 September 2016 12:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
Good Evening,
Personally, I wouldn't be in a big hurry to upgrade to Windows 10. I think that 7 will still be supported for a while. However, any new computer a person gets will probably have 10 already installed. So any computer our students get from their rehabilitation counselors will likely have 10 on it. We will need to be able to teach them how to use that equipment.
Here in the US, a company called Computers for the Blind sells refurbished computers at a reduced price. They come loaded with NVDA and a demo copy of screen enlargement software for those who need it. They are now sending those computers with 10 installed. So, the only reason to upgrade would be for teaching purposes.
Pauline
On 9/20/2016 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
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Pauline Smith <paulinesmithh@...>
Good Evening,
Personally, I wouldn't be in a big hurry to upgrade to Windows 10. I think that 7 will still be supported for a while. However, any new computer a person gets will probably have 10 already installed. So any computer our students get from their rehabilitation counselors will likely have 10 on it. We will need to be able to teach them how to use that equipment.
Here in the US, a company called Computers for the Blind sells refurbished computers at a reduced price. They come loaded with NVDA and a demo copy of screen enlargement software for those who need it. They are now sending those computers with 10 installed. So, the only reason to upgrade would be for teaching purposes.
Pauline On 9/20/2016 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
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Arlene
Well, whatever floats her boat. If she does get a refurbished 7. That’s great. If she gets ten that’s great too.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-20-16 11:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
Are you stating a hypothetical situation or something you know to be the case? Does she need a new computer? If so, she may want to get a Windows 10 machine. But you can get new computers that are not Windows 10 machines. You can still buy Windows computers that are business machines that have Windows 7 on them. And you can get refurbished machines from computers for the blind that have Windows 7 on them. I don't know what Pauline's situation is. She talked about upgrading to Windows 10. that kind of phrase is usually used by someone who is considering upgrading an existing computer to Windows 10. But I don't know what her situation is nor what she has in mind.
I'm not advocating upgrading or not upgrading. I'm simply saying that Microsoft has offered Windows 10 as a free upgrade and hyped Windows 10. I've seen enough people who have upgraded and had mild or more serious regrets to simply say that the decision should be considered carefully. In terms of purchasing a new machine, the person may want to consider her options. Consideration may produce a different conclusion when purchasing a new machine but again, that may be something the person wants to discuss as well.
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Gene! Let’s just say Pauline Smith desperately needed a new computer! Her previous computer decides to bite the dust. Then if she did get a new one. It will be windows ten. She would probably would need Windows defender that is like MSE. Now, weather she’d want windows ten or wants to update. She and others who purchase a new computer will have windows ten installed.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to Windows 10? there are reasons to approach doing so with caution. I won't go into an in depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to upgrade. Depending on your answer, I may have more comments.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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Arlene
Preach it brother! Win ten was a huge hype! Now that everybody has it or upgraded to it. It wore off. Mind you, I will use ten in a new computer. With this 7 box. I don’t fully trust it. I'll wait until this one dies then go to ten or a mac. I've had this system for 5 years. I'm happy with 7. I don’t need to keep up with every man and his dog!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: September-20-16 9:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus Well one thing all users still on 7 should be happy about especially if you install optionals, an update was released today from microsoft which removes gwx and at least 8 associated updates for win10. Since updating today my performance has gone up and the hard drive seems to run quieter. Even though I had stopped gwx from working microsoft is finally leaving us users alone. In addition, even though they say that win7 is not the top of their game it has been recieving cumulitive updates as optional role ups. As well as performance updates for dot net among others as well as system file checker fixes to work with that update. My point is that while small win7 is still being enhanced. My major bief around 10 was all the hype round and I was right. Its a nice system to have but now most of the hype is gone we actually find that win10 is not the system that microsoft said it would be and in some cases its even worse. Give me a desktop any day. On 21/09/2016 2:02 p.m., Pauline Smith wrote: This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to |
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Gene
Such rumors about inaccessibility are just that,
rumors. They are absurd on their face.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Its true, some of us are happy where we are. However not all systems that were offered the update could take advantage of it. Not everyone has the most updated software and or hardware. Not to put a to sharp point it, the reason the update was hated was that microsoft! forced! the! upgrade! on! users!!!!!!! They forced this update on us and gave us little choice in the matter. Ofcause we hated it. They basically put spyware on our systems to install it and while it worked for a multi device setup and while those that couldn't afford it like some of my family took advantage of the free offer. There were those that were caught out. Those that had to replace their hardware and many law suits against microsoft for an update that they neither wanted or could handle or needed. As it stands, windows 10's goal of universal apps and a unified account is only good if you. 1. have or use an ms account all the time including but not limited to use another device like a tablet all the time and don't mind. or 2 want to jump in and get something new maybe with new hardware. I have seen situations where its been the best thing. However in some situations things still go with it. I know that after working on those units that use it when I return to my win7 based machines I find them easy to navigate etc. There are also disquieting rumors going on that win10 will eventually become inaccessible to everything excluding microsoft narator which it appears ms is bribing people to say doesn't suck. In reality, narator was crap before, and continues to be so, it was before and its worse now. Microsoft is unlikely to make it better no matter what guff it states. I am seriously going to have to get a legal old unit to stay legal or simple just not be legal at all if this continues. There is no need to change things. True the next high end hardware packages may not support 10 but we are talking about 6th and 7th generation hardware up. There is enough 5th and 4th generation stuff right now that I could care less what os I use. And while microsoft does accept feadback, the fact now the hype has gone as far as I care, windows 10 is just another slightly better version of windows 8 or vista or me, its junk. Not all of it but enough of it is and with the anniversery update it can be worse. Things like edge don't work out the box and with ms holding that close to their chest a lot of manufacturers just don't support it or care anymore. Windows as a service sounds nice so does a lot of the tech around it, in reality though some stuff like universal apps, the new intergrated account system, edge and a few other things are just not ready for primetime. And its worse for those of us with single machines, older hardware and or don't use a tablet. I am one of those, we have a new computer using 10 though the rest don't. I have family and friends using things to as far as they can go and enjoying it. I am happy that microsoft is no longer forcing users. On 21/09/2016 8:12 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote: > I have also see that many complain about the upgrade, however no one has > present good argument for that. The mayor problem is that people are to > laysy learning new thing. > > > > > Den 2016-09-21 kl. 08:30, skrev Gene: >> Are you stating a hypothetical situation or something you know to be >> the case? Does she need a new computer? If so, she may want to get a >> Windows 10 machine. But you can get new computers that are not >> Windows 10 machines. You can still buy Windows computers that are >> business machines that have Windows 7 on them. And you can get >> refurbished machines from computers for the blind that have Windows 7 >> on them. I don't know what Pauline's situation is. She talked about >> upgrading to Windows 10. that kind of phrase is usually used by >> someone who is considering upgrading an existing computer to Windows >> 10. But I don't know what her situation is nor what she has in mind. >> I'm not advocating upgrading or not upgrading. I'm simply saying that >> Microsoft has offered Windows 10 as a free upgrade and hyped Windows >> 10. I've seen enough people who have upgraded and had mild or more >> serious regrets to simply say that the decision should be considered >> carefully. In terms of purchasing a new machine, the person may want >> to consider her options. Consideration may produce a different >> conclusion when purchasing a new machine but again, that may be >> something the person wants to discuss as well. >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Arlene <mailto:nedster66@...> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:34 PM >> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Antivirus >> >> Gene! Let’s just say Pauline Smith <mailto:paulinesmithh@...> >> desperately needed a new computer! Her previous computer decides to >> bite the dust. Then if she did get a new one. It will be windows ten. >> She would probably would need Windows defender that is like MSE. Now, >> weather she’d want windows ten or wants to update. She and others who >> purchase a new computer will have windows ten installed. >> >> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of >> *Gene >> *Sent:* September-20-16 8:29 PM >> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io >> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Antivirus >> >> Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to Windows 10? there are >> reasons to approach doing so with caution. I won't go into an in >> depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to upgrade. >> Depending on your answer, I may have more comments. >> >> Gene >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:*Pauline Smith <mailto:paulinesmithh@...> >> >> *Sent:*Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:25 PM >> >> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> >> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] Antivirus >> >> Thank you all for letting me know about Windows Defender. With this >> information, I will consider updating to Win 10 soon. I think I will >> get the MS Accessibility line to help me do this. >> >> >> Thanks, again for the Defender info. >> >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> On 9/20/2016 10:52 PM, Arlene wrote: >> > Hi, that's what I just said. windows defender does work for ten. >> From what I heard it's more accessible with ten then it is for 7. Yes >> it works just like MSE from what I heard. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stanley Haupt >> > Sent: September-20-16 7:44 PM >> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus >> > >> > Hello Pauline: >> > >> > Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials. >> > >> > Stanley >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM >> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus >> > >> > This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to >> Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no >> longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. >> > >> > >> > Pauline >> > >> > >> > >> > On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote: >> >> Hi. >> >> >> >> I’m now ussing Eset SmartSecurity 9, and it’s a very big shit. The >> 8 version was more or less accessible but my it upgrades automatically >> to 9 version. After, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials (a very >> good antivirus) in Windows 7, but in Windows 10 the Windows Defender >> locks me some aplications like Utorrent, cause of that i changed to >> Eset. I’m also looking for a good antivirus for Windows. >> >> >> >> Cheers. >> >> >> >>> El 20 sept 2016, a las 13:53, Walmir Schultz via Groups.io >> <wsautodidata@... >> <mailto:wsautodidata@...>> escribió: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> It seems to me that the antivirus developers are the less >> accessible-minded people in the software industry. >> >>> >> >>> Until now I have not found an antivirus that can be used with >> NVDA. From totally inaccessible right from the installation to barely >> usable, none of the most famous free antivirus can be used without >> problems. >> >>> >> >>> I am using AVG because at least it can be automatically installed >> with Ninite, but NVDA cannot read the messages dialog, I cannot >> configure the antivirus and every time I install NVDA I need help from >> someone cause AVG "don't like" something and NVDA stops responding. >> >>> >> >>> What are your experiences in this matter? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > |
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Gene
I would suggest you look at articles written by
reputable computer advisors about the reasons people may want to upgrade or not
upgrade. Windows 10 is much more picky about drivers. Devices
that work in Windows 7 may not work if Windows 10 drivers are not
available. the new Windows 10 anniversary update has caused serious
problems for some users. Many users, I'm talking about sighted and blind
users, have been able to solve these problems, some can't. Some people
object to the additional information Windows 10- collects.
Media Center is gone in Windows 10. That is
another reason some people may not want to upgrade. Your statement about
not wanting to learn is faar too broad a generalization. While some people
may not be willing to learn the changes, there are many people who are
dissatisfied with Windows 10 for other reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
I have also see that many complain about the upgrade, however no one has present good argument for that. The mayor problem is that people are to laysy learning new thing. Den 2016-09-21 kl. 08:30, skrev Gene:
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I don't agree with you on this.
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Its true, some of us are happy where we are. However not all systems that were offered the update could take advantage of it. Not everyone has the most updated software and or hardware. Not to put a to sharp point it, the reason the update was hated was that microsoft! forced! the! upgrade! on! users!!!!!!! They forced this update on us and gave us little choice in the matter. Ofcause we hated it. They basically put spyware on our systems to install it and while it worked for a multi device setup and while those that couldn't afford it like some of my family took advantage of the free offer. There were those that were caught out. Those that had to replace their hardware and many law suits against microsoft for an update that they neither wanted or could handle or needed. As it stands, windows 10's goal of universal apps and a unified account is only good if you. 1. have or use an ms account all the time including but not limited to use another device like a tablet all the time and don't mind. or 2 want to jump in and get something new maybe with new hardware. I have seen situations where its been the best thing. However in some situations things still go with it. I know that after working on those units that use it when I return to my win7 based machines I find them easy to navigate etc. There are also disquieting rumors going on that win10 will eventually become inaccessible to everything excluding microsoft narator which it appears ms is bribing people to say doesn't suck. In reality, narator was crap before, and continues to be so, it was before and its worse now. Microsoft is unlikely to make it better no matter what guff it states. I am seriously going to have to get a legal old unit to stay legal or simple just not be legal at all if this continues. There is no need to change things. True the next high end hardware packages may not support 10 but we are talking about 6th and 7th generation hardware up. There is enough 5th and 4th generation stuff right now that I could care less what os I use. And while microsoft does accept feadback, the fact now the hype has gone as far as I care, windows 10 is just another slightly better version of windows 8 or vista or me, its junk. Not all of it but enough of it is and with the anniversery update it can be worse. Things like edge don't work out the box and with ms holding that close to their chest a lot of manufacturers just don't support it or care anymore. Windows as a service sounds nice so does a lot of the tech around it, in reality though some stuff like universal apps, the new intergrated account system, edge and a few other things are just not ready for primetime. And its worse for those of us with single machines, older hardware and or don't use a tablet. I am one of those, we have a new computer using 10 though the rest don't. I have family and friends using things to as far as they can go and enjoying it. I am happy that microsoft is no longer forcing users. On 21/09/2016 8:12 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote:
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I have also see that many complain about the upgrade, however no one has present good argument for that. The mayor problem is that people are to laysy learning new thing.
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Brian's Mail list account
In the end we are all individuals andit does depend on how you use your connection as to whether a particular solution is a good choice. as I and others have said many times. Often when a new threat comes along there has to be some who get clobbered by it before companies can build in a defence. its a bit like an arms race.
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However many scammers and crooks depend on the unwary and crafty disguising of phishing emails to get people to more or less infect themselves. Nobody can be 100 percent sure their machine is completely clean, indeed where do you draw the line are tracking cookies malware, are the silly back doors Microsoft use to spy on you malware? If you say yes, then perhaps you should not be using computers. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
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Gene
Are you stating a hypothetical
situation or something you know to be the case? Does she need a new
computer? If so, she may want to get a Windows 10 machine. But you
can get new computers that are not Windows 10 machines. You can still buy
Windows computers that are business machines that have Windows 7 on them.
And you can get refurbished machines from computers for the blind that have
Windows 7 on them. I don't know what Pauline's situation is. She
talked about upgrading to Windows 10. that kind of phrase is usually used
by someone who is considering upgrading an existing computer to Windows
10. But I don't know what her situation is nor what she has in mind.
I'm not advocating upgrading or not
upgrading. I'm simply saying that Microsoft has offered Windows 10 as a
free upgrade and hyped Windows 10. I've seen enough people who have
upgraded and had mild or more serious regrets to simply say that the decision
should be considered carefully. In terms of purchasing a new machine, the
person may want to consider her options. Consideration may produce a
different conclusion when purchasing a new machine but again, that may be
something the person wants to discuss as well.
Gene
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----- Gene! Let’s just say Pauline Smith desperately needed a new computer! Her previous computer decides to bite the dust. Then if she did get a new one. It will be windows ten. She would probably would need Windows defender that is like MSE. Now, weather she’d want windows ten or wants to update. She and others who purchase a new computer will have windows ten installed.
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nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to Windows 10? there are reasons to approach doing so with caution. I won't go into an in depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to upgrade. Depending on your answer, I may have more comments.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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Well one thing all users still on 7 should be happy about especially if you install optionals, an update was released today from microsoft which removes gwx and at least 8 associated updates for win10.
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Since updating today my performance has gone up and the hard drive seems to run quieter. Even though I had stopped gwx from working microsoft is finally leaving us users alone. In addition, even though they say that win7 is not the top of their game it has been recieving cumulitive updates as optional role ups. As well as performance updates for dot net among others as well as system file checker fixes to work with that update. My point is that while small win7 is still being enhanced. My major bief around 10 was all the hype round and I was right. Its a nice system to have but now most of the hype is gone we actually find that win10 is not the system that microsoft said it would be and in some cases its even worse. Give me a desktop any day. On 21/09/2016 2:02 p.m., Pauline Smith wrote:
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Gene! Let’s just say Pauline Smith desperately needed a new computer! Her previous computer decides to bite the dust. Then if she did get a new one. It will be windows ten. She would probably would need Windows defender that is like MSE. Now, weather she’d want windows ten or wants to update. She and others who purchase a new computer will have windows ten installed.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-20-16 8:29 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to Windows 10? there are reasons to approach doing so with caution. I won't go into an in depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to upgrade. Depending on your answer, I may have more comments.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
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Gene
Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to
Windows 10? there are reasons to approach doing so with caution. I
won't go into an in depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to
upgrade. Depending on your answer, I may have more comments.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
information, I will consider updating to Win 10 soon. I think I will get the MS Accessibility line to help me do this. Thanks, again for the Defender info. Pauline On 9/20/2016 10:52 PM, Arlene wrote: > Hi, that's what I just said. windows defender does work for ten. From what I heard it's more accessible with ten then it is for 7. Yes it works just like MSE from what I heard. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stanley Haupt > Sent: September-20-16 7:44 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus > > Hello Pauline: > > Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials. > > Stanley > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus > > This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. > > > Pauline > > > > On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I’m now ussing Eset SmartSecurity 9, and it’s a very big shit. The 8 version was more or less accessible but my it upgrades automatically to 9 version. After, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials (a very good antivirus) in Windows 7, but in Windows 10 the Windows Defender locks me some aplications like Utorrent, cause of that i changed to Eset. I’m also looking for a good antivirus for Windows. >> >> Cheers. >> >>> El 20 sept 2016, a las 13:53, Walmir Schultz via Groups.io <wsautodidata@...> escribió: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> It seems to me that the antivirus developers are the less accessible-minded people in the software industry. >>> >>> Until now I have not found an antivirus that can be used with NVDA. From totally inaccessible right from the installation to barely usable, none of the most famous free antivirus can be used without problems. >>> >>> I am using AVG because at least it can be automatically installed with Ninite, but NVDA cannot read the messages dialog, I cannot configure the antivirus and every time I install NVDA I need help from someone cause AVG "don't like" something and NVDA stops responding. >>> >>> What are your experiences in this matter? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Thank you all for letting me know about Windows Defender. With this information, I will consider updating to Win 10 soon. I think I will get the MS Accessibility line to help me do this.
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Thanks, again for the Defender info. Pauline On 9/20/2016 10:52 PM, Arlene wrote:
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Gene
It can't be more accessible. everything in
Windows Defender is accessible. It may be as accessible but it can't be
more.
Just about any time I see a statement prefaced with
"I heard" or a similar phrase, it's wrong or very misleading. Experience
has shown me that such comments are no more accurate than rumors. I'm not
trying to give anyone a hard time, but be very careful about sources you
trust. Comments that are casually passed around are very suspect.
Trust sources that have proven themselves repeatedly over time. Be very
suspicious of others.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stanley Haupt Sent: September-20-16 7:44 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus Hello Pauline: Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials. Stanley -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. Pauline On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote: > Hi. > > I’m now ussing Eset SmartSecurity 9, and it’s a very big shit. The 8 version was more or less accessible but my it upgrades automatically to 9 version. After, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials (a very good antivirus) in Windows 7, but in Windows 10 the Windows Defender locks me some aplications like Utorrent, cause of that i changed to Eset. I’m also looking for a good antivirus for Windows. > > Cheers. > >> El 20 sept 2016, a las 13:53, Walmir Schultz via Groups.io <wsautodidata@...> escribió: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> It seems to me that the antivirus developers are the less accessible-minded people in the software industry. >> >> Until now I have not found an antivirus that can be used with NVDA. From totally inaccessible right from the installation to barely usable, none of the most famous free antivirus can be used without problems. >> >> I am using AVG because at least it can be automatically installed with Ninite, but NVDA cannot read the messages dialog, I cannot configure the antivirus and every time I install NVDA I need help from someone cause AVG "don't like" something and NVDA stops responding. >> >> What are your experiences in this matter? >> >> >> >> >> > > > > |
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Hi, that's what I just said. windows defender does work for ten. From what I heard it's more accessible with ten then it is for 7. Yes it works just like MSE from what I heard.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stanley Haupt Sent: September-20-16 7:44 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus Hello Pauline: Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials. Stanley -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. Pauline On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote: Hi. |
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Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials. Stanley -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. Pauline On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote: Hi. |
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Arlene
Hi, if you end up with ten. You can use windows defender. It works like MSE
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith Sent: September-20-16 7:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. Pauline On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote: Hi. |
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Roger Stewart
Yes you can, but they now call it Windows Defender. I'm using Win 10 and I'm running Defender. It has anti virus, anti spyware, and anti malware so it is a complete suite. Can't say just how good it is, but I've never been bitten! Knock on wood! ;-)
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Roger On 9/20/2016 9:02 PM, Pauline Smith wrote:
This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think. |
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Pauline Smith <paulinesmithh@...>
This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think.
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Pauline On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote:
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