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How to Skip Ahead to Text With NVDA

bestuiexperience
 

Hello, I was wondering how a sighted user could skip ahead several paragraphs, and have the screen reader skip ahead and resume reading at a new location. For example, with JAWS, one can highlight the new text to skip ahead to, and the screen reader will resume reading at the highlighted location? I tried this with NVDA, and this doesn't seem possible. If this si not possible, what is the best way to skip text?
Gene
 

What program are you trying this with?  I can't get this to occur in Notepad but I can in Wordpad.  I'm using the simulated mouse available in NVDA but it shouldn't matter.
 
As far as what the best way is to do what you want, it isn't clear to me why you are using this method.  You can do this from the keyboard, moving the actual cursor, assuming you are using a program like a word processor that has a cursor. The command to move by paragraph in a word processor document is control down arrow.  If you want to move three paragraphs, control down arrow will do so.  If you want to start NVDA speaking three lines below where you have moved, down arrow three times, then use the read to end command.  It is NVDA key down arrow.  Assuming you are using default settings in NVDA, the insert is the NVDA key.  So the command is either insert and while holding it, press down arrow. 
Do you want to use NVDA as a document reader for a sighted person or why do you want to do this?  At this point, we don't know if we are giving good help because without knowing your purpose, we can't evaluate or attempt to determine if screen-readers are the best way to do what you want.
 
Gene 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 7:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to Skip Ahead to Text With NVDA

Hello, I was wondering how a sighted user could skip ahead several paragraphs, and have the screen reader skip ahead and resume reading at a new location. For example, with JAWS, one can highlight the new text to skip ahead to, and the screen reader will resume reading at the highlighted location? I tried this with NVDA, and this doesn't seem possible. If this si not possible, what is the best way to skip text?

bestuiexperience
 

I am a sighted software developer who needs to test various parts of web pages for accessibility. So for example, after I test paragraph #1 on the web page I may want to jump around and test paragraph #19 without having to traverse each paragraph in between. I am looking for the most efficient way to do this for web pages.
Gene
 

Use the screen-reader's search function to search for a distinctive word in the sentence or around the sentence you are looking for.  Or if there isn't a distinctive word, search for one that doesn't appear much on the page.  If you are using the default NVDA layout, the search command is insert control f.  It searches from your current location down the page.  If you need to repeat the search, the command is insert f3.  You can use either insert.
 
Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to Skip Ahead to Text With NVDA

I am a sighted software developer who needs to test various parts of web pages for accessibility. So for example, after I test paragraph #1 on the web page I may want to jump around and test paragraph #19 without having to traverse each paragraph in between. I am looking for the most efficient way to do this for web pages.
Travis Siegel
 

During your testing, just place headings at the start of your paragraphs, then you can use the navigation keys (h for headers) to move to the next header, which will allow you to jump where you like.  Obviously, you'd want to remove those headers when you finish testing, but that'd be the easiest way to accomplish your goals without having to change a whole lot.


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I am a sighted software developer who needs to test various parts of web pages for accessibility. So for example, after I test paragraph #1 on the web page I may want to jump around and test paragraph #19 without having to traverse each paragraph in between. I am looking for the most efficient way to do this for web pages.


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bestuiexperience
 

Insert Control F brought up a drop-down, but erroneously returned Not Found. Does that command only search within the current container type? I was searching for text within a table that had a role of "presentation". Could thta have been the problem? Then I repeated the same search from the location bar, and it brought up a different type of a find pop-up, nad this time found the text and highlighted, but did not do anything when I tried "Say All" (via Insert Down Arrow)
Gene
 

The command finds any text on the page.  I'm not sure if it always works properly, though it usually does.  Try the search twice if you think it didn't.  You can just use the repeat search command.  But where were you on the page?  Use control home to move to the top of the page before doing the first search.  I'm not sure if the virtual cursor shows you where you are so make sure with control home. 
 
I very seldom get a not found message if the text is there and if I am searching before its occurrence.  I'm using an old version of NVDA and sometimes the search stops on something above where it should be.  Just using the repeat search command takes you to the right place.  This may or may no longer happen, at times. 
 
When you issue the control insert f command, you should hear search dialog spoken, not anything else like search tool bar.  If you don't hear search dialog, press escape to close anything that might have opened then try the command again. 
 
Moving to the top of the page, for reasons I won't go into now, should prevent you from having different results when you issue the search command in terms of whether you hear search dialog or not. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to Skip Ahead to Text With NVDA

Insert Control F brought up a drop-down, but erroneously returned Not Found. Does that command only search within the current container type? I was searching for text within a table that had a role of "presentation". Could thta have been the problem? Then I repeated the same search from the location bar, and it brought up a different type of a find pop-up, nad this time found the text and highlighted, but did not do anything when I tried "Say All" (via Insert Down Arrow)

bestuiexperience
 

Hello, when using Control Home prior to issuing the command, that worked great for me. However, I have a colleague who uses a laptop keyboard for whom Control Insert F was not working. Is there a different sequence of keys to be used on a laptop keyboard?
Gene
 

By default, either insert key is used by NVDA as what is called the NVDA key.  The find command is defined as NVDA key control f.  Insert is the key you are using as the NVDA key.  The first thing we need to know is if the other person is using the insert key and if so, why it may not be working.  Is the person using a wireless keyboard?  That may have to do with the problem.  Also, what happens when the person issues the command insert n.  Does the NVDA menu come up?  If not, then either the insert key isn't working as it should when used with NVDA or the person isn't using the insert key.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to Skip Ahead to Text With NVDA

Hello, when using Control Home prior to issuing the command, that worked great for me. However, I have a colleague who uses a laptop keyboard for whom Control Insert F was not working. Is there a different sequence of keys to be used on a laptop keyboard?

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