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Don H

Is there any particular settings to make Jarte work weil with NVDA?

Dave <dlh007@...>

#51102

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.  

Grumpy Dave

Andy

#51107

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.  Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only needs to be done once.

Andy

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave

Sarah k Alawami

#51108

No, just launch it. It will detect a screen reader and do wht ever it
needs to do.
Take care

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On 27 Nov 2018, at 16:26, Don H wrote:
Is there any particular settings to make Jarte work weil with NVDA?

Rosemarie Chavarria

#51109

Yes, there is a screen reader mode in the free version of jarte.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to adjust
anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on after
the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily save
and Read files in a later MS Word Format.  

Grumpy Dave

Sam Bushman

#51112

When screen reader mode is on pressing the nvda-t keys will tell you it's
on.
If it doesn't say it is on you need to turn it on. Can't remember how but
the manual for jate will tell you.
Thanks,
Sam

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 7:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to adjust
anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on after
the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily save
and Read files in a later MS Word Format.  

Grumpy Dave

Sarah k Alawami

#51116

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then  ran it,and
screen reader  mode was enabled. This was  as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

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On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:
To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.

Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only
needs to be done once.
Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" dlh007@...
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte
I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.
There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.
Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.
Grumpy Dave

Rosemarie Chavarria

#51119

I didn't have to do that either. When I opened jarte, it was already in
screen reader mode.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then  ran it,and
screen reader  mode was enabled. This was  as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the 
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte 
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only 
needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to 
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on 
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily 
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave

Dejan Ristic

#51135

Hi,

If I remember well, the screen reader mode activation is present in Jaws, which I used to switch on and off while using Jarte. As to NVDA, I do not think that such an option is built into it. When I installed Jarte for the first time when NVDA was running, I did nothing to set jarte to work with NVDA. The only thing NVDA does not read, is tables in Jarte as it does in Word and/or the browsers.

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On 28/11/2018 06:34, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I didn't have to do that either. When I opened jarte, it was already in
screen reader mode.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then  ran it,and
screen reader  mode was enabled. This was  as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only
needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte


I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave

Gene

#51138

I've never heard of the Notepad procedure and, unless something has changed with new versions of JARTE, it will detect the screen-reader. I seldom use it, but I believe it announces that it is in screen-reader mode when it opens if it detects a screen-reader.

Also, you can't save a Word document in the dox format, but you can open dox files if you have the Microsoft compatibility pack installed.

If you try to open a dox document without the compatibility pack installed, an information page will come up telling you to get the pack and a link to the page for the pack is given.

Gene

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From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:47 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then ran it,and
screen reader mode was enabled. This was as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

> To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
> words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
> Then run jarte and copy this into an open document. Then close Jarte
> and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode. This only
> needs to be done once.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte
>
>
>> I use the Purchased edition of Jarte', and I don't believe I had to
>> adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.
>>
>> There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
>> after the second running of jarte'.
>>
>> Jarte' is a great small Word Processor. I only wish we could easily
>> save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.
>>
>> Grumpy Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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#51143

Well it works for me if you use the suggested screenreader settings. Not tried much else.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte


Is there any particular settings to make Jarte work weil with NVDA?

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#51144

I've never had to do that.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy" <wq6r@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.  Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave

Brian's Mail list account

#51145

I was not aware that wordpad which is what its based around supported tables, indeed I often use it to open word files containing tables so I can actually read them as normal text.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

Hi,

If I remember well, the screen reader mode activation is present in Jaws, which I used to switch on and off while using Jarte. As to NVDA, I do not think that such an option is built into it. When I installed Jarte for the first time when NVDA was running, I did nothing to set jarte to work with NVDA. The only thing NVDA does not read, is tables in Jarte as it does in Word and/or the browsers.

On 28/11/2018 06:34, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I didn't have to do that either. When I opened jarte, it was already in
screen reader mode.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then  ran it,and
screen reader  mode was enabled. This was  as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only
needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave

Brian's Mail list account

#51147

I do not believe Microsoft support the pack any more as 2007 office is end of life now.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I've never heard of the Notepad procedure and, unless something has changed with new versions of JARTE, it will detect the screen-reader.  I seldom use it, but I believe it announces that it is in screen-reader mode when it opens if it detects a screen-reader.

Also, you can't save a Word document in the dox format, but you can open dox files if you have the Microsoft compatibility pack installed.

If you try to open a dox document without the compatibility pack installed, an information page will come up telling you to get the pack and a link to the page for the pack is given.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then  ran it,and
screen reader  mode was enabled. This was  as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
Then run jarte and copy this into an open document.  Then close Jarte
and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode.  This only
needs to be done once.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I use the Purchased edition of Jarte',  and I don't believe I had to
adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.

There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
after the second running of jarte'.

Jarte' is a great small Word Processor.  I only wish we could easily
save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.

Grumpy Dave

Rosemarie Chavarria

#51159

Hi, Gene,

That's correct. Jarte does announce screen reader mode when you open it.

Rosemarie

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

Also, you can't save a Word document in the dox format, but you can open dox files if you have the Microsoft compatibility pack installed.

If you try to open a dox document without the compatibility pack installed, an information page will come up telling you to get the pack and a link to the page for the pack is given.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami

Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:47 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

Gene

#51164

The compatibility pack has nothing to do with the version of Windows being run. it allows some other programs, including old Word versions, to be able to open and read dox files.

Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:36 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I do not believe Microsoft support the pack any more as 2007 office is end
of life now.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I've never heard of the Notepad procedure and, unless something has changed
with new versions of JARTE, it will detect the screen-reader. I seldom use
it, but I believe it announces that it is in screen-reader mode when it
opens if it detects a screen-reader.

Also, you can't save a Word document in the dox format, but you can open dox
files if you have the Microsoft compatibility pack installed.

If you try to open a dox document without the compatibility pack installed,
an information page will come up telling you to get the pack and a link to
the page for the pack is given.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 10:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

I didn't have to do that. I just installed jarte free, then ran it,and
screen reader mode was enabled. This was as of January when I had to
reinstall windows.

On 27 Nov 2018, at 18:51, Andy wrote:

> To invoke screen reader mode in jarte, open Notepad and write the
> words enable screen reader mode, then copy this to the clipboard.
> Then run jarte and copy this into an open document. Then close Jarte
> and reopen it, and jarte will be in screen reader mode. This only
> needs to be done once.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dlh007@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte
>
>
>> I use the Purchased edition of Jarte', and I don't believe I had to
>> adjust anything inside of Jarte' or NVDA.
>>
>> There may be a Screen Reader mode, but I think it switches itself on
>> after the second running of jarte'.
>>
>> Jarte' is a great small Word Processor. I only wish we could easily
>> save and Read files in a later MS Word Format.
>>
>> Grumpy Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Gene

#51165

I see that you were referring to Office 2007. But I doubt that whether Office 2007 is supported would determine whether the pack is still available because other programs use it as well. I don't recall anything specifying that it was specifically for Word 2007 when I read about it a long time ago. Whatever the case, if people want it and Microsoft no longer makes it available, I or others can make it available. I saved a compatibility pack file at some point just in case I might ever want it.

Gene

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:36 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

Andy

#51169

From another list.

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-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-bounces@...] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@...
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program
easy to set up with accessibility. Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the
interface?

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

Rosemarie Chavarria

#51171

Hi, Andy,

When I installed jarte and opened it, NVDA was detected so when I opened jarte, it was already in screen reader mode.

Rosemarie

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 12:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

From another list.

Hello;
Don't forget, when you install jarte,
You need to have, the words,
"enable Screen Reader Mode" copied to the windows clip board.
Now when you open the jarte program, it will be set to the screen reader
mode.

Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-bounces@...] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@...
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Not a Windows 10 problem. I have the latest Windows 10 version, including
that creator thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-bounces@...] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@...
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Now that is very strange, because it sure isn't easy to get this program
easy to set up with accessibility. Unless, Windows 10 is fighting the
interface?

lucky1inct@...
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

Gene

#51173

That's incorrect, as has been confirmed by many users here. I have no idea where that and similar ideas got started. there was a variant of it presented here yesterday.

Be skeptical of any such statements about any program. Screen-readers display a flag, or maybe Windows does, when they are running and programs can be designed to automatically detect that a screen-reader is running.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:29 PM

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Jarte

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