question about nvda add ons


molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn’t that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.


Jackie
 

Not really, Molly. Though there are some similarities, Jaws scripting
is pretty much basically confined to an existing application, while
NVDA addons can creat entirely new 1's, for example, the remote addon.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I
realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn't that similar
to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.




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Molly,

           I'll have to disagree with Jackie, at least in part.  While exactly what can be done in NVDA add-ons as far as scope is different than JAWS scripts, the basic concept is precisely the same.  There exist lots of unofficial NVDA extensions developed by individuals that are related to making specific applications accessible.  Even a good number of the official add-ons at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html are directly related to a single application.

           Some of the scope differences have come about secondary to design philosophy for NVDA that was relatively "set in stone" from the outset and where there are core functions, which are part of NVDA itself, and non-core functions, which are handled by add-ons.  NVDA Remote could easily have been part of NVDA core functionality (as could a number of other add-ons) but what those add-ons do was not classed as a core function of the screen reader, so those functions are handled by add-ons.

            There has been discussion of potentially making certain functions currently served by add-ons core functionality of NVDA, but I cannot for the life of me remember which ones right now.  Those discussions come and go on this group and probably occur a lot more frequently and intensely on NVDA's github, the actual developers hang-out (for lack of a better term).

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Arlene
 

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I
realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn't that similar
to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.





molly the blind tech lover
 

interesting. good to know.


On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 2:27 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@... wrote:
Molly,

           I'll have to disagree with Jackie, at least in part.  While exactly what can be done in NVDA add-ons as far as scope is different than JAWS scripts, the basic concept is precisely the same.  There exist lots of unofficial NVDA extensions developed by individuals that are related to making specific applications accessible.  Even a good number of the official add-ons at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html are directly related to a single application.

           Some of the scope differences have come about secondary to design philosophy for NVDA that was relatively "set in stone" from the outset and where there are core functions, which are part of NVDA itself, and non-core functions, which are handled by add-ons.  NVDA Remote could easily have been part of NVDA core functionality (as could a number of other add-ons) but what those add-ons do was not classed as a core function of the screen reader, so those functions are handled by add-ons.

            There has been discussion of potentially making certain functions currently served by add-ons core functionality of NVDA, but I cannot for the life of me remember which ones right now.  Those discussions come and go on this group and probably occur a lot more frequently and intensely on NVDA's github, the actual developers hang-out (for lack of a better term).

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molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet goes out... again.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA.
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.





Jackie
 

Brian v. I could've been clearer in my explanation, perhaps. Jaws
scripts, for the most part, are triggered by keystrokes in an
application that are tied to the jaws script. So, for example, using
Notepad, I could (& have) written a Jaws script such that the
keystroke alt down arrow read the contents of the column where the
cursor was. But the scripts are tied to a specific application, in
this case Notepad. While NVDA's addon facilities can be used
similarly, they can also be used very differently, ie, creating
applications that didn't exist. The remote NVDA addon as well as some
of Joseph Lee's apps like the addon updater & his Win 10 essentials
are examples of this latter, broader, more powerful concept. The basic
reason is simply that the Jaws scripting language doesn't have the
facilities of Python. So yes--the 2 are similar in that they are both
intended to create increased accessibility, but they differ
considerably in the power of the tools used & therefore what can be
accomplished w/them.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my
Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet
goes out... again.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA.
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.










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hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


the following link may help you on questions that jaws users may ask when they take nvda for a test drive etc. the following link should help you you can jump down to the area about scripts or known as add ons with nvda but the rest of it you should find interesting.


The link to this page is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

hopefully it helps you.


gene nz


On 14/12/2018 9:15 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet goes out... again. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws 
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. 
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.











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hi gene.
thanks so much for your link.
it helped me a lot for better understanding nvda and its difference
and similarities with jaws.
thanks extremely for your help, God bless you!

On 12/14/18, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


the following link may help you on questions that jaws users may ask when
they take nvda for a test drive etc. the following link should help you you
can jump down to the area about scripts or known as add ons with nvda but
the rest of it you should find interesting.


The link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

hopefully it helps you.


gene nz


On 14/12/2018 9:15 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Hey guys? I keep trying to reply to your responses to my question, but my
Internet keeps going out. Darn Comcast. I'm sending this before the Internet
goes out... again.

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<nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about nvda add ons

Yes Molly, NVDA addons are like Jaws scripts. You add them as you see fit.

On 12/13/18, molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@gmail.com><mailto:brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:


Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws
scripts? I realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA.
Isn't that similar to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.
















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http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
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App modules can be seen as scripts foor that program, but add ons are more than that, though they may indeed change behaviour in just one application.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] question about nvda add ons


Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I
realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn't that similar
to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.




 

True, I think of addons in their simplest form if only containing modules and plugins as being packaged archives, but I guess in their more advanced state since they can contain everything from scripts to fully portable apps, synths and drivers etc, as extentions for nvda that can do a lot of things, in the past since they can take programs bad things but mostly good if secured right.

Since nvda is just a reader and such extentions like in google chrome would be apt.

But if nvda was its own os, then nvda addons would be what the apple bundles are to macs or those packaged executable installers you get in windows are.

So installers for apps.

Apps can be scripts for apps, drivers, synths, apps in their own right etc.

Not saying that it would happen but to be honest, there is not much idea wize from making nvda to its own os.

maybe a linux distro, technically there is more to that than meets the eye.

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App modules can be seen as scripts foor that program, but  add ons are more than that, though they may indeed change behaviour in just one application.

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] question about nvda add ons


Hey guys, Molly here again.

I was just wondering, is an NVDA add on the equivalent of jaws scripts? I
realize that add ons enhance the functionality of NVDA. Isn't that similar
to Jaws scripting? Or am I way off base here?

Thanks.