Tifkitecnia Demos


Earle Zwicker
 

Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.

Earle


Rui Fontes
 

By now, we have no demo version.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 20:59 de 13/12/2018, Earle Zwicker escreveu:

Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.
Earle


Gene
 

It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date. 
 
Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product manufacturer?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I
went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a
bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message
that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no
demo available.

Earle



Rui Fontes
 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...
So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers regularly...

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.
Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product manufacturer?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I
went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a
bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message
that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no
demo available.
Earle


Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Hay I was wondering if nathin an the newest voices are in this update

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...

So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain

number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers

regularly...

 

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

 

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

> It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used

> years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a

> certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver

> comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't

> demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or

> something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it

> when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.

> Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product

> manufacturer?

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@...>

> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

>

> Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I

> went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a

> bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message

> that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no

> demo available.

>

> Earle

>

>

>

 

 

 


Lino Morales
 

No they are not and as Nimer Jabar has stated I wouldn’t trust this company period!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:38:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
 

Hay I was wondering if nathin an the newest voices are in this update

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...

So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain

number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers

regularly...

 

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

 

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

> It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used

> years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a

> certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver

> comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't

> demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or

> something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it

> when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.

> Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product

> manufacturer?

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@...>

> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

>

> Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I

> went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a

> bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message

> that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no

> demo available.

>

> Earle

>

>

>

 

 

 


Gene
 

That's good.  People expect a demo and I would think not having one would erode purchases.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...
So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain
number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers
regularly...

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:
> It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used
> years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a
> certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver
> comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't
> demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or
> something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it
> when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.
> Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product
> manufacturer?
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
>
> Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I
> went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a
> bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message
> that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no
> demo available.
>
> Earle
>
>
>



Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

I'm afrade Nuance shaol doo it. I'm sorry.

Lino Morales wrote:

No they are not and as Nimer Jabar has stated I wouldn’t trust this company period!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:38:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
 

Hay I was wondering if nathin an the newest voices are in this update

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...

So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain

number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers

regularly...

 

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

 

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

> It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used

> years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a

> certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver

> comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't

> demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or

> something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it

> when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.

> Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product

> manufacturer?

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@...>

> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

>

> Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I

> went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a

> bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message

> that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no

> demo available.

>

> Earle

>

>

>

 

 

 



Richard Wells
 

I have to say that I just purchased both old and new Vocalizer Nuance products from Tiflotecnia and they work well with NVDA. Customer service was excellent and all my questions were answered promptly. These kinds of one-sided discussions make me wonder why anybody tries to do business at all on the Internet. Thanks Rui for all you do!

On 12/13/2018 3:48 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

No they are not and as Nimer Jabar has stated I wouldn’t trust this company period!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:38:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
 

Hay I was wondering if nathin an the newest voices are in this update

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

 

At the begin, Nuance did not allow us to make a demo license...

So, we have put the scheme of the driiver be valid during a certain

number of days... But, that implies that we have to release new drivers

regularly...

 

In the last two years, or so, we decided to do not have demos...

 

In the next version we will have again a 15 days demo automatically...

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

Às 21:23 de 13/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

> It's unfortunate that the same absurd demo system is still being used

> years after I encountered it.  A demo is released that won't run after a

> certain date.  Whether a new demo is released before an updated driver

> comes out is something I don't know.  But this is absurd.  Why can't

> demos time out after a certain number of days or hours of use or

> something that makes the demo available in a way that people can use it

> when they want to consider the program, not only before a certain date.

> Can the company change this or is this something imposed by the product

> manufacturer?

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> *From:* Earle Zwicker <mailto:rowdyamerican@...>

> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

>

> Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I

> went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a

> bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message

> that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no

> demo available.

>

> Earle

>

>

>

 

 

 


prem.translator@...
 

Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is solved. 


Mohith BP
 

Is there a audio / video of the voices?

On 12/14/18, prem.translator@gmail.com <prem.translator@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
solved.




Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

OK I'll ask.
Why not, who would buy with no chance to test it, or are you doing a refund on uninstall system?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos


By now, we have no demo version.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 20:59 de 13/12/2018, Earle Zwicker escreveu:
Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.

Earle




Rui Fontes
 

Sure! We refund the payment during the first 15 days.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 10:00 de 14/12/2018, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

OK I'll ask.
Why not, who would buy with no chance to test it, or are you doing a refund on uninstall system?
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

By now, we have no demo version.

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 20:59 de 13/12/2018, Earle Zwicker escreveu:
Just wondering if Tiflotecnia offers demos of their Vocalizer add-on? I went to their download page and downloaded the latest driver and a bundle of English compact voices. I installed them and got a message that the demo was expired. Am I doing something wrong, or is there no demo available.

Earle





Rui Fontes
 

No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:

Is there a audio / video of the voices?
On 12/14/18, prem.translator@gmail.com <prem.translator@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
solved.



.


Nimer Jaber
 

No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Richard Wells
 

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.


Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and how does licensing work?


Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at code factory for NVDA eloquence.

On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Nimer Jaber

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If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.


Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and how does licensing work?


Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at code factory for NVDA eloquence.

On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

Well that's frustrating. $115 USD is quite a bit of money to shell out for just vocalizer voices. I wouldn't use them enough to pay that price.


thanks for the link.

On 2018-12-14 3:13 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.


Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and how does licensing work?


Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at code factory for NVDA eloquence.

On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





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Nimer Jaber
 

So long as you can prepare in advance, or you remember to deactivate your license, then you are right, activation and deactivation works well enough. I wonder how many mainstream products force a user to activate and deactivate a product though. Hell, Windows ties activation to your e-mail address. It doesn't make you deactivate your computer if you format your drive, lose your information, or whatever. Anyway, each to their own. I've stated my opinion on this product, and if you feel that you have gotten value out of their product, then there you go.

Thanks.


On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Richard Wells <richwels@...> wrote:

If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here: https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.


Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and how does licensing work?


Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at code factory for NVDA eloquence.

On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory. Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back in your available activations to be used again. I bought my original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased this product a while back and I regret it very much. The licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are supported even still after being promised an update for years no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of product development cycles and such, always looking for the value in a product or service. After so many broken promises and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@... <prem.translator@...> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent. The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> .
>





--
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Nimer Jaber

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some information about the email you have just read and all
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