Reading emoticons and Kazakh language for eSpeak NG


Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...>
 

Hello.
Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are written in
Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
Everything was read correctly.
And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
Thanks!
Sincerely, Adil.


Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Adil,

Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a page that has one etc?

When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm, do you mean 2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...> wrote:
Hello.
Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are written in
Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
Everything was read correctly.
And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
Thanks!
Sincerely, Adil.





--
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Training and Support Manager

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Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...>
 

Hi!
Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be fixed.
In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.

2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>:

Hi Adil,

Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a page that
has one etc?

When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm, do you mean
2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello.
Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are written in
Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
Everything was read correctly.
And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
Thanks!
Sincerely, Adil.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
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Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...>
 

I also noticed that some emoticons are pronounced only when if you
move the cursor arrows on it, as if you want to read the previous or
the next character. And if you read, using the up and down arrows,
they are not pronounced, only the word "Graphics" is pronounced.

2018-12-18 15:07 GMT+03:00, Adil Uralbaev via Groups.Io
<adiluralbaev=gmail.com@groups.io>:

Hi!
Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be fixed.
In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.

2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>:
Hi Adil,

Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a page that
has one etc?

When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm, do you
mean
2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello.
Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are written in
Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
Everything was read correctly.
And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
Thanks!
Sincerely, Adil.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess






Quentin Christensen
 

Could you please give me the address of a page - there are different ways of representing things which end up looking the same, and I want to make sure I'm comparing the same thing as you.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 1:18 AM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...> wrote:
I also noticed that some emoticons are pronounced only when if you
move the cursor arrows on it, as if you want to read the previous or
the next character. And if you read, using the up and down arrows,
they are not pronounced, only the word "Graphics" is pronounced.

2018-12-18 15:07 GMT+03:00, Adil Uralbaev via Groups.Io
<adiluralbaev=gmail.com@groups.io>:
> Hi!
> Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
> corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be fixed.
> In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.
>
> 2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:
>> Hi Adil,
>>
>> Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a page that
>> has one etc?
>>
>> When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm, do you
>> mean
>> 2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are written in
>>> Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
>>> Everything was read correctly.
>>> And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
>>> eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
>>> Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely, Adil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


ChrisLeo
 

Hi,
probabily you are using "None" as level for Punctuation/symbol pronunciation.
Raise the level to "Some" or more with nvda+P then try to read emoji.


Make sure that the checkbox "Include Unicode Consortium data" in the voice setting dialog is enabled.

obviously, the emoji dictionaries from espeak.ng aren't available on NVDA 2018.4.

Cheers,

Chris.

In reply to Quentin Christensen, 18/12/2018 22:44:

Could you please give me the address of a page - there are different
ways of representing things which end up looking the same, and I want to
make sure I'm comparing the same thing as you.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 1:18 AM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@gmail.com
<mailto:adiluralbaev@gmail.com>> wrote:

I also noticed that some emoticons are pronounced only when if you
move the cursor arrows on it, as if you want to read the previous or
the next character. And if you read, using the up and down arrows,
they are not pronounced, only the word "Graphics" is pronounced.

2018-12-18 15:07 GMT+03:00, Adil Uralbaev via Groups.Io
<adiluralbaev=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>>:
> Hi!
> Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
> corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be fixed.
> In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.
>
> 2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>>:
>> Hi Adil,
>>
>> Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a
page that
>> has one etc?
>>
>> When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm,
do you
>> mean
>> 2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev
<adiluralbaev@gmail.com <mailto:adiluralbaev@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are
written in
>>> Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
>>> Everything was read correctly.
>>> And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language for
>>> eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
>>> Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely, Adil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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Twitter: @NVAccess


Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@...>
 

Hello. I managed to solve the problem. In the NVDA menu, a submenu of
Preferences, there is the item "Punctuation/symbol pronunciation...".
This dialog box has all the smilies. You need to select the desired
emoticon and the "Nothing" level and save the changes. In this case,
the emoticon will be read correctly. This should be done for each
emoticon, which, unfortunately, is not very convenient. And you need
to make changes for each language. I hope these problems will be fixed
in the next updates.
Thanks for attention.

2018-12-19 14:09 GMT+03:00, ChrisLeo <llajta@gmx.us>:

Hi,
probabily you are using "None" as level for Punctuation/symbol
pronunciation.
Raise the level to "Some" or more with nvda+P then try to read emoji.


Make sure that the checkbox "Include Unicode Consortium data" in the
voice setting dialog is enabled.

obviously, the emoji dictionaries from espeak.ng aren't available on
NVDA 2018.4.

Cheers,

Chris.

In reply to Quentin Christensen, 18/12/2018 22:44:
Could you please give me the address of a page - there are different
ways of representing things which end up looking the same, and I want to
make sure I'm comparing the same thing as you.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 1:18 AM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@gmail.com
<mailto:adiluralbaev@gmail.com>> wrote:

I also noticed that some emoticons are pronounced only when if you
move the cursor arrows on it, as if you want to read the previous or
the next character. And if you read, using the up and down arrows,
they are not pronounced, only the word "Graphics" is pronounced.

2018-12-18 15:07 GMT+03:00, Adil Uralbaev via Groups.Io
<adiluralbaev=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>>:
> Hi!
> Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
> corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be
fixed.
> In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.
>
> 2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>>:
>> Hi Adil,
>>
>> Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a
page that
>> has one etc?
>>
>> When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm,
do you
>> mean
>> 2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev
<adiluralbaev@gmail.com <mailto:adiluralbaev@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are
written in
>>> Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
>>> Everything was read correctly.
>>> And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language
for
>>> eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
>>> Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely, Adil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



ChrisLeo
 

Hello,
I think that isn't a problem.
In voice setting dialog by default the level of symbols is "Some", and the level for each emoji in the dialog Punctuation/symbol pronunciation is "Some".
You can customize these levels as you prefer, but by default NVDA reads emojis as expected.


Chris.

In reply to Adil Uralbaev, 19/12/2018 13:16:

Hello. I managed to solve the problem. In the NVDA menu, a submenu of
Preferences, there is the item "Punctuation/symbol pronunciation...".
This dialog box has all the smilies. You need to select the desired
emoticon and the "Nothing" level and save the changes. In this case,
the emoticon will be read correctly. This should be done for each
emoticon, which, unfortunately, is not very convenient. And you need
to make changes for each language. I hope these problems will be fixed
in the next updates.
Thanks for attention.

2018-12-19 14:09 GMT+03:00, ChrisLeo <llajta@gmx.us>:
Hi,
probabily you are using "None" as level for Punctuation/symbol
pronunciation.
Raise the level to "Some" or more with nvda+P then try to read emoji.


Make sure that the checkbox "Include Unicode Consortium data" in the
voice setting dialog is enabled.

obviously, the emoji dictionaries from espeak.ng aren't available on
NVDA 2018.4.

Cheers,

Chris.

In reply to Quentin Christensen, 18/12/2018 22:44:
Could you please give me the address of a page - there are different
ways of representing things which end up looking the same, and I want to
make sure I'm comparing the same thing as you.


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 1:18 AM Adil Uralbaev <adiluralbaev@gmail.com
<mailto:adiluralbaev@gmail.com>> wrote:

I also noticed that some emoticons are pronounced only when if you
move the cursor arrows on it, as if you want to read the previous or
the next character. And if you read, using the up and down arrows,
they are not pronounced, only the word "Graphics" is pronounced.

2018-12-18 15:07 GMT+03:00, Adil Uralbaev via Groups.Io
<adiluralbaev=gmail.com@groups.io <mailto:gmail.com@groups.io>>:
> Hi!
> Smileys are not pronounced on sites. I noticed this when I
> corresponded on social networks. I would like this bug to be
fixed.
> In the version of NVDA 2018.3.2 everything worked.
>
> 2018-12-18 14:45 GMT+03:00, Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>>:
>> Hi Adil,
>>
>> Could you give an example of an emoji that isn't working, or a
page that
>> has one etc?
>>
>> When you say in the previous version, could you please confirm,
do you
>> mean
>> 2018.3.2, or one of the alpha / beta / rc releases?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:13 PM Adil Uralbaev
<adiluralbaev@gmail.com <mailto:adiluralbaev@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> Speech synthesizers do not pronounce some smilies that are
written in
>>> Unicode. In the previous version there were no such problems.
>>> Everything was read correctly.
>>> And I want to thank you for the support of the Kazakh language
for
>>> eSpeak NG. I hope you will continue to work on this language.
>>> Waiting for fixis in reading emoticons.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sincerely, Adil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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